What makes a bike"custom"???

Right bear with me on this please. Been looking around for a few weeks at custom bike builders as I want a one off steel frame with forks. One or two of the builders I have spoken to are true ground up builders so you know the frames are one offs and I am fairly happy with the thought of going with one of the builders I have spoken to but lets just say my heart is not racing just yet plus they are not cheap.
I have spoken to another well known builder who say their bikes are "custom" and I love their bikes but I have done some research that suggests their bikes are not so much custom but are "built to order". Having spent some time doing my homework this tends to mean off the peg sized frames that are built for you when you pay a deposit with a colour scheme of your choice. Surely this is not the same thing right?
I have spoken to another well known builder who say their bikes are "custom" and I love their bikes but I have done some research that suggests their bikes are not so much custom but are "built to order". Having spent some time doing my homework this tends to mean off the peg sized frames that are built for you when you pay a deposit with a colour scheme of your choice. Surely this is not the same thing right?
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Anything else and its as you state, of the peg
I've ordered a custom Ti from Justin last week too - but in a bit of a different direction. Mine will be a bit more of a racy version of an audax frame with a very short head tube to allow me to keep my current position, but with clearance for 28mm tyres and full mudguards (with 57mm drop calipers), rear rack mounts, and a nice relaxing head tube angle.
As said, prices are great and Justin was brilliant when we specced my new frame up. Cant wait to get it now 8)
Might see you around i live in chester and ride a round the wirral.
Hahaha oh no - two custom Burls titaniums in the same area!! So much for going for the "exclusive" option! Sorry but you're going to have to cancel your order
I'm up in Hoylake myself Limoneboy - but generally ride to the Eureka Cafe to start most rides on Sundays with Port Sunlight Wheelers. I'll keep my eyes peeled in future for another Burls Ti 8)