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POAH wrote:lawman wrote:This is how you make a single pivot...
I would very much like a go on that!
not sure if you are joking but that's a 4 bar linkage.
He knew full well when he said "this is how you make a single pivot" that someone would question it, and he would get to explain why techincally it is a single pivot.0 -
I must be awesomely awesome.POAH wrote:cooldad wrote:One day I will buy an Orange just to annoy people by posting how awesome it is.
TBF you've annoyed people without having to buy an orange
I don't do smileys.
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lawman wrote:
See now. Unless that works loads better than a DW link or 4 bar or whatever I don't see the point. One of the reasons I like the idea of Orange bikes (I don't have one, and I've never ridden one mind) is there really is only one pivot to tighten, keep clean and replace. It's one of the main reasons I decided on the Rockrider for my first toe dip into the world of full suss, it's gone pretty well. I'm unsure what to go for next time with me being so poor, quite possibly going back to a hard tail.Saracen Tenet 3 - 2015 - Dead - Replaced with a Hack Frame
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My Nukeproof has a linkage driven single pivot and it is very good. You get some of the characteristics of a normal single pivot but with a more controlled leverage rates.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350
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supersonic wrote:Yeah, I'd put the shock there too...
Holy gouged shock shaft. WTF!0 -
lawman wrote:
its still a 4 bar linkage design unlike the orange 5 single pivot. There are 4 bearings in meta not one so its not the same design even though the wheel arc moves like the mono pivot design of the orange. Its not a horst link 4 bar like my ghost is which I suspect that's what you thought I ment
The horst link, the 4 bar linkage (faux bar) and the single pivot are different designs and have different pros and cons0 -
Kowalski675 wrote:swod1 wrote:I did see a vid on youtube with motorbike rider guy martin and he seemed to be impressed with them on a visit to the factory.
He likes Victorian engineering...
Maybe he does like Victorian engineering,but the guy can ride the wheels off a bike0 -
He probably likes them as he is pretty much sponsored by themeric draven wrote:Kowalski675 wrote:swod1 wrote:I did see a vid on youtube with motorbike rider guy martin and he seemed to be impressed with them on a visit to the factory.
He likes Victorian engineering...
Maybe he does like Victorian engineering,but the guy can ride the wheels off a bike0 -
4 bar and faux bar are very different things. Faux bar is the linkage driven single pivot as you see there. 4 bar is the same as horst link, FSR, etc. multi pivot linkage.POAH wrote:lawman wrote:
its still a 4 bar linkage design unlike the orange 5 single pivot. There are 4 bearings in meta not one so its not the same design even though the wheel arc moves like the mono pivot design of the orange. Its not a horst link 4 bar like my ghost is which I suspect that's what you thought I ment
The horst link, the 4 bar linkage (faux bar) and the single pivot are different designs and have different pros and cons0 -
ilovedirt wrote:
4 bar and faux bar are very different things. Faux bar is the linkage driven single pivot as you see there. 4 bar is the same as horst link, FSR, etc. multi pivot linkage.POAH wrote:lawman wrote:
its still a 4 bar linkage design unlike the orange 5 single pivot. There are 4 bearings in meta not one so its not the same design even though the wheel arc moves like the mono pivot design of the orange. Its not a horst link 4 bar like my ghost is which I suspect that's what you thought I ment
The horst link, the 4 bar linkage (faux bar) and the single pivot are different designs and have different pros and cons
What ilovedirt said ^
WMB did a good article a few years back explaining each design and the pros/cons of each. Personally I'm a big DW/VPP fan, never really got on with Horst link bikes but ridden a few faux bars I like, Cove Hustler, various Rocky Mountains etc0 -
I've never ridden a 4 bar or faux bar properly, but the DW link bikes I've owned (a sunday and my reign x) have ridden incredibly.0
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Which suspension design category does mine fit into (Boardman Team FS)? Just curious.0
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Where is the pivot?
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four barKowalski675 wrote:Which suspension design category does mine fit into (Boardman Team FS)? Just curious.0 -
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The Northern Monkey wrote:
He probably likes them as he is pretty much sponsored by themeric draven wrote:Kowalski675 wrote:swod1 wrote:I did see a vid on youtube with motorbike rider guy martin and he seemed to be impressed with them on a visit to the factory.
He likes Victorian engineering...
Maybe he does like Victorian engineering,but the guy can ride the wheels off a bike
Sorry,I wasn't on about Guy Martin riding his Orange ,I was talking about his ability to ride a motorbike at insane speeds0 -
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RockmonkeySC wrote:He isn't slow on a mountain bike either.
He looked worse than me when he was on this is peaty, and that's saying something. Autistic people can have balance issues though Saracen Tenet 3 - 2015 - Dead - Replaced with a Hack Frame
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RockmonkeySC wrote:Everyone looks rubbish next to Steve Peat
Fair point, my claim to fame, my dad stole his sweets off the GT stand at the bike show in 97ish.Saracen Tenet 3 - 2015 - Dead - Replaced with a Hack Frame
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eric draven wrote:Sorry,I wasn't on about Guy Martin riding his Orange ,I was talking about his ability to ride a motorbike at insane speeds
Indeed he can. Never quite fast enough to get that TT win though.0 -
Kowalski675 wrote:eric draven wrote:Sorry,I wasn't on about Guy Martin riding his Orange ,I was talking about his ability to ride a motorbike at insane speeds
Indeed he can. Never quite fast enough to get that TT win though.
I don't think he ever will.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
RockmonkeySC wrote:Kowalski675 wrote:eric draven wrote:Sorry,I wasn't on about Guy Martin riding his Orange ,I was talking about his ability to ride a motorbike at insane speeds
Indeed he can. Never quite fast enough to get that TT win though.
I don't think he ever will.
I agree. Not unless McGuiness and Dunlop retire anyway.0 -
Even then he needs to learn how to ride a full race distance without blowing up his engine.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350
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RockmonkeySC wrote:He isn't slow on a mountain bike either.
He isn't that fast either, I don't really get the interest in his mountain biking activities. Although he does have a good accent.0 -
He is doing the Newquay (Wales, not Cornwall) urban downhill this year.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350
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After the huge wait for the new dh bike I think most people were a bit underwhelmed that it was a 222 Evo Evo Evo Evo. But they fixed the shock rate problem by moving the front shock mount, and they fixed the cracking frames problem by making sure nobody bought it.RockmonkeySC wrote:He isn't slow on a mountain bike either.
He's no slouch, he was knocking out 6:30 runs at fort william which OK is well off the pro pace but still more than respectable (that's on the slow version of the track too). Though I beat him so he can't be that good.
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