what No more FR and DH bikes?

nicklouse

http://orangebikes.co.uk/bikes/

who cares anyway?

rockmonkeysc

Damn, now what do you buy if you want to pay £2000 too much for a bike designed in the mid 90's?
I think I have only seen 322's ridden by Orange sponsored riders, no one was stupid enough to actually buy one.

thelonegroover

I see quite a few people in Yorkshire still seem to buy Orange 5s. Have to agree though, they are over priced for a single pivot bike, but then Santa Cruz Hecklers are also.

rockmonkeysc

The Orange 322 was more expensive than a carbon Davinci Wilson with a better build! Its not surprising no one buys them.

pesky_jones

RockmonkeySC wrote:

The Orange 322 was more expensive than a carbon Davinci Wilson with a better build! Its not surprising no one buys them.

Ok, Ok, you've made your point

rockmonkeysc

Its nearly as expensive as a Santa Cruz V10. How did they expect to sell them?

pesky_jones

At gun point

homers_double

Thelonegroover wrote:

but then Santa Cruz Hecklers are also.

Pft, what do you know.

rockmonkeysc

For only £200 more you can get a carbon Evil Undead or for £1000 less you can get a Nukeproof Pulse Pro.
Seriously, why did they think they could sell it at £2500 frame only or £5000 for a full build?
I thought stuff was cheaper up north. The MD of Orange probably paid less than £5k for his house. Just think how many flat caps or whippets you could buy for the price of just a 322 frame. You could get an entire fleet of racing pigeons.
Good, honest Yorkshire value.

The Northern Monkey

Thelonegroover wrote:

I see quite a few people in Yorkshire still seem to buy Orange 5s. Have to agree though, they are over priced for a single pivot bike, but then Santa Cruz Hecklers are also.

That's because people in Yorkshire live in the stone age... Orange bikes were designed in the stone age and are still built with equipment from the stone age, so it all add up!

rockmonkeysc

There's nothing wrong with single pivots. Orange use the most basic form of single pivot. Other, more modern designs use linkages to drive the shock and control the rising spring rate better.
It was quite expensive in my opinion.

ilovedirt

They can ride alright, but they took so bloody long to bring out the 322 (too long, considering all they did was move the pivot a few inches and make it a bit uglier), and it cost so much that it's not surprising they had to drop it. Why anyone would buy one is beyond me. An Alpine 160 on the other hand, yes please.

rockmonkeysc

Even by downhill standards it pedals really badly and kicks back like a 1990's Patriot.
I demoed a Alpine 160 a couple years ago and wasn't impressed. It rode ok but a bit crude.

cooldad

One day I will buy an Orange just to annoy people by posting how awesome it is.

rockmonkeysc

The Orange Blood was really good. They didn't make it for very long though.
I quite liked the P7 although it was a bit over priced.

swod1

Thelonegroover wrote:

I see quite a few people in Yorkshire still seem to buy Orange 5s. Have to agree though, they are over priced for a single pivot bike, but then Santa Cruz Hecklers are also.

i dont have an orange but did want one until i gave myself a slap to wake up.

Around here where i live in yorkshire not many oranges about more trek, cannondale, boardman fs to name a few.

they are overpriced for what you get on them, it wouldnt be so bad if the frame was lower in price.

I did see a vid on youtube with motorbike rider guy martin and he seemed to be impressed with them on a visit to the factory.

Kowalski675

swod1 wrote:

I did see a vid on youtube with motorbike rider guy martin and he seemed to be impressed with them on a visit to the factory.

He likes Victorian engineering...

lawman

I rode a 5 again recently and it felt very crude, simple and I couldn't understand why it cost what it did. The geometry felt reasonable, but it didn't feel at all modern or sophisticated, very agricultural. That might appeal to some people, but I really can't see why. The DH bikes seem even more ridiculous than the 5 in all honesty, as has been said, hugely expensive and I really can't see why.

I'm sure the reason why most people say they ride so well is because they read it somewhere and have convinced themselves it's the best bike ever, half the time they seem to be ridden by 16+ stone all the gear no idea types, who seemingly have more pivots on their bike than they do braincells!*

*Some 5 owners are alright, they're just a bit misinformed!

HebdenBiker

I have a 5. I like it. If I rode some other bikes, I would probably like them too. But I haven't. I have a 5. So there.

Kowalski675

HebdenBiker wrote:

I have a 5. I like it. If I rode some other bikes, I would probably like them too. But I haven't.

You parted with that kind of cash without testing any other bikes? Seriously? :shock:

BigAl

HebdenBiker wrote:

I have a 5. I like it. If I rode some other bikes, I would probably like them too. But I haven't. I have a 5. So there.

Do you wear clothes that fit?

Just have this image of you wearing whatever you found first

supersonic

Pedal feedback. Pivot too high, and too much travel for it.

rockmonkeysc

supersonic wrote:

Pedal feedback. Pivot too high, and too much travel for it.

Is that any particular Orange or just a general description of all their full sus bikes?

lawman

This is how you make a single pivot...



I would very much like a go on that!

ilovedirt

lawman wrote:

This is how you make a single pivot...



I would very much like a go on that!

Yeah me too!

supersonic

Yeah, I'd put the shock there too...

BigAl

supersonic wrote:

Yeah, I'd put the shock there too...

rockmonkeysc

Orange wouldn't be stupid enough to mount the shock there.

poah

cooldad wrote:

One day I will buy an Orange just to annoy people by posting how awesome it is.

TBF you've annoyed people without having to buy an orange

poah

lawman wrote:

This is how you make a single pivot...



I would very much like a go on that!

not sure if you are joking but that's a 4 bar linkage.

lawman

POAH wrote:

lawman wrote:

This is how you make a single pivot...



I would very much like a go on that!

not sure if you are joking but that's a 4 bar linkage.

Wrong. Pivot on the seatstay, not chainstay, it's a linkage actuated single pivot design.