Fig rolls. I really hope there is an alternative.

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  • t4tomo
    t4tomo Posts: 2,643
    Phil_D wrote:
    Is there a definitive answer here?
    soreen and flapjack :D
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  • simona75
    simona75 Posts: 336
    Nutrigrain cake bars (or supermarket own brand equivalent) work for me. Lots of variety, ok carbohydrate content (about 30-35g each) and about 30p each in multipacks.
  • meursault
    meursault Posts: 1,433
    madasahattersley wrote:
    Grill wrote:
    Aerobic carbohydrate metabolism consumes less oxygen than aerobic fat metabolism as fat metabolism consumes more O2 per unit of ATP produced, so a carbohydrate burning muscle will perform at a higher level than a fat burning muscle. This does assume you're you're not slacking off on your ride as fat metabolism territory doesn't require any real exertion so no additional fuel needed.

    Well here's the problem; there's plenty of qualified sports nutritionists who will argue against almost everything you've said yet because this is the shady world of sports nutrition everybody thinks they're right and are completely closed to any other point of view.

    Except a hypothesis has been suggested and has no counter thus far. It isn't that logical or rational or scientific to just say that it is wrong or a problem.
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  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    madasahattersley wrote:
    Grill wrote:
    Aerobic carbohydrate metabolism consumes less oxygen than aerobic fat metabolism as fat metabolism consumes more O2 per unit of ATP produced, so a carbohydrate burning muscle will perform at a higher level than a fat burning muscle. This does assume you're you're not slacking off on your ride as fat metabolism territory doesn't require any real exertion so no additional fuel needed.

    Well here's the problem; there's plenty of qualified sports nutritionists who will argue against almost everything you've said yet because this is the shady world of sports nutrition everybody thinks they're right and are completely closed to any other point of view.

    Works for me. Pro tour riders mostly ingest fast release carbs that are low in fat (except for Chris Horner) and they seem to do pretty well...
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  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    madasahattersley wrote:
    Grill wrote:
    Works for me. Pro tour riders mostly ingest fast release carbs that are low in fat (except for Chris Horner) and they seem to do pretty well...

    What's that based on?

    Seriously bro? Now you're just acting the petulant child. Tell me that pros don't survive off a steady diet of gels and energy bars as well whatever else their chefs have made (rice cakes, potatoes, sandwiches, etc.). Sis, High5, Zipvit, Gatorade, Torq, etc. do loads of research in the most efficient fuel sources for cycling and I have yet to see any high fat, high protein, low carb nutrition from any of them that is aimed at endurance athletes. Look at what Wilko ingested for his 12hr and 24hr records: energy bars and drink. Did Porte go back to the team car to get Froome a bag of pork scratchings when he was flagging on Alpe d'Huez? On TT's do you have gels up your legs or bacon butties? Do you use energy powders or protein powder in your bidons? :roll:
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  • chrisaonabike
    chrisaonabike Posts: 1,914
    Grill wrote:
    Did Porte go back to the team car to get Froome a bag of pork scratchings when he was flagging on Alpe d'Huez?
    Grill, you're one of the best entertainers on here. Keep it up mate :)

    You're even right most of the time...
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  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    Dude, this is a thread about what to eat while you're riding, not during the day. Shall we see what Nigel Mitchell has to say on the subject?
    But on the bike, it’s carbs all the way. “You have to make sure they keep getting the fuel in when they train – so on the bike they will take in 30 to 60 grams of carbohydrate an hour.”
    Source: http://road.cc/content/news/88399-nigel-mitchell-reveals-team-skys-nutrition-tricks

    OH MY GOD! SOMEBODY PINCH ME! IT'S EXACTLY AS I'VE BEEN SAYING!

    I should really win a prize for this...
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  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    I thought it was simple:

    Before ride: slow release carbs.
    During ride: easy to digest and quick release carbs.
    After ride: protein for recovery and carbs to replenish glycogen stores.

    Plus before and during ride dont eat anything that your stomach will have to work hard to digest as that will divert energy away from the muscles you want to get it.

    If you are not racing or training properly though, there is also the psychological aspect to consider - cake or bacon sarnie may not fit the above but give you a mental boost, so as long as you dont overdo it they can be useful at times.
  • Velonutter
    Velonutter Posts: 2,437
    diamonddog wrote:
    Being vegetarian and having really weird dietery requirements I could only manage the Minstrels option but tend to stick to fruit or nuts. :)

    I'm vegetarian as well and I use Jaffa cakes and Sainsbury do a Soft Fruit Jelly sweet which have 8g of carbs per sweet (No gelatine or anything animal related)
  • diamonddog
    diamonddog Posts: 3,426
    Velonutter wrote:
    I'm vegetarian as well and I use Jaffa cakes and Sainsbury do a Soft Fruit Jelly sweet which have 8g of carbs per sweet (No gelatine or anything animal related)

    Cheers I'll have sniff at them. :)
  • sadlybiggins
    sadlybiggins Posts: 158
    Grill wrote:
    Did Porte go back to the team car to get Froome a bag of pork scratchings when he was flagging on Alpe d'Huez?

    That would have been worth seeing though: "Sorry, Chris, car's out of gels so I got you a family size bag of Mr Porky instead".
  • jazgill
    jazgill Posts: 98
    If you've got a decent amount of spare time, get yourself a book called "feed zone portables" and do some baking. Makes a massive difference to me when I've got proper food to eat on the go. Can't stand the taste of bars or gels.
  • MichaelW
    MichaelW Posts: 2,164
    A fig roll for date-lovers?

    The Date Roll.

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