enve 3.4 or zipp 202 ?

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  • Wirral_paul
    Wirral_paul Posts: 2,476
    pearceygy wrote:
    Going to take the plunge and and buy myself the best all round wheel set available and I've have narrowed it down to these two.
    Both have great reviews but wanted to hear from someone on here that has actually used them.

    I'd rather have some Lightweight Meilenstein's - but your options are fine as you're on a tight budget :lol::lol:
  • majormantra
    majormantra Posts: 2,094
    CK hubs are way prettier than DT.

    DTs are less elaborately constructed though, which is a good thing.
  • mc juice
    mc juice Posts: 3
    agreed! CK look much better - cannot believe 180s cost big money for WHITE w/black lettering. what were they thinking? ugh
  • Velonutter
    Velonutter Posts: 2,437
    Here's my take on 303's (I know you are asking about 202's but the hubs are the same), if you ride Shimano or SRAM, then the clearance between the inside of the Jockey cage and the spokes is about 6-7mm, with Campag 11 Speed it was just over 1mm and when pushing hard up a hill, it rubbed, no matter how hard I tried to adjust the rear mech and on different bikes it still rubbed.

    In addition you could adjust the rear hub so that there was zero play and you'd get chain slap, slacken it off a gnats hair and you'd have play in the rear hub that caused even more rubbing.

    This was with 2013 Zipp 303 Firecrests, unfortunately I bought them with less than 200 miles on them off fleabay and couldn't return them for a refund.

    IMHO Zipp hubs are crap and I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

    I'm looking into some Enve 3.4's but I have noticed that the DT hubs easily lose their paint, so I might go down the root of Tune or CK, the only problem is that I want to see the clearances from the Jockey wheel and rear spokes first.

    Rumour has it that Campag are going to Launch a new range of Carbon Clinchers as they only have the Hyperon's at the moment, now if you want to talk real quality they would probably eat any other narrow profile wheel for breakfast and be bullet proof!
  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    I'd take the Enves over the Zipps.

    However for that sort of money I think I'd look for a deeper rim; specifically Reynolds Areo 58s, which seem to be getting rave reviews.

    @Velonutter: I have *never* understood Campy's apparent aversion to deep section carbon clinchers. it's baffling. Hyperons have been around for years, so they plainly know how to make a carbon clincher. Yet last year (or was it the year before?) they put out Bullets with their alu brake track and boat anchor weights. That seemed to be a golden opportunity to put out some deep carbon clinchers which was wilfully passed up.
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  • Velonutter
    Velonutter Posts: 2,437
    @Greg,

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the Hyperons were made by Corima, superb wheels and I have been looking at their clinchers 8)

    I have a couple of pairs of Bullet Ultras, superb bomb proof wheels and for 50mm with Ally braking come in at 1590g which is really not bad at all.

    Can't find out too much about the Corimas, but would be very tempted to some of their lightweights :mrgreen:
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    @ velonutter, if you only had 1mm clearance then you must have has something installed incorrectly. I run my 303 FC's on a Record or SR equipped bike and there's at least 5mm clearance between rear mech and spokes when in the big cog and wee ring.
  • Velonutter
    Velonutter Posts: 2,437
    thegreatdivide wrote:
    @ velonutter, if you only had 1mm clearance then you must have has something installed incorrectly. I run my 303 FC's on a Record or SR equipped bike and there's at least 5mm clearance between rear mech and spokes when in the big cog and wee ring.

    That's what I thought, but double checked and took the wheels into my LBS who are brill with wheel building and zipps and everything was fine, so the only thing I can think of was that the hub hadn't been machined correctly.

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