Smart watches - pointless?
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Aww you guys... Just had a spitting coffee on the ipad moment...
Wasn't quite sure whether to post this on my ipad, my iPod, PC or smartphone, missus laptop or school laptop or ipad, sons ipad mini or smartphone or notebook. My watch is a garmin 405 and i have an edge 500 on my bike. Need a smart watch? Of course I do... I'm running out of options here0 -
Mikey23 wrote:Aww you guys... Just had a spitting coffee on the ipad moment...
Wasn't quite sure whether to post this on my ipad, my iPod, PC or smartphone, missus laptop or school laptop or ipad, sons ipad mini or smartphone or notebook. My watch is a garmin 405 and i have an edge 500 on my bike. Need a smart watch? Of course I do... I'm running out of options here
The thing is, although the few above know your right, they can't possibly agree with you as it agrees with me
I too have lots of things I don't need, hence the pointless comments but try getting that to the above few proves difficult
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I have a couple or three nice watches but tend to wear my polar FT1 (ugly bottom of the range hr monitor).
The only time anyone has commented on my watches was when a rather attractive lady commented on the polar which led to us having a good chat about training and cycling...Insta: ATEnduranceCoaching
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Everything is meaningless. What does man gain from all his labour at which he toils under the sun... Ecclesiastes 1:20
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VTech wrote:
But he had polished shoes (even though he never worse socks) and wore a gold Longiner watch.
Actually Einstein wore a gold "Longines" watch.
Couple of points here: Of course what watch you choose to wear says something about you - it just may not say what you WANT it to say about you. Like any branded item its a statement of how you wish to be perceived or perceive yourself.
As for jolly old VTechs point about hiring someone with the "right" watch (even though he was perhaps misquoted), If I noticed a candidate with the "right" watch at an interview I'd ding 'em right off, it would imply that they didn't know how to size their double cuffs correctly with their tailor. Nice pair of Lobbs, on the other hand, straight into round two regardless of their dancing ability.Fitter....healthier....more productive.....0 -
What's interesting is how we use the things we buy to define who we are and this is openly acknowledged here. People are suggesting they make positive assessments based on presentation.
And yet, when people make negative assumptions based on those possessions it is immediately dismissed as jealousy / stereotyping etc. (Thinking the range rover driving thread as a working example).
The fact is we all do it as it's human nature but it is so full of value contradictions it's untrue.
As for work, I'm a scruffy git that produces high quality work whilst wearing a basic garmin HR watch. I work with some very smart people who produce cr*p work. What does that tell you? People (all of US) make arbitrary decisions based on personal values is what it tells me. This enables us to mix with people we feel affinity towards and reject others to different degrees of irrelevance.0 -
If I buy that smart watch will it truly make me happy?
Sadly, most of us gain our significance from what we do and the stuff we accumulate
Perhaps we need to think more about who we are and why we exist...0 -
morstar wrote:What's interesting is how we use the things we buy to define who we are and this is openly acknowledged here. People are suggesting they make positive assessments based on presentation.
And yet, when people make negative assumptions based on those possessions it is immediately dismissed as jealousy / stereotyping etc. (Thinking the range rover driving thread as a working example).
The fact is we all do it as it's human nature but it is so full of value contradictions it's untrue.
As for work, I'm a scruffy git that produces high quality work whilst wearing a basic garmin HR watch. I work with some very smart people who produce cr*p work. What does that tell you? People (all of US) make arbitrary decisions based on personal values is what it tells me. This enables us to mix with people we feel affinity towards and reject others to different degrees of irrelevance.
I made the exact same comment on the thread about universities Oxford/Cambridge.
I would rather take the word of the tutor than the results of exams and this has done me well, I've had great fortune in working with some real talented kids over the past few years who may not have got the best marks but have turned into great technicians. I've worked with straight A students who have been useless.
I'm sure it works both ways but first impressions have rarely proven true (for me anyway)
Anyway, I still tell them to wear clean shoes and my own kids have always had a watch since the ages of 5. They can tell the time perfectly where kids of 8 and 9 cant.
They look after there watches with pride even though they are worth less than 20 quid. I like that.Living MY dream.0 -
VTech wrote:team47b wrote:Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social enviroment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
Mr Einstein was right IMO
But he had polished shoes (even though he never worse socks) and wore a gold Longiner watch.
And he was, clearly by your remark, right my isetta is a 300cc bike0 -
team47b wrote:VTech wrote:team47b wrote:Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social enviroment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
Mr Einstein was right IMO
But he had polished shoes (even though he never worse socks) and wore a gold Longiner watch.
And he was, clearly by your remark, right
Well, that's up for debate.
For myself, I like to think I'm right all the time but am often wrong !
I'm opinionated but open for change.
I drive my wife insane at times but I think she would prefer someone who speaks his mind than someone who says what he thinks she would want to hear so I'm happy to stay as I am Living MY dream.0 -
You can always be relied on for an interesting perspective!0
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VTech wrote:team47b wrote:VTech wrote:team47b wrote:Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social enviroment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
Mr Einstein was right IMO
But he had polished shoes (even though he never worse socks) and wore a gold Longiner watch.
And he was, clearly by your remark, right
Well, that's up for debate.
For myself, I like to think I'm right all the time but am often wrong !
I'm opinionated but open for change.
I drive my wife insane at times but I think she would prefer someone who speaks his mind than someone who says what he thinks she would want to hear so I'm happy to stay as I am
I just meant that you were displaying the prejudices of your social environment.
We will save the debate on whether Einstein was 'right' to say this for another day my isetta is a 300cc bike0 -
Scenario for VTech:
You work in a large company and HR have asked you to interview a candidate. You immediately take a dislike to his watch but conduct the interview anyway. He is easily up the standards required by the company to carry out the role offered.
However, you've got standards and anyone wearing a watch that 'isn't up to snuff' just isn't good enough.
What do you say to HR?0 -
Have a very limited experience of interviewing but its very hard to avoid prejudice affecting your decision about who to hire. I suppose the danger is that the organisation starts to take on the appearance of the interviewer which may not necessarily be a good thing...0
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dodgy wrote:Scenario for VTech:
You work in a large company and HR have asked you to interview a candidate. You immediately take a dislike to his watch but conduct the interview anyway. He is easily up the standards required by the company to carry out the role offered.
However, you've got standards and anyone wearing a watch that 'isn't up to snuff' just isn't good enough.
What do you say to HR?
Firstly, I would never judge anyone for work by the watch they wear, I have pointed this out several times although if it were a sales position and the guy was scruffy it wouldn't go down well.
I actually don't hire or fire because a, I don't like it and b, have often "got it wrong"Living MY dream.0 -
I used to interview a lot and always looked for diverse personalities. I always hate really detailed personality profiles that assume a very specific personality best suits a job. I think a mixed bag of dispositions means a more versatile workforce.Mikey23 wrote:Have a very limited experience of interviewing but its very hard to avoid prejudice affecting your decision about who to hire. I suppose the danger is that the organisation starts to take on the appearance of the interviewer which may not necessarily be a good thing...
However, even with such an open mind, as the interviewer and decision maker on hiring, it is inevitable that you still end up with a work force that the interviewer finds palatable. This will always be a restricted sub-section of society.
A director at our place (who is the least capable director I've ever known) keeps employing touchy feely customer service types ( regardless of the role to be filled) who are inevitably yes men/women. She wonders why her department is in permanent disarray and projects go wrong with alarming regularity.
This has nothing to do with her watch btw!0 -
team47b wrote:Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social enviroment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
Mr Einstein was right IMO
Werner Heisenberg thought Einstein to be right, but know is not so sure. 0 -
Wouldn't happen on my watch0
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Mikey23 wrote:Everything is meaningless. What does man gain from all his labour at which he toils under the sun... Ecclesiastes 1:2
After 50 years service, a nice gold watch.0 -
Ballysmate wrote:team47b wrote:Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social enviroment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
Mr Einstein was right IMO
Werner Heisenberg thought Einstein to be right, but know is not so sure.
I'm not surprised he thought he was right, he was only four years old when Einstein formulated special relativity.
I think you have to have a mind greater than a four year old to be able to debate whether Einstein was right or not my isetta is a 300cc bike0 -
lots of people in my profession wear expensive watches, I wear a twenty quid Sekonda. When people wear expensive watches I often wonder what statement they are making. Most watches keep reasonable time so expensive watches seem to me to be little more than status symbols...as are expensive cars.0
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Yellow Peril wrote:lots of people in my profession wear expensive watches, I wear a twenty quid Sekonda. When people wear expensive watches I often wonder what statement they are making. Most watches keep reasonable time so expensive watches seem to me to be little more than status symbols...as are expensive cars.
I cant get my head round the expense issue ?
Why has the value got anything to do with it ?
I have a Rolex, I love the watch, my most prized possession but it keeps crap time as all Rolex watches do and I have a cheap KC watch that is lovely looking and keeps perfect time. Value isnt important.Living MY dream.0 -
VTech wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:lots of people in my profession wear expensive watches, I wear a twenty quid Sekonda. When people wear expensive watches I often wonder what statement they are making. Most watches keep reasonable time so expensive watches seem to me to be little more than status symbols...as are expensive cars.
I cant get my head round the expense issue ?
Why has the value got anything to do with it ?
I have a Rolex, I love the watch, my most prized possession but it keeps crap time as all Rolex watches do and I have a cheap KC watch that is lovely looking and keeps perfect time. Value isnt important.
You'll have to explain this contradiction to me VTech. You admit that a very expensive watch that keeps poorer time than a cheaper watch is your most prized possession. Then why is that the case if it isn't for the status of wearing a Rolex?0 -
pleeease, don't wind him up
he bought it when he was poor to show others he wasn't as poor as he actually was, as we now all know you can be fairly judged by the watch you choose :roll:my isetta is a 300cc bike0 -
More wind up please0
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Yellow Peril wrote:VTech wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:lots of people in my profession wear expensive watches, I wear a twenty quid Sekonda. When people wear expensive watches I often wonder what statement they are making. Most watches keep reasonable time so expensive watches seem to me to be little more than status symbols...as are expensive cars.
I cant get my head round the expense issue ?
Why has the value got anything to do with it ?
I have a Rolex, I love the watch, my most prized possession but it keeps crap time as all Rolex watches do and I have a cheap KC watch that is lovely looking and keeps perfect time. Value isnt important.
You'll have to explain this contradiction to me VTech. You admit that a very expensive watch that keeps poorer time than a cheaper watch is your most prized possession. Then why is that the case if it isn't for the status of wearing a Rolex?
Very easy to explain, when I was a kid for some reason I wanted 2 things, to visit Jamaica and to one day own a Rolex.
As soon as I could afford it and after working for 4 years as a kid I earnt the money to buy a Rolex. Once becoming an owner of one I quickly realised that mine didnt keep time and then after research found that they all have the same issue. That didnt deter the fact that it is my most prized possession though, I will keep it until the day I die hopefully.
BTW, Jamaica was awesome
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VTech wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:VTech wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:lots of people in my profession wear expensive watches, I wear a twenty quid Sekonda. When people wear expensive watches I often wonder what statement they are making. Most watches keep reasonable time so expensive watches seem to me to be little more than status symbols...as are expensive cars.
I cant get my head round the expense issue ?
Why has the value got anything to do with it ?
I have a Rolex, I love the watch, my most prized possession but it keeps crap time as all Rolex watches do and I have a cheap KC watch that is lovely looking and keeps perfect time. Value isnt important.
You'll have to explain this contradiction to me VTech. You admit that a very expensive watch that keeps poorer time than a cheaper watch is your most prized possession. Then why is that the case if it isn't for the status of wearing a Rolex?
Very easy to explain, when I was a kid for some reason I wanted 2 things, to visit Jamaica and to one day own a Rolex.
As soon as I could afford it and after working for 4 years as a kid I earnt the money to buy a Rolex. Once becoming an owner of one I quickly realised that mine didnt keep time and then after research found that they all have the same issue. That didnt deter the fact that it is my most prized possession though, I will keep it until the day I die hopefully.
BTW, Jamaica was awesome
Right so you agree
(a) smart watches are pointless- they keep crap time
(b) you aspired to own an expensive watch for no other reason than the fact that it was expensive ergo a status symbol.
By the way I've no problem with people owning such things as long as they don't try and kid themselves it is for reasons other than status and...although my Sekonda keeps good time it is sh1t at keeping the date (cheap Russky cr@p!)
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This is freaky
a) I never suggested smart watches keep crap time, I would actually think they keep superb time. The pointless remark was aimed at most new techy stuff in the true sense, not the objective.
b) No, I wanted to own a rolex, they look beautiful. It would be like saying you want a beautiful wife for no other reason than to show her off to your friends when in reality for me it would be because i want to enjoy looking at her.
Trying to define expensive as purely status symbol is odd. I can accept some do and some don't.
I cant argue that ive been taken in by "smart" advertising, im very guilty of that as almost everyone here is (look at my initial posts on this forum that caused me all of the trouble in the first place where I dared to suggest as bikers, in fact anything fitness related, your/were all ripped off as they know we will pay).
As for next weeks topic, the lambo is definitely no family saloon.Living MY dream.0 -
Yellow Peril wrote:. . . When people wear expensive watches I often wonder what statement they are making. . .
It breaks down into a few sub-questions:
(1) Do they want to make a statement?
(2) If the answer to the above is "Yes",
(2a) What statement do they intend to make?
(2b) Do they actually make that statement?
(2c) What other unintended statements are they making?
(3) If the answer to (1) is "No", what unintended statements are they making?
At a guess . . . .
(1) Not always
(2a) Whatever else they claim, either "I'm rich enough to join your gang" or "I'm richer than you" depending on the audience. Also, "I'm rich enough to buy you expensive gifts in exchange for certain favours"
(2b) Not always
(2c) "I had all this money and spent it all on myself for a watch that doesn't keep as good time as a plastic Casio" among others
(3) see (2c)Specialized Roubaix Elite 2015
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