The 'Services' thread. Warning: May include rations pack
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As above: we are there to serve our Country - we don't serve the politicians or the accountants who pay our wages, we are there for our families, your families and our mates - the people we signed up with and serve with and who we know will do anything for us (and us for them).
It sounds ridiculous but I don't think that any civvies will understand and feel the bond that men/women who are in Service feel - as much as we take the pisss out of other Regiments (bunch of crap hats) we all know that we will do anything for them.
I'm a combat medic and know that should it come to it then yes, I'm out there doing anything for anyone - I'm there to serve first, not take another life. My job is to save life. But if you have to ............
The Marine thing - its unfortunate but it happens. From what I understand they had just been through a hellish period and this is what happened. A split moment decision - as they say in training, it was "an unthinking moment" - that unfortunately has had dire consequences.
You can't forget what happened in this instance and the general public and braying Daily Mail masses will never understand what went on out there: you can only support and stand by the guys and girls who are doing the job that 98% of people won't touch - not just tomorrow but everyday. When I'm standing there tomorrow like I was today I 'm not thinking of me - I'm thinking of Them.0 -
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Excellent post.John Clark1 wrote:As above: we are there to serve our Country - we don't serve the politicians or the accountants who pay our wages, we are there for our families, your families and our mates - the people we signed up with and serve with and who we know will do anything for us (and us for them).
It sounds ridiculous but I don't think that any civvies will understand and feel the bond that men/women who are in Service feel - as much as we take the pisss out of other Regiments (bunch of crap hats) we all know that we will do anything for them.
I'm a combat medic and know that should it come to it then yes, I'm out there doing anything for anyone - I'm there to serve first, not take another life. My job is to save life. But if you have to ............
The Marine thing - its unfortunate but it happens. From what I understand they had just been through a hellish period and this is what happened. A split moment decision - as they say in training, it was "an unthinking moment" - that unfortunately has had dire consequences.
You can't forget what happened in this instance and the general public and braying Daily Mail masses will never understand what went on out there: you can only support and stand by the guys and girls who are doing the job that 98% of people won't touch - not just tomorrow but everyday. When I'm standing there tomorrow like I was today I 'm not thinking of me - I'm thinking of Them.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0 -
seanoconn wrote:
Excellent post.John Clark1 wrote:As above: we are there to serve our Country - we don't serve the politicians or the accountants who pay our wages, we are there for our families, your families and our mates - the people we signed up with and serve with and who we know will do anything for us (and us for them).
It sounds ridiculous but I don't think that any civvies will understand and feel the bond that men/women who are in Service feel - as much as we take the pisss out of other Regiments (bunch of crap hats) we all know that we will do anything for them.
I'm a combat medic and know that should it come to it then yes, I'm out there doing anything for anyone - I'm there to serve first, not take another life. My job is to save life. But if you have to ............
The Marine thing - its unfortunate but it happens. From what I understand they had just been through a hellish period and this is what happened. A split moment decision - as they say in training, it was "an unthinking moment" - that unfortunately has had dire consequences.
You can't forget what happened in this instance and the general public and braying Daily Mail masses will never understand what went on out there: you can only support and stand by the guys and girls who are doing the job that 98% of people won't touch - not just tomorrow but everyday. When I'm standing there tomorrow like I was today I 'm not thinking of me - I'm thinking of Them.
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At the service tomorrow I will wear my poppy with the utmost pride, having lost mates in 'peace keeping' as well as combat...0 -
Bit of a different direction with this post. Left the Military last year after 25 years, went straight into employment doing virtually the same job on the same unit but as a contractor. Over the last 12 months an overwhelming feeling of what I can only describe as "misery" has developed, every day I have to go to work seems to be more uninviting than the last - total lack of motivation on my part. I left to ensure that I wasn't posted away from my (young)family, we put roots down about 6 years ago and the 2 tours of weekend commuting were pretty crap for all us and I didn't fancy another 12 years of that ( and the posts available in my trade/rank were getting less & less interesting (ie desk bound). Don't know what it is but when I leave for work in the morning, by the time I get to work I feel ready to cry, just full of almost despair (bit dramatic I know!) for the day ahead. Can't sleep some nights, thinking how crap its going to be. Part of me thinks that I'm just missing the service, even though I'm working on the same unit I just don't feel part of it anymore, hard to describe really. Am looking for a new job in a totally different environment, so hopefully this will improve things. The point is, any other service leavers feel/felt the same since leaving? How did you break out of it?
Is it a consideration that I left only 6 months after getting back from (yet another) OOA tour? Any advice gratefully received.0 -
I turned to drugs & alcohol.
They didn't help.
Sorry you're troubled by the change, maybe speak to SSAFA? Or British Legion.0 -
24848956 Fox here, EX Scaly back.
Interesting thread. Served for over ten years and dont regret a minute of it.0 -
Sorry to hear you're struggling a bit mate. As Gethinceri said, I'd talk to SSAFA (Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen, Families, Association) If you've served just one day, they'll give you and your family support, when needed, for the rest of your lives.Loretta Damage wrote:Bit of a different direction with this post. Left the Military last year after 25 years, went straight into employment doing virtually the same job on the same unit but as a contractor. Over the last 12 months an overwhelming feeling of what I can only describe as "misery" has developed, every day I have to go to work seems to be more uninviting than the last - total lack of motivation on my part. I left to ensure that I wasn't posted away from my (young)family, we put roots down about 6 years ago and the 2 tours of weekend commuting were pretty crap for all us and I didn't fancy another 12 years of that ( and the posts available in my trade/rank were getting less & less interesting (ie desk bound). Don't know what it is but when I leave for work in the morning, by the time I get to work I feel ready to cry, just full of almost despair (bit dramatic I know!) for the day ahead. Can't sleep some nights, thinking how crap its going to be. Part of me thinks that I'm just missing the service, even though I'm working on the same unit I just don't feel part of it anymore, hard to describe really. Am looking for a new job in a totally different environment, so hopefully this will improve things. The point is, any other service leavers feel/felt the same since leaving? How did you break out of it?
Is it a consideration that I left only 6 months after getting back from (yet another) OOA tour? Any advice gratefully received.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0 -
dmclite. M.I.A possibly A.W.O.L
Come back, all is forgiven.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0 -
Loretta Damage wrote:Bit of a different direction with this post. Left the Military last year after 25 years, went straight into employment doing virtually the same job on the same unit but as a contractor. Over the last 12 months an overwhelming feeling of what I can only describe as "misery" has developed, every day I have to go to work seems to be more uninviting than the last - total lack of motivation on my part. I left to ensure that I wasn't posted away from my (young)family, we put roots down about 6 years ago and the 2 tours of weekend commuting were pretty crap for all us and I didn't fancy another 12 years of that ( and the posts available in my trade/rank were getting less & less interesting (ie desk bound). Don't know what it is but when I leave for work in the morning, by the time I get to work I feel ready to cry, just full of almost despair (bit dramatic I know!) for the day ahead. Can't sleep some nights, thinking how crap its going to be. Part of me thinks that I'm just missing the service, even though I'm working on the same unit I just don't feel part of it anymore, hard to describe really. Am looking for a new job in a totally different environment, so hopefully this will improve things. The point is, any other service leavers feel/felt the same since leaving? How did you break out of it?
Is it a consideration that I left only 6 months after getting back from (yet another) OOA tour? Any advice gratefully received.
Its a massive adjustment to make. Cant imagine what it was like after 25 years, I didn't do half that and ended up going to Uni straight after leaving the army, where I d done all my "Growing up since 16"
Spent the first year in halls, dangling noisey 18 year olds out of third floor windows by their ankles because they just pissed me off so much and I couldn't get their mentality. Took 3 years but in the end I realised it was me who had the fecked up social view and not them.
Cant Imagine going back to my Unit as a Civy. I had a mate did 22 in the Int Corps then did 4 years covert with HMRC and he couldn't hack it, hes back in the Mob now at 42 (what he did was very specialised and they had him back even at that age)
What worked for me in the end was volunteering to do Youth Work, Outdoor stuff and external leadership courses were you can put your old skills to use and do some good at the same time.
You have to realise , nearly everyone you meet is going to have a different perspective and experience of life to you. As squaddies we are very black and white, Very autocratic, we just get on with it and see any sign of Stess or Upset as weakness (its not its an indicator that something isn't right) but the skill we have are good at problem solving and being pragmatic.
Whether in a professional or a personal capacity I would advice you to try and move away from you old role but use the skills and experience from it to give back to others.
You would be surprised how well received Ex services are in sectors such as Youth Work and Teaching. (Youll pull your hair out with despair at first) but the respect you get back from the kids or from seeing them achieve something is immeasurable.
Good luck and have a great Christmas, I know it sounds trite but time does make it better ( and getting on your bike, I ve never meet a miserable fecker on a bike and I know Willhub)
P.S your best not reading Will's posts0 -
Youth Work or FE is a great way to spend your time!
Yes, the little buggers act like Day 1 Nods a times but it is extremely rewarding when they learn to switch on and they can be extremely enthusiastic given the correct motivation.
One thing I have found (been teaching in FE for over 13yrs now) is that they actually WANT the discipline that we take for granted. Kids these days have so many options and choices open to them that they often seem happy to have someone to "guide" them through
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