Orange Alpine 160

ej2320

haha, I guess you were stuck behind the halfords family then..

rockmonkeysc

That and I find groomed trails boring. The natural stuff on Exmoor and the Quantocks is so much more fun and I can do 30 mile routes without riding the same trail twice or seeing more than a few people.

ej2320

RockmonkeySC wrote:

That and I find groomed trails boring. The natural stuff on Exmoor and the Quantocks is so much more fun and I can do 30 mile routes without riding the same trail twice or seeing more than a few people.

What area do you live in? I know some places for natural rides if you know where you're going

lbalony

RockmonkeySC wrote:

What makes them worse than Santa Cruz or Yeti or any of the other overpriced brands?
The Five actually makes a GT Force look good value.

I like Orange bikes but they are ugly. They look like a retro ride made out of girders! Then there is the price, stupid for what they are. May ride very well, i have a few riding buddies who love them and would not ride anything else, but poor engineering, finishing & technology. Not conparable to Yeti etc they are works of art that look good as a bonus.

lbalony

The Northern Monkey wrote:

Its the clique that goes with the Orange 5, seriously the number of all the gear no idea Orange 5 riders astounds me! If you dont know what I mean, ride Gisburn on a bank holiday.

The Orange Alpine doesn't have the same sort of following IMO.

Lol! Was waiting for someone to say it. Once at Lee Quarry some skills day on, 20+ riders was at the top of a run. All Orange fives, loud hubs, mad colours, all the gear etc etc. thought these are gonna be awesome. A team or something. I was a bit wet behind the ears when I got back into it in 2009. They set of like a load of women. Absolute laughable. I tore oast them in my swim shorts and t shirt on my Trek 4500 (500 quid).

I absolutely agree, apart from my mates who ride them, they swear by them and one is stupidly good on it. Even clipped in on downhills. Can get up vertical walls, well literally

cooldad

I know a number of women who can ride me under the table.

ej2320

There's sterotypes for all brands

Orange - well as above
Nukeproof - performance over looks
Yeti - perfectionist
Ect

97th choice

cooldad wrote:

I know a number of women who can ride me under the table.

Quite.

I doubt there is a single person on this forum whose ability exceeds their current equipment.

YeehaaMcgee

ej2320 wrote:

There's sterotypes for all brands

Orange - well as above
Nukeproof - performance over looks
Yeti - perfectionist
Ect

O......k.
:?

cooldad

ej2320 wrote:

There's sterotypes for all brands

Orange - well as above
Nukeproof - performance over looks
Yeti - perfectionist
Ect

Wots an Ect?
Obviously not a Yeti rider.

ej2320

Supposed to be excetra

I seriously considered a yeti due to the attention to detail and Im a bit of a perfectionist

97th choice

ej2320 wrote:

I seriously considered a yeti due to the attention to detail and Im a bit of a perfectionist

What does that mean exactly? Unless I'm mistaken yeti have their frames built in Taiwan like almost everyone else, and the rest of the parts are from the usual manufacturers.

YeehaaMcgee

ej2320 wrote:

Supposed to be excetra

I seriously considered a yeti due to the attention to detail and Im a bit of a perfectionist

No, you're falling into a common trap. You want something, so you imagine that the other people who want, or who own the same thing, have some strong positive trait.
For a great example, consider apple lunatic fans.

cooldad

ej2320 wrote:

Supposed to be excetra

I seriously considered a yeti due to the attention to detail and Im a bit of a perfectionist

You mean

ej2320 wrote:

Supposed to be etcetera.

I seriously considered a Yeti due to the attention to detail and I'm a bit of a perfectionist.

Obviously not.

ilovedirt

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

ej2320 wrote:

Supposed to be excetra

I seriously considered a yeti due to the attention to detail and Im a bit of a perfectionist

No, you're falling into a common trap. You want something, so you imagine that the other people who want, or who own the same thing, have some strong positive trait.
For a great example, consider apple lunatic fans.

I hear that everyone that rides a Marin has homicidal tendencies

Did I mention I'm a lunatic Apple fan?

Kowalski675

cooldad wrote:

ej2320 wrote:

Supposed to be excetra

I seriously considered a yeti due to the attention to detail and Im a bit of a perfectionist

You mean

ej2320 wrote:

Supposed to be etcetera.

I seriously considered a Yeti due to the attention to detail and I'm a bit of a perfectionist.

Obviously not.

Not just me that spotted the irony there then...

YeehaaMcgee

ilovedirt wrote:

I'm a lunatic Apple fan?

oh god.

welshkev

homers_double

ej2320 wrote:

homers double wrote:

RockmonkeySC wrote:

What makes them worse than Santa Cruz or Yeti or any of the other overpriced brands?

Oi, I paid good money to say I own a Santa Cruz!

Custom build I hope..?! the build kits a stupidly overpriced..

Which Cruz do you have? thinking about building an aluminuim Brosnon when I have the money.... joys of a student

2007 Heckler, started off as a relativly basic xt build but has progressed in the following:-
2007 frame, black anodized.
Fox 36 van rc2 forks
xtr brakes, cranks, shifters
xt mechs
pro2 hubs with xm 719 rims
thompson elite seatpost
thompson stem

fancy bits here and there.

ej2320

Looks awesome, how do you find it to ride, I was also considering a Heckler

Good to see the bottle in the background as well

homers_double

Its an awesome bike, much better than I'll ever be. It goes downhill fast and because of the propedal on the RP23 shock it isn't that bad going up either.

I like a nice slack, relaxed ride which this is and its very confidence inspiring through the rough. Mind you the forks help with that too.

swod1

lbalony wrote:

Lol! Was waiting for someone to say it. Once at Lee Quarry some skills day on, 20+ riders was at the top of a run. All Orange fives, loud hubs, mad colours, all the gear etc etc. thought these are gonna be awesome. A team or something. I was a bit wet behind the ears when I got back into it in 2009. They set of like a load of women. Absolute laughable. I tore past them in my swim shorts and t shirt on my Trek 4500 (500 quid).

I absolutely agree, apart from my mates who ride them, they swear by them and one is stupidly good on it. Even clipped in on downhills. Can get up vertical walls, well literally

Hmm that would have been funny to see, i too have a trek 4500, i hope you've swapped the suntour forks for some better ones.

seems I'm better off looking elsewhere, i was interested in getting a 5 frame and building it up but guess best avoid one.

Is the hatred about just the price or are they a rubbish bike anyway and people just buy them because of the brand ?

FishFish

I bought an orange p7 pro a few years ago and so I've paid for it so the price does not matter any longer. I love it - but really I love cycling so probably it would have made no difference what I originally bought - I'd still love the cycling and thus the bike.

I do accept that the spec is poor for the price, the welding is untidy and yes it was expensive - but it had good ratings at the time and the choice was too wide for me to cope with. My enduring pleasure is the steel frame action though - I would have been less happy with an Al frame had I gone that way I think.

I think that orange falls into the category - no-one has ever been fired for buying an orange.

ej2320

swod1 wrote:

lbalony wrote:

Lol! Was waiting for someone to say it. Once at Lee Quarry some skills day on, 20+ riders was at the top of a run. All Orange fives, loud hubs, mad colours, all the gear etc etc. thought these are gonna be awesome. A team or something. I was a bit wet behind the ears when I got back into it in 2009. They set of like a load of women. Absolute laughable. I tore past them in my swim shorts and t shirt on my Trek 4500 (500 quid).

I absolutely agree, apart from my mates who ride them, they swear by them and one is stupidly good on it. Even clipped in on downhills. Can get up vertical walls, well literally

Hmm that would have been funny to see, i too have a trek 4500, i hope you've swapped the suntour forks for some better ones.

seems I'm better off looking elsewhere, i was interested in getting a 5 frame and building it up but guess best avoid one.

Is the hatred about just the price or are they a rubbish bike anyway and people just buy them because of the brand ?

The bike itself is fine, just the stereotypes that come with it

poah

swod1 wrote:

Is the hatred about just the price or are they a rubbish bike anyway and people just buy them because of the brand ?

its a marketing effect - bit like stella lager. Orange have always had this "issue" with other riders. I've had two oranges a C16R and an X2 both bought in the mid 90's. They were overpriced then but not as much as they are now

I personally have nothing against the brand and I've not ridden their current crop of bikes so can't comment on how they are but they are kinda ugly. I also don't think there is anything wrong with people spending money on bikes and equipment when they are novices. I started off on a £200 diamond back traverse in 1993 then progressed to a C16R (£659) then on to the X2 (£640 frame only) before I got my ghost this year. Had someone bought me a top end cannondale or marin I would not have said no.

rockmonkeysc

Its a shame you dont see many 222, 223 or 224s at races much any more. You could always hear them long before you could see them. Sounded like someone threw a sack of spanners down the track.