Britain a bike thiefs paradise.

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  • pesky_jones
    pesky_jones Posts: 2,890
    Fair enough, I missunderstood.
  • welshkev
    welshkev Posts: 9,690
    You know, I was just talking about this, and I realised, that in this sleepy, mainly rural county, in (I believe) the last 5 years we've had...

    Triads were busted running a massive drugs operation out of a builders yard.
    UK's largest ever cannabis plantation was found hidden in disused railway tunnel catacombs.
    A local bloke allegedly sent an explosive package to MI5 (or MI6, I forget which) headquarters.
    Huge heroin haul form a town house.
    Armed robbery at a post office, and a bookmakers.
    Several murders and missing persons.
    Several abductions.
    And, the weirdest one of all, an elderly woman was found strangled, burnt, and dumped upside down in a wheelie-bin - but the death had "nothing suspicious" about it.

    Hmm, considering the low population, this is actually a pretty frikking dangerous place to live, I guess. It's like GTA out there!

    You don't live in the village they filmed hot fuzz do you?!?
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    I'll give you some hot fuzz.
    I don't do smileys.

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  • Another good cop. Seen by my sister ( plod) teenage scrotes x 2 in handcuffs , stolen bikes walton on Thames .

    If it wasn't for our paralympians I would suggest removing limbs like the arabs !
  • gt-arrowhead
    gt-arrowhead Posts: 2,507
    DCR00 wrote:

    You need to move house mate

    My thoughts exactly!
    ej2320 wrote:

    I wasn't being sarcastic... I was genuinely interested in the story

    It was defiantly your bike that you stole back wasn't it..?

    Sorry mate, i kind of come to expect sarcasm after a while on here :P

    Yes, definitely my bike!
    welshkev wrote:
    imagine if it wasn't....

    um, wasn't your bike blue? doh!! :lol:

    Now that would be very embarrasing! Luckily i actually went home before i went tesco specifically to leave my Arrowhead at home and take the crap bike, incase it got stolen. To be honest it wasnt even worth stealing back. It was an unbranded FS heap of crap that weighed more than my house. I stole it back because at the end of the day a bike is a bike, and i wanted to get my own back on the thief.
  • gt-arrowhead
    gt-arrowhead Posts: 2,507
    What i think police (especially in London!) should do is buy a fleet of really flash and attractive/expensive bikes, for example like a big bright red DH bike with high end bits and all the rest of it, then buy a somewhat rubbish cable lock to go with each of them. Then, lock them up and have them fitted with some sort of a tracking chip or have them under surveillance. Then as soon as they start moving, police cars that are nearby can just either follow the robber to his home and potentially discover a whole stash of stolen goods and/or bicycles, or pull him over, and question him and make him look like a complete twat before arresting him for theft.

    The police should do this or something a bit like this. I dont see why they dont do it, it is an easy way of finding the people that are willing to go out of their way to steal a bike.

    On a side not, i do in a way understand why the police dont pay that much attention to bike thefts in cities because lets be honest, they have bigger fish to fry. They would rather be tracking down stolen cars and drug dealers and similar sort of serious criminals rather than worrying about (in my case for example) a teenager with a £30 bike gone missing.
  • YeehaaMcgee
    YeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    What i think
    Save us all the pain, please don't.

    That's "entrapment" you're describing. Although I for one fail to see what's morally wrong with it.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    You are speaking excrement Mr Mcgee. PLenty of signs our way about 'Trap' cars or somesuch.
    It's only entrapment if the nice man outside the public loo offers you money then busts you. Which is why you got off.
    I thought cops did coffee and doughnuts, not fried fish, but I might watch too much TV.
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  • gt-arrowhead
    gt-arrowhead Posts: 2,507
    What i think
    Save us all the pain, please don't.

    That's "entrapment" you're describing. Although I for one fail to see what's morally wrong with it.

    Yep, it is, but if anything its morally right. Its teaching criminals a lesson and making society better. Probably would save the police time too, certainly would be quicker than chasing down a bike that has just been reported stolen. They wont even find the thief most of the time anyway, so its just more time being wasted for nothing.
  • cooldad wrote:
    It's only entrapment if the nice man outside the public loo offers you money then busts you.

    When my copper mate was a fresh-faced young constable, they gave him a job hanging around in plain clothes outside the public bogs at Crosby Marina, busting the cottagers who propositioned him. There were many wrecked careers, a few divorces and at least one suicide.

    He feels terrible about it now.
  • YeehaaMcgee
    YeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    cooldad wrote:
    You are speaking excrement Mr Mcgee. PLenty of signs our way about 'Trap' cars or somesuch.
    Nothing new there though, let's be honest.
    What is it that allows the use of "trap" cars, but not entrapment then, what's the difference, CD?
  • YeehaaMcgee
    YeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    busting the cottagers who propositioned him.
    Ah, is THAT the difference between entrapment and trap? If the cop propositions them, then it's entrapment. If they wait around and get propositioned, it's not?
    Makes sense.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,825
    It may well be entrapment, but it works. That's how this scrote was caught.
  • YeehaaMcgee
    YeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    Veronese68 wrote:
    It may well be entrapment, but it works. That's how this scrote was caught.
    Eh? no mention of anything of the sort there, just that he got caught red-handed.
  • ej2320
    ej2320 Posts: 1,543
    say you knew who took your bike and you know where they live.. would you go to their house to save your pride and joy?
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,825
    Veronese68 wrote:
    It may well be entrapment, but it works. That's how this scrote was caught.
    Eh? no mention of anything of the sort there, just that he got caught red-handed.
    Couldn't find the original article I read whilst I should have been working, that said it was a sting by the Met cycle task force. I read somewhere else they do leave bikes with cheap locks as a honey trap then watch them, sometimes with trackers fitted to find where the bikes are taken and catch the brains behind the outfit. When I had my bike marked by local plod they told me the local Sainsbury's was a bit of a theft hotspot and they were going to be planting a bike there. So it does happen thankfully, read another article about it but I'm too lazy to trawl t'interweb looking for it right now. I'll stick a link up tomorrow if I find it.
  • ej2320
    ej2320 Posts: 1,543
    Veronese68 wrote:
    Veronese68 wrote:
    It may well be entrapment, but it works. That's how this scrote was caught.
    Eh? no mention of anything of the sort there, just that he got caught red-handed.
    Couldn't find the original article I read whilst I should have been working, that said it was a sting by the Met cycle task force. I read somewhere else they do leave bikes with cheap locks as a honey trap then watch them, sometimes with trackers fitted to find where the bikes are taken and catch the brains behind the outfit. When I had my bike marked by local plod they told me the local Sainsbury's was a bit of a theft hotspot and they were going to be planting a bike there. So it does happen thankfully, read another article about it but I'm too lazy to trawl t'interweb looking for it right now. I'll stick a link up tomorrow if I find it.

    http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/News/Tr ... hieves.htm
  • Tracking of chipped bikes also going on in Bristol.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    busting the cottagers who propositioned him.
    Ah, is THAT the difference between entrapment and trap? If the cop propositions them, then it's entrapment. If they wait around and get propositioned, it's not?
    Makes sense.
    In a word, yes.
    But I think my original description was more descriptive.
    Not to mention frighteningly accurate.
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  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    There are no laws preventing the use of entrapment in the UK.
  • ej2320
    ej2320 Posts: 1,543
    There are no laws preventing the use of entrapment in the UK.

    What are we waiting for then?
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    ej2320 wrote:
    There are no laws preventing the use of entrapment in the UK.

    What are we waiting for then?
    You to don your Batgirl costume.
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  • mrmonkfinger
    mrmonkfinger Posts: 1,452
    cooldad wrote:
    ej2320 wrote:
    There are no laws preventing the use of entrapment in the UK.

    What are we waiting for then?
    You to don your Batgirl costume.

    What exactly are you hoping to entrap with ej2320 as Batgirl?
  • YeehaaMcgee
    YeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    You'd be surprised. Takes all sorts.
  • Clank
    Clank Posts: 2,323
    The Rookie wrote:
    Clank wrote:
    My local police finger printed garage , put details in local paper and made 2 home visits . Didn't get the bike back but couldn't blame the police .

    This mirrors the service I had from my local plod. Plus, within 2hrs of putting the bike details on the 'Stolen' section here, I had a phone call from them asking if I'd put the details up because 'a few keywords had been brought to their attention'.

    Err thus proving they were doing something surely?

    Saying they are doing nothing just because they get no results is rather a leap of faith!

    What the....? :?

    Somebody was supporting the service they had received from their local Plod. So was I.

    So yeah, I was exactly proving they were doing something. That was the point of what I wrote.

    Think you may have missed something earlier in the thread.
    How would I write my own epitaph? With a crayon - I'm not allowed anything I can sharpen to a sustainable point.

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  • Jay76
    Jay76 Posts: 58
    I put a D lock on my old scott (like new) 12 years ago and forgot about it. When I came to ride the bike again last year i saw the lock on there and thought oh 5hit, I dont have the key.
    So I loaded the bike into my car and drove to the following places;

    1. locksmiths... walked it straigh in with no form of ID or receipt for the bike. They got their beefiest bolt cutters out and they didnt even mark the thing.
    2. Hardware shop... again they tried with their tools (with out any receipt or proof of purchase)
    3. Car Garage... They couldnt get it off either.. and they tried! They also made a joke about me nicking the bike.

    So.. I bought a axel grinder and after 1 min it came off.

    So 2 points here;

    1st - anyone and everyone will help you remove a lock from a bike with no proof of purchase. They seemed to love the challenge.
    2nd - D locks are bookah and I will ALWAYS use one because with out an axel grinder, it aint coming off!
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  • YeehaaMcgee
    YeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    Thermite would've been easier cheaper and faster.
    What the hell kind of car garage doesn't have an angle grinder?
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGttmR2DTY8

    Watch the whole thing, especially around 1.30
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  • Jay76
    Jay76 Posts: 58
    cooldad wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGttmR2DTY8

    Watch the whole thing, especially around 1.30

    Cant see the vid from work, but if this is someone picking the lock with a paperclip... its doesnt work LOL I spent a good 30 mins looking at those guides ;)
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  • YeehaaMcgee
    YeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    Well that's conclusive then. It's inconceivable that it would take more than 30 minutes to learn a skill.