Compare and contrast

frenchfighter

oneof1982

Bottom one is faster?

RichN95.

One is taken in the last few hundred metres of a TT and the other is taken mid TT.

Dorset_Boy

One's a fraud, and the other is genuine?

Don't quite know what we're supposed to be comparing and contrasting. Might help if they'd been at the same point on the pedal stroke.

Are we looking at how much more efficient Froome is when looking at his power meter than Bertie?

rich_pcp

One at the top is in yellow which aint likely to happen again.

milton50

I'm pretty sure I've got a better TT position than Froome. I'm a hell of a lot slower though.

blinddrew

One has funny shaped chainrings?

RichN95.

I may be wrong, but I think the first photo is taken with a slightly fast shutter speed.

Outsider art by Loan

Milton50 wrote:

I'm pretty sure I've got a better TT position than Froome. I'm a hell of a lot slower though.

I don't know about that... Froome will always look sort of spread out because he's so lanky, but that doesn't mean he isn't very slippery relative to his height and power.

Macaloon

One rider has a TT position that will stand the test of time?

frenchfighter

RichN95 wrote:

I may be wrong, but I think the first photo is taken with a slightly fast shutter speed.

Why do you say that?

alihisgreat

How are we supposed to compare when they're at different points in the pedal stroke?

RichN95.

frenchfighter wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

I may be wrong, but I think the first photo is taken with a slightly fast shutter speed.

Why do you say that?

It's a little less blurry. (I meant to type 'faster', not 'fast' - changes the meaning a little)

frenchfighter

RichN95 wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

I may be wrong, but I think the first photo is taken with a slightly fast shutter speed.

Why do you say that?

It's a little less blurry. (I meant to type 'faster', not 'fast' - changes the meaning a little)

Possibly especially as he is moving faster. The top one is edited the bottom is not also.

frenchfighter

Old school heavyweights forever

Paul 8v

frenchfighter wrote:

Old school heavyweights forever

I often wonder how the older riders would fare on more modern machinery, hard to compare as the stages were much longer years ago so I suppose it would have been a different type of fitness

dougzz

Nike Vs Addidas?

keyser__soze

ALIHISGREAT wrote:

How are we supposed to compare when they're at different points in the pedal stroke?

Also we don't know whether Bertie's about to fall off his saddle again or not. Good back position or not, his constant shuffling makes him look like a complete bag of spanners while TTing, hardly the master of souplesse some would have us believe he is.

morstar

Landis preying mantis position worked for him. Contador does look more compact but he's a totally different build, he does slide up and down all the time as already mentioned and there is absolutely no indication of power or speed in the pictures. I am pretty damn sure that Froomes position has been measured for efficiency. Most likely Sky have got the optimum balance between power and aerodynamics. Everybody knows there is a tradeoff between the two. With maybe the exception of some old school pro cycling teams who are losing the battle to win races.

frenchfighter

Its more about style for me. Chalk and cheese above.

above_the_cows

One's skin suit hasn't faded in the wash.

ddraver

Sums Frenchie up eh? Given that there is chuff all difference between Froome and Contador...

frenchfighter

andrewjoseph

frenchfighter wrote:

Its more about style for me. Chalk and cheese above.

yes, we are aware of that. integrity and honesty play no part in your preferences. for you it must 'look good', nothing else matters.

it's a shame.

morstar

frenchfighter wrote:

Its more about style for me. Chalk and cheese above.

So what's your view on all the modern equipment? Up until about 18 months ago, I used to drool over TT machines. For me, they are now starting to look fugly with random extra bits of material designed to smooth / disrupt airflow.
I think UCI need to have a rethink because the machines already don't look like they want them to. May aswell free up the design constraints.

frenchfighter

I agree, the TT machines now are starting to look as bad as concept cars and are taking on an altogether more space-age feel.

frenchfighter

andrewjoseph wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Its more about style for me. Chalk and cheese above.

yes, we are aware of that. integrity and honesty play no part in your preferences. for you it must 'look good', nothing else matters.

it's a shame.

You are wrong in what you say, as you well know.

I was actually looking for a good photo of Wiggins on a TT machine and was going to c&c another Froome shot

I am glad you agree that Froome has no style though.

lostboysaint

andrewjoseph wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Its more about style for me. Chalk and cheese above.

yes, we are aware of that. integrity and honesty play no part in your preferences. for you it must 'look good', nothing else matters.

it's a shame.

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tailwindhome

Careful!

It's a trap!

Pross

frenchfighter wrote:

andrewjoseph wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Its more about style for me. Chalk and cheese above.

yes, we are aware of that. integrity and honesty play no part in your preferences. for you it must 'look good', nothing else matters.

it's a shame.

You are wrong in what you say, as you well know.

I was actually looking for a good photo of Wiggins on a TT machine and was going to c&c another Froome shot

I am glad you agree that Froome has no style though.

Best Wiggins comparison one I can find



I actually think Froome's position on a TT bike is pretty good considering how bad he looks on a road bike! Dowsett has a good position but I don't think anything matches Wiggins but then he has spent years working to get it just right.

frenchfighter

Heavyweight from early days. No zero to hero here.
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