Pro Tour Data - See how you compare

bahzob

Nice page on the Training Peaks web site here

http://home.trainingpeaks.com/races/2013-tour-de-france.aspx

It can be fun to see how your ride compares with the pros. Can sometimes be quite mind blowing in terms of what they are capable of putting out.

Also useful from a pacing point of view. Will be interesting to see how the statistics for how they ride the Annecy stage compare to the stats of those riding Sunday.

okgo

Nothing interesting on there yet.

Hopefully will be some good numbers flying about when they get into the hills etc.

GGBiker

"On the final climb to the finish (Ax 3 Domaines), Sicard averaged 243 watts (4 w/kg) for 35 minutes and as impressive as this is, by the the time he crossed the finish line at the summit, he gave up nearly 30 minutes to stage winner Froome.
Early attacks from the gun. Sicard hit his 30 second peak power for the stage less than 20 minutes after the start, likely when the early break was trying to get established. He averaged 467 watts (4.7 w/kg), spinning at 89 rpms."

243w for 35 mins, 4w/kg?? I can do that, guys in my club can put out 6w/kg for 30 mins, 5w/kg for an hour (cat 1).

It then goes on to say 467w is 4.7w/kg, implies a weight of 100kg which sounds wrong as the 243w at 4w/kg implies a mass of about 60kg.

alihisgreat

GGBiker wrote:

"On the final climb to the finish (Ax 3 Domaines), Sicard averaged 243 watts (4 w/kg) for 35 minutes and as impressive as this is, by the the time he crossed the finish line at the summit, he gave up nearly 30 minutes to stage winner Froome.
Early attacks from the gun. Sicard hit his 30 second peak power for the stage less than 20 minutes after the start, likely when the early break was trying to get established. He averaged 467 watts (4.7 w/kg), spinning at 89 rpms."

243w for 35 mins, 4w/kg?? I can do that, guys in my club can put out 6w/kg for 30 mins, 5w/kg for an hour (cat 1).

It then goes on to say 467w is 4.7w/kg, implies a weight of 100kg which sounds wrong as the 243w at 4w/kg implies a mass of about 60kg.

You might be able to do 4w/kg for 35 mins.. but is that after a long tour stage.. with a HC climb thrown in before the final effort?

okgo

4 w/kg is not really anything impressive whichever way you cut it for a pro. I'd be able to do that for quite a while and I'm heavy.

alihisgreat

okgo wrote:

4 w/kg is not really anything impressive whichever way you cut it for a pro. I'd be able to do that for quite a while and I'm heavy.

My point is that he probably did equal to or above that power level for longer on the previous HC climb on that stage.

Not to mention the fatigue from the 7 stages that he'd already ridden without a rest day.

okgo

Course he did or hed be out the back door. You'd get dropped in a 2/3 race if you did 4wkg up the hills!

Fatigue yes but honestly these guys could bang out 4/wkg all day. No idea why they have picked this data tbh.

Alex_Simmons/RST

Hi job is just to finish inside the time cut and not waste energy/effort. That's just a steady tempo for these guys.

bahzob

Alex is right, the last climb was done at minimum effort needed just to finish. The first, longer, climb is of more relevance since he will not want to dropped the. The numbers are still quite low though.

"Sicard hit his 20-minute peak power on the upper half of the first climb of the day, the first climb in the Pyrenees, and the highest climb in the 2013 Tour, the Col de Pailhères. He averaged 303 watts (5 w/kg) with a Normalized Power of 314. He was not far from his threshold power of 328 watts."

Hopefully data will go up for the next day soon. It was a bit of a classic and along with most of the field Sicard probably cracked on one of the climbs, will be interesting to see what he was doing just beforehand.

bahzob

It's all over now and there is some quite interesting stuff here, including 2 very different TTs, what it takes to be in a long breakaway (stage 12, 282W/4.6w/kg for 3 hours, damn hard work just to get caught) and various climbs, including the double ascent of ADH, (this especially as it's from David Lopez so shows the difference between pushing hard and climbing sub 50mins (360W 5.3w/kg) and taking it "easy" and doing it 10 mins slower (288W 4.2w/kg*).

Worth checking out.

* This last figure is worth noting for all those wanting to record a sub hour Alp de Huez ascent. Training to a target of 4 w/kg sustained for a full 60 minutes should get you up within the time.

markwb79

ALIHISGREAT wrote:

GGBiker wrote:

"On the final climb to the finish (Ax 3 Domaines), Sicard averaged 243 watts (4 w/kg) for 35 minutes and as impressive as this is, by the the time he crossed the finish line at the summit, he gave up nearly 30 minutes to stage winner Froome.
Early attacks from the gun. Sicard hit his 30 second peak power for the stage less than 20 minutes after the start, likely when the early break was trying to get established. He averaged 467 watts (4.7 w/kg), spinning at 89 rpms."

243w for 35 mins, 4w/kg?? I can do that, guys in my club can put out 6w/kg for 30 mins, 5w/kg for an hour (cat 1).

It then goes on to say 467w is 4.7w/kg, implies a weight of 100kg which sounds wrong as the 243w at 4w/kg implies a mass of about 60kg.

You might be able to do 4w/kg for 35 mins.. but is that after a long tour stage.. with a HC climb thrown in before the final effort?

Yes. I did 4 watts/kg on the last climb of l'etape. I wouldnt have even been inside the time cut.

FatTed

And if you want to know the difference between the pros and the amateurs, Ramunas Navardauskas was the last finisher on Mont Semnoz was still faster than the winner of the Etape du Tour, the cyclo event held on the same course two weeks ago. Navardauskas has been racing almost every day for the last three weeks.
http://inrng.com/

bahzob

FatTed wrote:

And if you want to know the difference between the pros and the amateurs, Ramunas Navardauskas was the last finisher on Mont Semnoz was still faster than the winner of the Etape du Tour, the cyclo event held on the same course two weeks ago. Navardauskas has been racing almost every day for the last three weeks.
http://inrng.com/

Yes I noticed that. It's a shame that is one of days with no data, my guess would be that in terms of power the front guys on the Etape would have produced higher numbers than Navardauskas but he went faster due to being pulled along by folks doing a lot more.

kettrinboy

Have a look at Laurens ten Dam of the Belkin teams data on Strava he,s put all the TDF 2013 stages on there, on most stages he doesnt even go into Z4 and on some not even Z3, incredible!http://app.strava.com/pros/186522