Anonymous Survey

MJLwhs

Hi Guys!

I am currently coming to the end of my IT course at college and as part of the unit i need to collect over 75 responses to my music piracy question. I figured that all the people are here a nice bunch! so i was hoping you could help me out by following the link below. Cheers!!!

P.S. All the data is completely anonymous, i don't ask for your name and the data will not be distributed to anyone else.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GSWSHKJ

Clank

Strongly suggest you do your research before spamming a forum with your coursework.

Here's something you'll need to learn before embarking on a career: yes, I do want fries with that.

bg13

Clank wrote:

Strongly suggest you do your research before spamming a forum with your coursework.

Here's something you'll need to learn before embarking on a career: yes, I do want fries with that.

Well said clank old chap!!! oh! can i have a big mac please you spotty herbert?

RevellRider

Third question in and I realised the OP is from the special school

3. Do you have internet access?
Yes
No

Wonder how many click on No?

Chunkers1980

I did, so at least one.

YeehaaMcgee

fukkoff.

Gazlar

MJLwhs wrote:

Hi Guys!
. I figured that all the people are here a nice bunch!

tlw1

Gazlar wrote:

MJLwhs wrote:

Hi Guys!
. I figured that all the people are here a nice bunch!

depends on where he normally surfs

unquestioned

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FishFish

I've answered it. I hope it helps.

homers_double

You don't get CC do you...

Thewaylander

Ok lets find this guy a suitable ditch...

I want the cash from selling his Kidney's!

cat_with_no_tail

"How many pieces of music have you downloaded illegally?"

"Potato"

It had to be done.

Clank

Cat With No Tail wrote:

"How many pieces of music have you downloaded illegally?"

"Potato"

It had to be done.

Smoooth! 8)

cat_with_no_tail

In all seriousness though, I use Zune/ Microsoft music these days (like a poor persons spotify). It's pretty good actually for finding new music and such.

I wonder what companies like spotify have done for music labels revenues. On one hand, I don't tend to buy albums anymore, as I pay a monthly fee instead for all the music I want. On the other hand, I don't pirate albums anymore either, yarrrr.

Yeehaa? Mule? You homos are pretty up on this kind of stuff, any ideas?

YeehaaMcgee

Spotify's great for both artists and record companies, since they get paid, and the users either get their unlimited music for free (supported by ads on spotify), or they pay a subscription, and can listen to anything they want.
Same with something like the Zune subscription, although there's no free (for the end user) option.

I find it curious that Zune has been doing the subscription music thing for a long while, whereas Google has recently started doing it, and even more recently, apple announced it - but guess who's getting all the publicity?

As a listener, I love the way spotify works, and I genuinely think it's easier to find music on it legally, than it is to pirate it. I also really like how it can send you down some interesting musical avenues to discover something new.

thekickingmule

Most labels are pretty screwed to be honest as they make so little money now through downloads. Even the big, major companies are struggling, but they do survive by having the big names and recording film soundtracks etc. Most musicians I know that are signed to labels seem to get a decent allowance, which they then plow back into their next abum, leaving them with barely any money.

The music industry didn't really see the internet as a threat when it first started up, which was a huge mistake in hindsight. Had they all come together and created their own version of iTunes in the early 2000's, then maybe things would be different. Sadly, i imagine in the future, most bands will be recorded in small studios (ie bedrooms) and everything will be downloaded (which is a travesty as the quality of downloads is disgusting quite frankly) or listened to on streaming sites.

Anyway, I should be doing work really, so that's just a brief (and possibly confusing) opinion of mine.

YeehaaMcgee

thekickingmule wrote:

The music industry didn't really see the internet as a threat when it first started up, which was a huge mistake in hindsight.

When exactly do you think the music industry started up?

Digital sales, and things like spotify are actually pretty good for most labels. Digital distribution cuts down the cost of duplication, storing, shipping, and logistics of selling a physical product.
On top of that, people end to impulse buy music more these days, from their phones, or tablets, so even though the revenue per sale is down, things are almost balancing out.

Album sales are suffering though, I'm led to believe. People are buying one song, instead of an album.
That's probably more of an issue for us oldies, who appreciate an album as a complete piece of work, not just a random collection of songs.

Chunkers1980

The internet, not the music industry.

thekickingmule

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

thekickingmule wrote:

The music industry didn't really see the internet as a threat when it first started up, which was a huge mistake in hindsight.

When exactly do you think the music industry started up?

I meant when the interweb started up.

I see what you're saying about digital sales and the less money involved with downloads, but then, as you said again, album sales are slowing up. This was where most money was made for labels, singles rarely made money but were done for publicity more than anything.

The thing is that if you're writing songs or albums that are going to be downloaded to phones, mp3 players etc. then the quality doesn't need to be as high. As a result, labels don't spend as much on the production, or the quality gear (or, as I said, more home recordings come out). If iTunes and others offered high quality recordings, maybe for a little extra money, I think I'd be happier, but I'm aware I'm in the minority and the majority don't know the difference between mp3, wav and flac.

To be honest, it's not something I've really looked into in the last 3 or 4 years, so things may have changed. Hopefully for the better.

YeehaaMcgee

thekickingmule wrote:

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

When exactly do you think the music industry started up?

I meant when the interweb started up.

:oops: I see

I genuinely think that there's been a decline in the quality of music on average, because of the availability of so much great home recording equipment.
Labels are less inclined to pay for a big studio, if the band can self-record at home, in hotel rooms and touring etc.

Now, there are a few people who excel at this, and do just great without requiring the guidance (or "outside ear") of a producer, or an engineer, but most, just don't get that same sheen by themselves.
That's not to say their music isn't any good, or not worthy, just that the production values may not be as high.
Musicianship is an art, as is song writing and singing. But producing and engineering are also arts unto themselves. Not everyone can master all of them.

pesky_jones

Cat With No Tail wrote:

Yeehaa? Mule? You homos are pretty up on this kind of stuff, any ideas?

That's the nicest way of calling someone a nerd that I have ever heard

cat_with_no_tail

Not so much calling them nerds (although they quite obviously are ) more just knowing they are both in some way involved in recording and such like.

thekickingmule

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

thekickingmule wrote:

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

When exactly do you think the music industry started up?

I meant when the interweb started up.

:oops: I see

I genuinely think that there's been a decline in the quality of music on average, because of the availability of so much great home recording equipment.
Labels are less inclined to pay for a big studio, if the band can self-record at home, in hotel rooms and touring etc.

Now, there are a few people who excel at this, and do just great without requiring the guidance (or "outside ear") of a producer, or an engineer, but most, just don't get that same sheen by themselves.
That's not to say their music isn't any good, or not worthy, just that the production values may not be as high.
Musicianship is an art, as is song writing and singing. But producing and engineering are also arts unto themselves. Not everyone can master all of them.

+ Potato!

EDIT: Actually, this reinforces an answer I gave at an interview I had. The question was "Where do you think the music industry is moving to in the future?" and I responded saying better equipment for the home user, and more home recordings etc.
Didn't get the job though :roll:

YeehaaMcgee

Maybe they were going to give you the job, but you made them realise the post was redundant
Most of our recording these days are big classical setups, which just aren't feasible in home studios. We also occasionally get a band using our studio to track drums, but then taking the multis home to overdub the rest of the arrangement. Drums are beyond most home studio setups for indie bands, and orchestras, well...!

Bread and butter work for us these days though, is TV dubbing. I think we're the only facility in the region at the moment with proper EBU\Dolby loudness metering, which is becoming a common requirement for broadcasters.

cooldad

thekickingmule wrote:

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

thekickingmule wrote:

The music industry didn't really see the internet as a threat when it first started up, which was a huge mistake in hindsight.

When exactly do you think the music industry started up?

I meant when the interweb started up.

Wasn't the industry all stoned at Woodstock around that time. No wonder they didn't notice.

thekickingmule

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

Maybe they were going to give you the job, but you made them realise the post was redundant
Most of our recording these days are big classical setups, which just aren't feasible in home studios. We also occasionally get a band using our studio to track drums, but then taking the multis home to overdub the rest of the arrangement. Drums are beyond most home studio setups for indie bands, and orchestras, well...!

Bread and butter work for us these days though, is TV dubbing. I think we're the only facility in the region at the moment with proper EBU\Dolby loudness metering, which is becoming a common requirement for broadcasters.

The minute I said it I wondered if I'd shot myself in the foot!

Yeah, classical is still after good quality places. It was something I tried doing, as I have all the location recording equipment, and a location with good acoustics, but I never got the time to set up any business model.
I thought it was TV/film stuff that was bringing in the money, at least there is a constant need from there. Don't suppose there's any jobs going at yours is there?

welshkev

a mate of mine is in aband and when he played me the track (without lyrics) it was superb..all made in his bedroom and then they went to a studio to record the lyrics. I couldn't believe the quality.

but then again it was only bass, synth and drums - he uses and electronic drum kit and I was sceptical at first but it sounded great

Gazlar

I miss the days when I was in a band and making records. My proudest moment was when my 12 inch was in the number 2 slot

pesky_jones

Gazlar wrote:

I miss the days when I was in a band and making records. My proudest moment was when my 12 inch was in the number 2 slot

:shock: You told me it was when I gave you your first trombone. Rusty as it was...

Gazlar

Pesky Jones wrote:

Gazlar wrote:

I miss the days when I was in a band and making records. My proudest moment was when my 12 inch was in the number 2 slot

:shock: You told me it was when I gave you your first trombone. Rusty as it was...

I was being kind, it was more a tarnished piccolo than rusty trombone