Campag Servicing!!

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  • Condor Production
    Condor Production Posts: 3
    Apologies on behalf of Condor that we have no free slots on a weekend before (we don't open Sunday).

    We have a small workshop. We would love to increase the size and workload, but at present it is just not possible. A few months back we were offering half price servicing to encourage as man as possible to get their bikes serviced before the spring rush(for those who don't do their own). Now the sun has come out(though its pouring with rain outside right now) we, like many other shops I'm sure have had a mad rush on servicing as everybody wants to get out on their bikes.

    It's a big problem for us as there are all these cyclists who want their bikes fixed, but we only have a limited capacity. Good mechanics are hard to find and ours are always flat out, usually repairing more than their already daily overbooked diary. We are not just interested in high end repairs and polishing bikes with expensive wax as bikes are booked in daily slots, all brands and type of bikes welcome. Of course, road bikes are our speciality so we are probably not the best store to bring in your downhill shocks as we tend not to stock the spares or have the expertise. As for Campagnolo, we were the first official ProShop when the scheme started, stock a huge amount of spares(not everything, but as much as some wholesalers) and have a vast amount of experience repairing ergopower levers.

    I hope you can get your bearings replaced. For best advice on home repair Campagnolo have some good videos on their website on how to repair certain parts like ergopower and bearings.

    Regards
  • NWLondoner
    NWLondoner Posts: 2,047
    Ben6899 wrote:
    Lunar Cycles in Kentish Town have the Campag UT bearing puller, if that's what you're after?


    Thanks for the heads up :D
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    You do need a proper bearing removal tool to get the U-T bearings off. Cycls and VAR make very good tools for this, better and more expensive than the Park tools. The more expensive bit is the problem though.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Condor Production wrote:
    Apologies on behalf of Condor that we have no free slots on a weekend before (we don't open Sunday).

    We have a small workshop. We would love to increase the size and workload, but at present it is just not possible. A few months back we were offering half price servicing to encourage as man as possible to get their bikes serviced before the spring rush(for those who don't do their own). Now the sun has come out(though its pouring with rain outside right now) we, like many other shops I'm sure have had a mad rush on servicing as everybody wants to get out on their bikes.

    It's a big problem for us as there are all these cyclists who want their bikes fixed, but we only have a limited capacity. Good mechanics are hard to find and ours are always flat out, usually repairing more than their already daily overbooked diary. We are not just interested in high end repairs and polishing bikes with expensive wax as bikes are booked in daily slots, all brands and type of bikes welcome. Of course, road bikes are our speciality so we are probably not the best store to bring in your downhill shocks as we tend not to stock the spares or have the expertise. As for Campagnolo, we were the first official ProShop when the scheme started, stock a huge amount of spares(not everything, but as much as some wholesalers) and have a vast amount of experience repairing ergopower levers.

    I hope you can get your bearings replaced. For best advice on home repair Campagnolo have some good videos on their website on how to repair certain parts like ergopower and bearings.

    Regards

    There is clearly a gap in the market for workshops in London... too many retailers, too few decent quality workshops...
    left the forum March 2023
  • menthel
    menthel Posts: 2,484
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Condor Production wrote:
    Apologies on behalf of Condor that we have no free slots on a weekend before (we don't open Sunday).

    We have a small workshop. We would love to increase the size and workload, but at present it is just not possible. A few months back we were offering half price servicing to encourage as man as possible to get their bikes serviced before the spring rush(for those who don't do their own). Now the sun has come out(though its pouring with rain outside right now) we, like many other shops I'm sure have had a mad rush on servicing as everybody wants to get out on their bikes.

    It's a big problem for us as there are all these cyclists who want their bikes fixed, but we only have a limited capacity. Good mechanics are hard to find and ours are always flat out, usually repairing more than their already daily overbooked diary. We are not just interested in high end repairs and polishing bikes with expensive wax as bikes are booked in daily slots, all brands and type of bikes welcome. Of course, road bikes are our speciality so we are probably not the best store to bring in your downhill shocks as we tend not to stock the spares or have the expertise. As for Campagnolo, we were the first official ProShop when the scheme started, stock a huge amount of spares(not everything, but as much as some wholesalers) and have a vast amount of experience repairing ergopower levers.

    I hope you can get your bearings replaced. For best advice on home repair Campagnolo have some good videos on their website on how to repair certain parts like ergopower and bearings.

    Regards

    There is clearly a gap in the market for workshops in London... too many retailers, too few decent quality workshops...

    Sounds like a good excuse to quit my job, train as a mechanic and open that cafe/bike repair shop in a nice place I know in Raynes Park! ;)
    RIP commute...
    Sometimes seen bimbling around on a purple Fratello Disc or black and red Aprire Vincenza.
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    I shlould move my shop really to big city bt that would mean mving house too. I love living in Glemsford.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    ajb72 wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    tomisitt wrote:
    Try Bike & Run in East Finchley...excellent service, good mechanics, lots of quality bikes for sale. They installed my Chorus 11 speed with Ultra-Torque, so they must have the right tools. And they're rarely so busy that they can't fit you in quite quickly. Recommended.

    The fitting and the bearings replacement require different tools...
    the only tool needed to install UT is a 10 mm Allen Key for the central bolt, on top of the tool to install the cups, which is the same as Shimano Hollowtech 2.
    Bearings replacement require a bearing extractor with very narrow claws that slide between the bearing and the crank arm... in practice the Park Tool one

    Not strictly true, you also need the instillation tool to do a proper job (no more than a weighted length of piping in reality!). Otherwise the bearings may not be seated correctly and can end up coming away in the cups, or worse in your frameset if you use press-fit. Still, it's a relatively cheap tool to buy compared with ongoing LBS costs every few years.

    I don't know what you are talking about, do you?
    http://www.parktool.com/blog/calvins-co ... cord-group

    Technically ajb is sort of correct but the aforementioned piece of glorified piping is supplied with the extractor anyway (at least it was with mine!).

    qkcbp3.jpg?width=800
    Faster than a tent.......
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Rolf F wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    ajb72 wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    tomisitt wrote:
    Try Bike & Run in East Finchley...excellent service, good mechanics, lots of quality bikes for sale. They installed my Chorus 11 speed with Ultra-Torque, so they must have the right tools. And they're rarely so busy that they can't fit you in quite quickly. Recommended.

    The fitting and the bearings replacement require different tools...
    the only tool needed to install UT is a 10 mm Allen Key for the central bolt, on top of the tool to install the cups, which is the same as Shimano Hollowtech 2.
    Bearings replacement require a bearing extractor with very narrow claws that slide between the bearing and the crank arm... in practice the Park Tool one

    Not strictly true, you also need the instillation tool to do a proper job (no more than a weighted length of piping in reality!). Otherwise the bearings may not be seated correctly and can end up coming away in the cups, or worse in your frameset if you use press-fit. Still, it's a relatively cheap tool to buy compared with ongoing LBS costs every few years.

    I don't know what you are talking about, do you?
    http://www.parktool.com/blog/calvins-co ... cord-group

    Technically ajb is sort of correct but the aforementioned piece of glorified piping is supplied with the extractor anyway (at least it was with mine!).

    qkcbp3.jpg?width=800

    don't think he's talking about that one... as it is not necessary for the installation of the chainset... not sure what he is talking about in fact, probably something for press fit bearings... an area I have not had the displeasure to explore yet
    left the forum March 2023
  • NWLondoner
    NWLondoner Posts: 2,047
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Condor Production wrote:
    Apologies on behalf of Condor that we have no free slots on a weekend before (we don't open Sunday).

    We have a small workshop. We would love to increase the size and workload, but at present it is just not possible. A few months back we were offering half price servicing to encourage as man as possible to get their bikes serviced before the spring rush(for those who don't do their own). Now the sun has come out(though its pouring with rain outside right now) we, like many other shops I'm sure have had a mad rush on servicing as everybody wants to get out on their bikes.

    It's a big problem for us as there are all these cyclists who want their bikes fixed, but we only have a limited capacity. Good mechanics are hard to find and ours are always flat out, usually repairing more than their already daily overbooked diary. We are not just interested in high end repairs and polishing bikes with expensive wax as bikes are booked in daily slots, all brands and type of bikes welcome. Of course, road bikes are our speciality so we are probably not the best store to bring in your downhill shocks as we tend not to stock the spares or have the expertise. As for Campagnolo, we were the first official ProShop when the scheme started, stock a huge amount of spares(not everything, but as much as some wholesalers) and have a vast amount of experience repairing ergopower levers.

    I hope you can get your bearings replaced. For best advice on home repair Campagnolo have some good videos on their website on how to repair certain parts like ergopower and bearings.

    Regards

    There is clearly a gap in the market for workshops in London... too many retailers, too few decent quality workshops...


    Well there is a good one in Ealing but they seem to concentrate more on bike fittings these days.
  • Coach H
    Coach H Posts: 1,092
    thecycleclinic wrote:
    You do need a proper bearing removal tool to get the U-T bearings off. Cycls and VAR make very good tools for this, better and more expensive than the Park tools. The more expensive bit is the problem though.


    Holy ******** I've just checked out the price of the VAR versions!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Look like a far better engineering solution than the Park but only for the very well off amateur mechanic
    Coach H. (Dont ask me for training advice - 'It's not about the bike')
  • bondurant
    bondurant Posts: 858
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    ajb72 wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    tomisitt wrote:
    Try Bike & Run in East Finchley...excellent service, good mechanics, lots of quality bikes for sale. They installed my Chorus 11 speed with Ultra-Torque, so they must have the right tools. And they're rarely so busy that they can't fit you in quite quickly. Recommended.

    The fitting and the bearings replacement require different tools...
    the only tool needed to install UT is a 10 mm Allen Key for the central bolt, on top of the tool to install the cups, which is the same as Shimano Hollowtech 2.
    Bearings replacement require a bearing extractor with very narrow claws that slide between the bearing and the crank arm... in practice the Park Tool one

    Not strictly true, you also need the instillation tool to do a proper job (no more than a weighted length of piping in reality!). Otherwise the bearings may not be seated correctly and can end up coming away in the cups, or worse in your frameset if you use press-fit. Still, it's a relatively cheap tool to buy compared with ongoing LBS costs every few years.

    I don't know what you are talking about, do you?
    http://www.parktool.com/blog/calvins-co ... cord-group

    Technically ajb is sort of correct but the aforementioned piece of glorified piping is supplied with the extractor anyway (at least it was with mine!).

    qkcbp3.jpg?width=800

    don't think he's talking about that one... as it is not necessary for the installation of the chainset... not sure what he is talking about in fact, probably something for press fit bearings... an area I have not had the displeasure to explore yet

    He's talking about this I think: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/campagnolo-ultra-torque-axle-bolt-tool/
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Bondurant wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    ajb72 wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    tomisitt wrote:
    Try Bike & Run in East Finchley...excellent service, good mechanics, lots of quality bikes for sale. They installed my Chorus 11 speed with Ultra-Torque, so they must have the right tools. And they're rarely so busy that they can't fit you in quite quickly. Recommended.

    The fitting and the bearings replacement require different tools...
    the only tool needed to install UT is a 10 mm Allen Key for the central bolt, on top of the tool to install the cups, which is the same as Shimano Hollowtech 2.
    Bearings replacement require a bearing extractor with very narrow claws that slide between the bearing and the crank arm... in practice the Park Tool one

    Not strictly true, you also need the instillation tool to do a proper job (no more than a weighted length of piping in reality!). Otherwise the bearings may not be seated correctly and can end up coming away in the cups, or worse in your frameset if you use press-fit. Still, it's a relatively cheap tool to buy compared with ongoing LBS costs every few years.

    I don't know what you are talking about, do you?
    http://www.parktool.com/blog/calvins-co ... cord-group

    Technically ajb is sort of correct but the aforementioned piece of glorified piping is supplied with the extractor anyway (at least it was with mine!).

    qkcbp3.jpg?width=800

    don't think he's talking about that one... as it is not necessary for the installation of the chainset... not sure what he is talking about in fact, probably something for press fit bearings... an area I have not had the displeasure to explore yet

    He's talking about this I think: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/campagnolo-ultra-torque-axle-bolt-tool/

    Nope, that's the 10 mm Allen Key I was talking about... just an extension as most Allen Key won't have the reach to get into the hole
    left the forum March 2023
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    NWLondoner wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Condor Production wrote:
    Apologies on behalf of Condor that we have no free slots on a weekend before (we don't open Sunday).

    We have a small workshop. We would love to increase the size and workload, but at present it is just not possible. A few months back we were offering half price servicing to encourage as man as possible to get their bikes serviced before the spring rush(for those who don't do their own). Now the sun has come out(though its pouring with rain outside right now) we, like many other shops I'm sure have had a mad rush on servicing as everybody wants to get out on their bikes.

    It's a big problem for us as there are all these cyclists who want their bikes fixed, but we only have a limited capacity. Good mechanics are hard to find and ours are always flat out, usually repairing more than their already daily overbooked diary. We are not just interested in high end repairs and polishing bikes with expensive wax as bikes are booked in daily slots, all brands and type of bikes welcome. Of course, road bikes are our speciality so we are probably not the best store to bring in your downhill shocks as we tend not to stock the spares or have the expertise. As for Campagnolo, we were the first official ProShop when the scheme started, stock a huge amount of spares(not everything, but as much as some wholesalers) and have a vast amount of experience repairing ergopower levers.

    I hope you can get your bearings replaced. For best advice on home repair Campagnolo have some good videos on their website on how to repair certain parts like ergopower and bearings.

    Regards

    There is clearly a gap in the market for workshops in London... too many retailers, too few decent quality workshops...


    Well there is a good one in Ealing but they seem to concentrate more on bike fittings these days.

    Or bullshxxing wealthy customers in other words...
    left the forum March 2023
  • bondurant
    bondurant Posts: 858
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Nope, that's the 10 mm Allen Key I was talking about... just an extension as most Allen Key won't have the reach to get into the hole

    Indeed. But since you hadn't specified anything beyond an allen key, this is the only thing left that he could have meant I would have thought...?
  • on-yer-bike
    on-yer-bike Posts: 2,974
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    NWLondoner wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Condor Production wrote:
    Apologies on behalf of Condor that we have no free slots on a weekend before (we don't open Sunday).

    We have a small workshop. We would love to increase the size and workload, but at present it is just not possible. A few months back we were offering half price servicing to encourage as man as possible to get their bikes serviced before the spring rush(for those who don't do their own). Now the sun has come out(though its pouring with rain outside right now) we, like many other shops I'm sure have had a mad rush on servicing as everybody wants to get out on their bikes.

    It's a big problem for us as there are all these cyclists who want their bikes fixed, but we only have a limited capacity. Good mechanics are hard to find and ours are always flat out, usually repairing more than their already daily overbooked diary. We are not just interested in high end repairs and polishing bikes with expensive wax as bikes are booked in daily slots, all brands and type of bikes welcome. Of course, road bikes are our speciality so we are probably not the best store to bring in your downhill shocks as we tend not to stock the spares or have the expertise. As for Campagnolo, we were the first official ProShop when the scheme started, stock a huge amount of spares(not everything, but as much as some wholesalers) and have a vast amount of experience repairing ergopower levers.

    I hope you can get your bearings replaced. For best advice on home repair Campagnolo have some good videos on their website on how to repair certain parts like ergopower and bearings.

    Regards

    There is clearly a gap in the market for workshops in London... too many retailers, too few decent quality workshops...


    Well there is a good one in Ealing but they seem to concentrate more on bike fittings these days.

    Or bullshxxing wealthy customers in other words...
    Paulo, you're getting very cynical. Nearly as bad as me.
    I get fed up with telling bike shops how to do things because Ive done the research and they havent.
    Pegoretti
    Colnago
    Cervelo
    Campagnolo
  • giant_man
    giant_man Posts: 6,878
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    NWLondoner wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Condor Production wrote:
    Apologies on behalf of Condor that we have no free slots on a weekend before (we don't open Sunday).

    We have a small workshop. We would love to increase the size and workload, but at present it is just not possible. A few months back we were offering half price servicing to encourage as man as possible to get their bikes serviced before the spring rush(for those who don't do their own). Now the sun has come out(though its pouring with rain outside right now) we, like many other shops I'm sure have had a mad rush on servicing as everybody wants to get out on their bikes.

    It's a big problem for us as there are all these cyclists who want their bikes fixed, but we only have a limited capacity. Good mechanics are hard to find and ours are always flat out, usually repairing more than their already daily overbooked diary. We are not just interested in high end repairs and polishing bikes with expensive wax as bikes are booked in daily slots, all brands and type of bikes welcome. Of course, road bikes are our speciality so we are probably not the best store to bring in your downhill shocks as we tend not to stock the spares or have the expertise. As for Campagnolo, we were the first official ProShop when the scheme started, stock a huge amount of spares(not everything, but as much as some wholesalers) and have a vast amount of experience repairing ergopower levers.

    I hope you can get your bearings replaced. For best advice on home repair Campagnolo have some good videos on their website on how to repair certain parts like ergopower and bearings.

    Regards

    There is clearly a gap in the market for workshops in London... too many retailers, too few decent quality workshops...


    Well there is a good one in Ealing but they seem to concentrate more on bike fittings these days.

    Or bullshxxing wealthy customers in other words...
    Oh so now you're an expert bike fitter as well as the leading authority on wheelbuilding, Y-A-W-N ...
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    giant man wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    NWLondoner wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Condor Production wrote:
    Apologies on behalf of Condor that we have no free slots on a weekend before (we don't open Sunday).

    We have a small workshop. We would love to increase the size and workload, but at present it is just not possible. A few months back we were offering half price servicing to encourage as man as possible to get their bikes serviced before the spring rush(for those who don't do their own). Now the sun has come out(though its pouring with rain outside right now) we, like many other shops I'm sure have had a mad rush on servicing as everybody wants to get out on their bikes.

    It's a big problem for us as there are all these cyclists who want their bikes fixed, but we only have a limited capacity. Good mechanics are hard to find and ours are always flat out, usually repairing more than their already daily overbooked diary. We are not just interested in high end repairs and polishing bikes with expensive wax as bikes are booked in daily slots, all brands and type of bikes welcome. Of course, road bikes are our speciality so we are probably not the best store to bring in your downhill shocks as we tend not to stock the spares or have the expertise. As for Campagnolo, we were the first official ProShop when the scheme started, stock a huge amount of spares(not everything, but as much as some wholesalers) and have a vast amount of experience repairing ergopower levers.

    I hope you can get your bearings replaced. For best advice on home repair Campagnolo have some good videos on their website on how to repair certain parts like ergopower and bearings.

    Regards

    There is clearly a gap in the market for workshops in London... too many retailers, too few decent quality workshops...


    Well there is a good one in Ealing but they seem to concentrate more on bike fittings these days.

    Or bullshxxing wealthy customers in other words...
    Oh so now you're an expert bike fitter as well as the leading authority on wheelbuilding, Y-A-W-N ...

    In the days nobody charged a penny to put you on the right bike and fettle with the seatpost and stem height... occasionally even building a frame on your size at no extra cost as everything was bespoke and everybody was happy and satisfied. Now turning a stem upside down and move a saddle backwards has become a profession and they charge three figures... if you think that's good and fair, then it must be... I am probably just old fashioned :wink:
    left the forum March 2023
  • ajb72
    ajb72 Posts: 1,178
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    ajb72 wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    tomisitt wrote:
    Try Bike & Run in East Finchley...excellent service, good mechanics, lots of quality bikes for sale. They installed my Chorus 11 speed with Ultra-Torque, so they must have the right tools. And they're rarely so busy that they can't fit you in quite quickly. Recommended.

    The fitting and the bearings replacement require different tools...
    the only tool needed to install UT is a 10 mm Allen Key for the central bolt, on top of the tool to install the cups, which is the same as Shimano Hollowtech 2.
    Bearings replacement require a bearing extractor with very narrow claws that slide between the bearing and the crank arm... in practice the Park Tool one

    Not strictly true, you also need the instillation tool to do a proper job (no more than a weighted length of piping in reality!). Otherwise the bearings may not be seated correctly and can end up coming away in the cups, or worse in your frameset if you use press-fit. Still, it's a relatively cheap tool to buy compared with ongoing LBS costs every few years.

    I don't know what you are talking about, do you?
    http://www.parktool.com/blog/calvins-co ... cord-group

    Technically ajb is sort of correct but the aforementioned piece of glorified piping is supplied with the extractor anyway (at least it was with mine!).

    qkcbp3.jpg?width=800

    don't think he's talking about that one... as it is not necessary for the installation of the chainset... not sure what he is talking about in fact, probably something for press fit bearings... an area I have not had the displeasure to explore yet

    This tool is precisely what I was referring to. You stated that installing the chainset only required an allen key and the tool to install the cups. However, the OP was inquiring about replacing bearings on a U/T chainset - I was merely pointing out the omission that he would need the additional tool. It's a shame you chose to be so condescending, but whatever makes you feel superior eh?
  • blablablacksheep
    blablablacksheep Posts: 1,377
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    giant man wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    NWLondoner wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Condor Production wrote:
    Apologies on behalf of Condor that we have no free slots on a weekend before (we don't open Sunday).

    We have a small workshop. We would love to increase the size and workload, but at present it is just not possible. A few months back we were offering half price servicing to encourage as man as possible to get their bikes serviced before the spring rush(for those who don't do their own). Now the sun has come out(though its pouring with rain outside right now) we, like many other shops I'm sure have had a mad rush on servicing as everybody wants to get out on their bikes.

    It's a big problem for us as there are all these cyclists who want their bikes fixed, but we only have a limited capacity. Good mechanics are hard to find and ours are always flat out, usually repairing more than their already daily overbooked diary. We are not just interested in high end repairs and polishing bikes with expensive wax as bikes are booked in daily slots, all brands and type of bikes welcome. Of course, road bikes are our speciality so we are probably not the best store to bring in your downhill shocks as we tend not to stock the spares or have the expertise. As for Campagnolo, we were the first official ProShop when the scheme started, stock a huge amount of spares(not everything, but as much as some wholesalers) and have a vast amount of experience repairing ergopower levers.

    I hope you can get your bearings replaced. For best advice on home repair Campagnolo have some good videos on their website on how to repair certain parts like ergopower and bearings.

    Regards

    There is clearly a gap in the market for workshops in London... too many retailers, too few decent quality workshops...


    Well there is a good one in Ealing but they seem to concentrate more on bike fittings these days.

    Or bullshxxing wealthy customers in other words...
    Oh so now you're an expert bike fitter as well as the leading authority on wheelbuilding, Y-A-W-N ...

    In the days nobody charged a penny to put you on the right bike and fettle with the seatpost and stem height... occasionally even building a frame on your size at no extra cost as everything was bespoke and everybody was happy and satisfied. Now turning a stem upside down and move a saddle backwards has become a profession and they charge three figures... if you think that's good and fair, then it must be... I am probably just old fashioned :wink:

    Agree with everything you said, your not old fashioned, they just getting ripped off/ stupid Lol

    Lbs I had used to rip you off for jobs and especially parts... It's closed down, and tbh good ridden, as if you can't get in touch with local community then you won't survive as a small business.

    The new lbs much better, willingness to match prices (many lbs won't do this thus r idiotic as you losing a sale which is worse than a tighter project margin)
    They also don't charge for silly things like ie adjusting brake or moving saddle ect.
    Biggest thing they actually care about your bike.

    Too many bike shops are" londonised" meaning they rip you off because idiots let them
    London2Brighton Challange 100k!
    http://www.justgiving.com/broxbourne-runners
  • gfk_velo
    gfk_velo Posts: 78
    We do a bearing replacement service for UT and generally turn around times are 2 - 3 days by post - not ideal because of the (ever increasing) costs of carriage, we know - but of course we can't really control that aspect ...

    Alternatively, check the list of correctly-equipped and properly trained shops at:
    http://www.velotech-cycling.ltd.uk/camp ... shop.shtml
    There may be one or two missing, but we do generally try to update the list as shops are accredited.

    With regard to the Park tool for refitting the UT bearings, we'd generally not recommend using a slide hammer (which is technically what their refitting tool is) but a press. Bearings in general do not like impact loads. VAR and Cyclus make very good tools for this, although we acknowledge both are relatively expensive - this is why we are working hard on the ProShop project, so that there should be a retailer within reach that is correctly trained and equipped to carry out repairs on Campagnolo product.

    Graeme - head tech, Velotech Cycling Ltd, Main Campagnolo-Appointed Service Centre, UK.
    Velotech Cycling Ltd - The Campagnolo Specialists since 1987
    :: GFK has been a Campagnolo SRL factory-trained and appointed technician in the UK since 2004 ::
    :: GFK has been Campagnolo SRL factory-accredited technical trainer since 2004 ::
    :: Velotech Cycling Ltd have been the UK's lead Appointed Service Centre since 2008 ::
  • NWLondoner
    NWLondoner Posts: 2,047
    Can i just give a BIG thumbs up to the guys at Lunar Cycles.

    A pleasure to do business with. A bike shop that actually WANTS to help and not just flog you a bike.

    Will be my LBS of choice from now on.

    I may now even have to like Rapha
  • sunburntknees
    sunburntknees Posts: 272
    Congrats on getting it sorted! Evans have done mine in the past. It's totally ridiculous that a big chain like CS say they don't have the tools!
  • gattonero
    gattonero Posts: 16
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    NWLondoner wrote:
    Arghhhhh

    It's bl@@dy Campag and they need a special tool to remove and reseat the bearings, which they don't have :shock: In fact of all the other place i tried only 1 does have the tool (Condor Cycles) but they have no weekend bookings until June :roll:

    That's ridiculous... it is a job that takes 20 minutes in total, I can't believe they can't find 20 minutes to do it until June... problem is they can't be bothered, as they prefer to take bookings for "de luxe services" where they lube the chain, visually inspect the bike and apply some Carnauba wax for 100 pounds a go...

    So you can't find a shop in central London who will replace UT bearings?

    Do you know this for sure, or you're just making assumptions?
    I've never seen "fancy" oil in that workshop, but the green Finish Line, and I know there's a lot more going on that just lube the chain during a service. Besides, I always see any kind of bikes including old Shoppers, so the "posh attitude" you're mentioning I'm sure is somewhere else and not in those mechanics.

    It doesn't give you credit to talk bad about people, when you've no idea what's involved in running a shop or a workshop.
    Yes, removing UT bearings takes 20 minutes, if the cranks are not on the bike (i.e. you don't have to clean, set the BB, check is all ok, the gears work, etc.) then it becomes a good 30 minutes.
    A different story from the one you've pictured, is it? :wink:
    Ciao!
    Andrea
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    gattonero wrote:

    Do you know this for sure, or you're just making assumptions?
    I've never seen "fancy" oil in that workshop, but the green Finish Line, and I know there's a lot more going on that just lube the chain during a service. Besides, I always see any kind of bikes including old Shoppers, so the "posh attitude" you're mentioning I'm sure is somewhere else and not in those mechanics.

    It doesn't give you credit to talk bad about people, when you've no idea what's involved in running a shop or a workshop.
    Yes, removing UT bearings takes 20 minutes, if the cranks are not on the bike (i.e. you don't have to clean, set the BB, check is all ok, the gears work, etc.) then it becomes a good 30 minutes.
    A different story from the one you've pictured, is it? :wink:

    I do know this for sure. I have had UT for 4 years... Removing and cleaning the crankset is 5-10 minutes... add another 10-15 to replace the bearings on the crank arms... it is really that easy, not sure what you are on about...
    left the forum March 2023
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    gattonero wrote:

    Do you know this for sure, or you're just making assumptions?
    I've never seen "fancy" oil in that workshop, but the green Finish Line, and I know there's a lot more going on that just lube the chain during a service. Besides, I always see any kind of bikes including old Shoppers, so the "posh attitude" you're mentioning I'm sure is somewhere else and not in those mechanics.

    It doesn't give you credit to talk bad about people, when you've no idea what's involved in running a shop or a workshop.
    Yes, removing UT bearings takes 20 minutes, if the cranks are not on the bike (i.e. you don't have to clean, set the BB, check is all ok, the gears work, etc.) then it becomes a good 30 minutes.
    A different story from the one you've pictured, is it? :wink:

    I do know this for sure. I have had UT for 4 years... Removing and cleaning the crankset is 5-10 minutes... add another 10-15 to replace the bearings on the crank arms... it is really that easy, not sure what you are on about...

    I whipped off and changed the non d/s bearing and refitted during a TdF ad break! The ads were still running when I had finished.
    Faster than a tent.......
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Rolf F wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    gattonero wrote:

    Do you know this for sure, or you're just making assumptions?
    I've never seen "fancy" oil in that workshop, but the green Finish Line, and I know there's a lot more going on that just lube the chain during a service. Besides, I always see any kind of bikes including old Shoppers, so the "posh attitude" you're mentioning I'm sure is somewhere else and not in those mechanics.

    It doesn't give you credit to talk bad about people, when you've no idea what's involved in running a shop or a workshop.
    Yes, removing UT bearings takes 20 minutes, if the cranks are not on the bike (i.e. you don't have to clean, set the BB, check is all ok, the gears work, etc.) then it becomes a good 30 minutes.
    A different story from the one you've pictured, is it? :wink:

    I do know this for sure. I have had UT for 4 years... Removing and cleaning the crankset is 5-10 minutes... add another 10-15 to replace the bearings on the crank arms... it is really that easy, not sure what you are on about...

    I whipped off and changed the non d/s bearing and refitted during a TdF ad break! The ads were still running when I had finished.

    I think our friend gattonero is on a trolling spree... in 10 years he posted 7 comments and all of them to revamp threads which are years old...
    left the forum March 2023
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    OK if I can hijack the thread a little bit. I bought a 2013 Focus with Chorus on it at the end of last year - haven't touched the bottom bracket yet but I normally service my race bike come the Autumn prior to putting it away for the Winter. Up until this bike I've been on square taper so all this press fit external bearing stuff is new to me.

    From this thread I'm guessing I need a long 10mm allen key (longer than I can pick up at a tool shop - do I need the extension off wiggle ?) and what else - is the Park Tool mentioned earlier OK or is there a better alternative still within a reasonable price range for a home mechanic ?

    Thanks
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    AFAIK the Park tool is the only reasonably priced one... but I might be wrong.
    left the forum March 2023
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    gfk_velo wrote:
    With regard to the Park tool for refitting the UT bearings, we'd generally not recommend using a slide hammer (which is technically what their refitting tool is) but a press. Bearings in general do not like impact loads.

    But the Park tool only contacts the inner bearing ring so the impact is only to that part of the bearing - surely it can't do much damage on that basis assuming you aren't bashing the hell out of it.

    And I really must give you a call about those bits!
    Faster than a tent.......
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    The park method works O.K I have tried it it has done no damage so long as you on tap on the inner race.

    A press is great but they are expensive. Posting the cranks to a good shop and postage back is quite expensive too which is why I never get cranks in the post. If you are going to do that you might as well buy the tools. These are freely available though but if you can get a shop with an I-ride account to order the cyclus tools these really are the best by a long way.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.

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