well you know how FATBIKES dont need suspension?

nicklouse

http://www.devisecycles.com/

right!

pesky_jones

There will be fatbikes 29er's before long

cooldad

'Mericans are funny.
But surely to be a proper Zeppelin they should use hydrogen in the tyres, and damn the torpedoes.

bennett_346

That must be a sod to pedal.

njee20

This is far cooler

pesky_jones

Are they actually selling those, i thought it was a one off type of thing.

warpcow

All of them seem to be custom builds so far, but Salsa have been playing with a prototype FS fatty for ages so a production model can't be far off (assuming they can see money in it).

nicklouse

njee20 wrote:

This is far cooler

mmm i have a spare set of them forks and a spare frame i could get a new swing arm made up....




nooooooo what am i thinking.

ring ring can i have a pair of rims and tyres please.

oh shhiiiit

IT66T

Well i can't see the point in one of these ;

Unless your planning on racing over really steep rocky terrain over a very long distance but their again it's amazing what people will believe they need just because they don't own one :shock: ..

The Northern Monkey

cyd190468 wrote:

If you want to ride motocross just go and do it. I also think that when I see guys plummet down the hill and then get off and push back up. If you're not going to ride up the hill you may as well fit a motor.

Never heard of downhill bikes then?

Sod riding a 40lb full bouncer with single ring a close range cassette back up a hill. I'd rather get on the bus.

The Rookie

Sliding pillar suspension - hope it works better than it did on Morgans!

Kowalski675

The Beginner wrote:

Sliding pillar suspension - hope it works better than it did on Morgans!

Sliding pillar? They're USD forks with a shroud over the stanchions (first time I've ever seen USD forks on pushbikes though).

rockmonkeysc

Kowalski675 wrote:

The Beginner wrote:

Sliding pillar suspension - hope it works better than it did on Morgans!

Sliding pillar? They're USD forks with a shroud over the stanchions (first time I've ever seen USD forks on pushbikes though).

There have been loads of USD mountain bike forks, they just never really caught on. Maybe something to do with oil spilling over your discs when the dust seals pop out of the uppers or stanchions getting damaged too easily.

nicklouse

Kowalski675 wrote:

The Beginner wrote:

Sliding pillar suspension - hope it works better than it did on Morgans!

Sliding pillar? They're USD forks with a shroud over the stanchions (first time I've ever seen USD forks on pushbikes though).

Where have you been hiding the lat 20 odd years?

Kowalski675

nicklouse wrote:

Kowalski675 wrote:

The Beginner wrote:

Sliding pillar suspension - hope it works better than it did on Morgans!

Sliding pillar? They're USD forks with a shroud over the stanchions (first time I've ever seen USD forks on pushbikes though).

Where have you been hiding the lat 20 odd years?

I'm new to MTBs, lol. I'm well used to USD forks on motorcycles (even own a couple of sets), but I'd never seen a motorcycle style USD fork / yoke setup on an MTB before.

Kowalski675

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Kowalski675 wrote:

The Beginner wrote:

Sliding pillar suspension - hope it works better than it did on Morgans!

Sliding pillar? They're USD forks with a shroud over the stanchions (first time I've ever seen USD forks on pushbikes though).

There have been loads of USD mountain bike forks, they just never really caught on. Maybe something to do with oil spilling over your discs when the dust seals pop out of the uppers or stanchions getting damaged too easily.

In the motorcycle world, USD forks originated in motocross, where their superior rigidity was worth their weight penalty, given the length of motocross forks, and the extreme uses they get put to (they're ubiquitous in the roadbike world now too, but that came about mainly due to fashion - Tadao Baba resisted the trend for a long time with his Fireblade designs, preferring to use a lighter RWU fork while all around were turning to USDs). I'd imagine that, in MTB use, the extra rigidity doesn't justify the weight penalty, and that would maybe be the reason they didn't take off?

.blitz

Must admit I've never felt the need to adjust the tyre pressures during a ride

http://www.devisecycles.com/#!about/ckpe

njee20

Marzocchi were trying to release an ultra lightweight USD fork in the late 90s - the RAC. It eventually came to market in a more burly 'freeride' guise, but they never succeeded in making it silly light! Plenty of dual crown DH USD forks.

tudj

There was a bloke at Antur Stiniog on a Fatbike (rigid) this weekend, what a mentalist! The tyres were too fat to fit on the uplift trailer so he had to stick it in the van, glad he wasn't on any of my lifts

Daz555

Kowalski675 wrote:

In the motorcycle world, USD forks originated in motocross, where their superior rigidity was worth their weight penalty, given the length of motocross forks, and the extreme uses they get put to (they're ubiquitous in the roadbike world now too, but that came about mainly due to fashion?

USDs reduce unsprung weight - critical for the handling of performance road bikes.

Kowalski675

Daz555 wrote:

USDs reduce unsprung weight

That's debatable - the knuckle and steel stanchion weigh more than the ally fork tube. USDs rise to ubiquity was down to fashion and marketing, more than any other reason.

Clank

Kowalski675 wrote:

The Beginner wrote:

Sliding pillar suspension - hope it works better than it did on Morgans!

Sliding pillar? They're USD forks with a shroud over the stanchions (first time I've ever seen USD forks on pushbikes though).

I think he was referring to the arse-end of the Devise, not the front.

Kowalski675

Clank wrote:

Kowalski675 wrote:

The Beginner wrote:

Sliding pillar suspension - hope it works better than it did on Morgans!

Sliding pillar? They're USD forks with a shroud over the stanchions (first time I've ever seen USD forks on pushbikes though).

I think he was referring to the arse-end of the Devise, not the front.

Ah, I see. Just looked at it again, that rear does look strange indeed. What's the bottle on the downtube? Has it got nitrous, lol?

Clank

Kowalski675 wrote:

Ah, I see. Just looked at it again, that rear does look strange indeed. What's the bottle on the downtube? Has it got nitrous, lol?

Centralised tyre inflation system, apparently!

Seriously!

So, yeah, you could fill it with nitrous. Be about the only laugh you'll get riding something that bloody heavy!

I search and I find a number of full-suss fat bikes have been tried - some of which are actually available (the Salsa one looks the best thought out)- all using conventional style rear ends, so I'm not sure what Devise were trying to achieve. .......Apart from making something that looks different for the sake of it.... and will be a little bit s**t!

Kowalski675

Clank wrote:

Kowalski675 wrote:

Ah, I see. Just looked at it again, that rear does look strange indeed. What's the bottle on the downtube? Has it got nitrous, lol?

Centralised tyre inflation system, apparently!

Seriously!

I use a footpump, much cheaper and simpler, lol.

cooldad

Kowalski675 wrote:

Clank wrote:

Kowalski675 wrote:

Ah, I see. Just looked at it again, that rear does look strange indeed. What's the bottle on the downtube? Has it got nitrous, lol?

Centralised tyre inflation system, apparently!

Seriously!

I use a footpump, much cheaper and simpler, lol.

Not while you're riding you don't.

Kowalski675

No, I got one of these for a tenner for that:

VWsurfbum

good luck using it while pedaling

Kowalski675

I'm not racing, I think I can afford to stop for a couple of minutes (and frequently need to anyway, lol).

bennett_346

Facepalm?

Kowalski675

Say what? :?: