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carbonscan
carbonscan Posts: 14
edited May 2013 in Training, fitness and health
building a gym at home and want to use a trainer with by bike, which are best kind, rollers or the turbo kind ?

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  • ric/rstsport
    ric/rstsport Posts: 681
    carbonscan wrote:
    building a gym at home and want to use a trainer with by bike, which are best kind, rollers or the turbo kind ?

    a massive motorised treadmill, that can be inclined and go to about 30 km/hr would be the best. I used to use the one at the university for lots of training and intervals. was great. bit pricey tho at ~£30K

    similar to this http://healthsciences.qmu.ac.uk/labweb/ ... admill.htm
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  • team47b
    team47b Posts: 6,425
    Get rollers to improve balance, pedaling technique, cadence etc and get a turbo for greater resistance training, if you can only have one perhaps rollers with resistance device and front bar, then you have the choice of mindless turbo or concentrated rollers in one.
    my isetta is a 300cc bike
  • cyco2
    cyco2 Posts: 593
    What ever you get make sure it has watts read out. Being able to see improvement in watt/time/cadence is so much better than relying on heart rate.
    ...................................................................................................

    If you want to be a strong rider you have to do strong things.
    However if you train like a cart horse you'll race like one.
  • carbonscan
    carbonscan Posts: 14
    talked to the mechanic at my LBS,he said to avoid turbos as they will damage my bike, so look's like the choice is made for me.
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    which rollers?
  • sloppyschleckonds
    sloppyschleckonds Posts: 8,019
    carbonscan wrote:
    talked to the mechanic at my LBS,he said to avoid turbos as they will damage my bike, so look's like the choice is made for me.
    NEW TOPIC
    which rollers?

    Ask your LBS mechanic.
    I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles
  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    Depends on your budget really as there are various options out there.

    This piece from BR should give you an idea and tips on training & the types of rollers from beginner friendly to expert;
    http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/t ... ers-28631/

    There are also some that have resistance built in (my do and are from Elite) & seem to be a few other options now coming into the roller market, but as above does depend upon your budget.
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • NeXXus
    NeXXus Posts: 854
    carbonscan wrote:
    talked to the mechanic at my LBS,he said to avoid turbos as they will damage my bike, so look's like the choice is made for me.
    NEW TOPIC
    which rollers?
    Frankly that is nonsense.
    And the people bowed and prayed, to the neon god they made.
  • ric/rstsport
    ric/rstsport Posts: 681
    carbonscan wrote:
    talked to the mechanic at my LBS,he said to avoid turbos as they will damage my bike, so look's like the choice is made for me.
    NEW TOPIC
    which rollers?

    change bike shops would be the answer to that
    Coach to Michael Freiberg - Track World Champion (Omnium) 2011
    Coach to James Hayden - Transcontinental Race winner 2017, and 2018
    Coach to Jeff Jones - 2011 BBAR winner and 12-hour record
    Check out our new website https://www.cyclecoach.com
  • carbonscan
    carbonscan Posts: 14
    my bike has carbon stays, which can be damaged by the unnatural forces placed on them in a turbo.
  • NeXXus
    NeXXus Posts: 854
    carbonscan wrote:
    my bike has carbon stays, which can be damaged by the unnatural forces placed on them in a turbo.
    Still pretty much nonsense.
    And the people bowed and prayed, to the neon god they made.
  • ric/rstsport
    ric/rstsport Posts: 681
    carbonscan wrote:
    my bike has carbon stays, which can be damaged by the unnatural forces placed on them in a turbo.

    my bike is full carbon, it goes on the turbo. it's fine. the only way a turbo can damage your frame is when you get so frustrated with it, you pick it up and smack against your bike.
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    Coach to James Hayden - Transcontinental Race winner 2017, and 2018
    Coach to Jeff Jones - 2011 BBAR winner and 12-hour record
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  • cyco2
    cyco2 Posts: 593
    You don't need to put a decent bike on a turbo trainer. Get some old bike bits or an old 'race' bike and remove the gears and go single speed. Make it to fit to you and leave it set up.
    ...................................................................................................

    If you want to be a strong rider you have to do strong things.
    However if you train like a cart horse you'll race like one.
  • twotyred
    twotyred Posts: 822
    a massive motorised treadmill, that can be inclined and go to about 30 km/hr would be the best. I used to use the one at the university for lots of training and intervals. was great. bit pricey tho at ~£30K

    I remember Brailsford using one of those on the Wiggins/Sky documentary.
    my bike has carbon stays, which can be damaged by the unnatural forces placed on them in a turbo.

    See above. This is bullplop.
  • carbonscan
    carbonscan Posts: 14
    so if I put a carbon stay bike in a turbo and aggressively climb or stand and sprint this is ok?
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    carbonscan wrote:
    so if I put a carbon stay bike in a turbo and aggressively climb or stand and sprint this is ok?

    If you want to get out of the saddle, try riding on the road. If you want to train at specific intensities, get a turbo.
  • sloppyschleckonds
    sloppyschleckonds Posts: 8,019
    Imposter wrote:
    carbonscan wrote:
    so if I put a carbon stay bike in a turbo and aggressively climb or stand and sprint this is ok?

    If you want to get out of the saddle, try riding on the road. If you want to train at specific intensities, get a turbo.

    I really admire your patience :wink:
    I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles
  • twotyred
    twotyred Posts: 822
    so if I put a carbon stay bike in a turbo and aggressively climb or stand and sprint this is ok?

    Well I don't sprint on the turbo (not sure you'd want to sprint on rollers either) but repeated v hard 30 sec intervals haven't broken any stays yet.

    Honestly if carbon composite bikes on turbos was a problem it would be all over the interweb by now.
  • markp80
    markp80 Posts: 444
    carbonscan wrote:
    building a gym at home and want to use a trainer with by bike, which are best kind, rollers or the turbo kind ?
    I'd suggest a turbo, ANT+ speed/cadence/heart rate, linked to a laptop and a subscription to TrainerRoad. Using a setup like this has meant the turbo never feels boring to me, and you can monitor your progress.

    MarkP
    Boardman Road Comp - OK, I went to Halfords
    Tibia plateau fracture - the rehab continues!
  • Garryboy
    Garryboy Posts: 344
    I have turbo and rollers - have used my carbon frame on both for over a year - no problems.

    I like the rollers better, mainly because I find them less boring. Mine are cyclops (made by sportcrafters) and you can get a version with a progressive resistance roller (you can switch this on/off). I have this and means you can do hard interval sessions on the rollers - or switch it off (involves reversing the roller) and spin away.

    They are also supported in TrainerRoad, so you can use with that + sufferfest etc etc.

    I still use the turbo for really intense intervals - the ones were I know I would fall off if I did them on rollers!
  • edten
    edten Posts: 228
    +1 rollers for me too. I have both, turbo is 'more' boring. Smaller drum rollers are fine for higher intensity stuff. I have the kreitlers, they're great but expensive. I like just picking the bike up and jumping on the rollers, no faff with skewers (yeah okay its not a huge hassle). you can do out the saddle sprint on rollers, i occasionally do but its not the safest. Out the saddle sprints on a turbo not a good idea either but as one other posted get on the road for that kind of stuff.
  • carbonscan
    carbonscan Posts: 14
    OK for the 2 months were I am indoors and based on the input I received from numerous sources i think im going to go with a turbo,
  • Frank the tank
    Frank the tank Posts: 6,553
    carbonscan wrote:
    talked to the mechanic at my LBS,he said to avoid turbos as they will damage my bike, so look's like the choice is made for me.
    NEW TOPIC
    which rollers?
    LOB fella.

    Loadofbollocks in other words.
    Tail end Charlie

    The above post may contain traces of sarcasm or/and bullsh*t.

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