Four Days of Dunkirk

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  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    2nd G Soupe FDJ
    3rd R Sinkledam ARG
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • esafosfina1
    esafosfina1 Posts: 153
    Good stage that... perfect lead out for Demare. Shame the race has taken a 'down-grade'... it used to be one of my favourite stage-races (Rode it 89,90,91... perfect for a rider of my style... not many climbs! :D )... never understood why it was called 4 days when it was actually 6 days and 8 stages!
  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    TBF he could looked strong enough to have not needed the lead out was very impressive
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • esafosfina1
    esafosfina1 Posts: 153
    Danlikesbikes wrote:
    TBF he could looked strong enough to have not needed the lead out was very impressive

    +1 Also good to see Soupe not sit up after his lead-out was done and hang onto 2nd... far too many lead-out riders come off the gas these days.
  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    Yeah - I don't understand that. With points being important for teams/rides, I would have thought trying to cling on would be at the top of everyone's mind. Perhaps they are trying to show their bosses that they have "given their all" for their sprinters and have nothing left.
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  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    edited May 2013
    Soupe's mad strong. He took a third in the Giro last year after Demare lost his wheel in a crash . That's strong for a lead out man to hang on. Then this year - forgot the race he took Demare half way up the peloton in the last km and Demare took a second to Sagan . The throw Bouhanni in there - not bad for a small team . Bouhanni looks more the pure sprinter to me - Demare could develop into a very useful rider

    Soupes 25 and Demare and Bouhanni are both 22!
  • knedlicky
    knedlicky Posts: 3,097
    esafosfina1 wrote:
    never understood why it was called 4 days when it was actually 6 days and 8 stages!
    It was originally 4 days when first created in the mid-50s. When it went up a day in the early 60s, they never made the name keep pace, nevermind when it went to 6 days.
  • esafosfina1
    esafosfina1 Posts: 153
    mroli wrote:
    Yeah - I don't understand that. With points being important for teams/rides, I would have thought trying to cling on would be at the top of everyone's mind. Perhaps they are trying to show their bosses that they have "given their all" for their sprinters and have nothing left.

    It was a given (ok, 20-odd years ago...) that if you lead out and were still 'there and there-abouts' you kept on the gas... like you say, with points at stake, and the chance (however small) that your designated sprinter may get DQ-ed or worse, crash, you'd still get a reasonable placing... that ethos put me in a points jersey on more than one occasion.
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    esafosfina1 wrote:
    it used to be one of my favourite stage-races (Rode it 89,90,91... perfect for a rider of my style... not many climbs! :D )...
    In retrospect, I've decided that it was your heavy shoes that compromised your climbing prowess.

    Now that's clarified, let us not talk of it again.
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    esafosfina1 wrote:
    Good stage that... perfect lead out for Demare. Shame the race has taken a 'down-grade'... it used to be one of my favourite stage-races (Rode it 89,90,91... perfect for a rider of my style... not many climbs! :D )... never understood why it was called 4 days when it was actually 6 days and 8 stages!
    Ha, just missed you as I became a regular visitor 92 to 99 and then I gave myself a rucking for being a sad fart for keep going in Commonwealth Graves and tracking the World War 1 history.
    In those early 90's the race would wander into Picardie for Amiens or St Quentin.

    From my understanding from the locals.
    The Winter Indoor races were (are) known as 6 day races and so to save confusion they named this a 4 day race, still confused, you will be. :wink:
    Stage 3 > Oignies - Liévin 179.10 kilometer
    Stage results
    1. DEMARE Arnaud FDJ 04:24:18
    2. SOUPE Geoffrey FDJ 00:00:00
    3. SINKELDAM Ramon ARG 00:00:00
    4. VAN HUMMEL Kenny Robert VCD 00:00:00
    5. VAN STAEYEN Michael TSV 00:00:00
    6. VON HOFF Steele GRS 00:00:00
    7. DUMOULIN Samuel ALM 00:00:00
    8. HINAULT Sébastien IAM 00:00:00
    9. SISKEVICIUS Evaldas SAU 00:00:00
    10. PETIT Adrien COF 00:00:00

    General classification after stage 3 Result
    1 Arnaud Demare (Fra) FDJ 12:15:23
    2 Ramon Sinkeldam (Ned) Team Argos-Shimano 0:00:16
    3 Kenny Van Hummel (Ned) Vacansoleil - DCM Procycling Team 0:00:20
    4 Florian Vachon (Fra) Bretagne Séché Environnement 0:00:22
    5 Geoffrey Soupe (Fra) FDJ 0:00:24
    6 Flavien Dassonville (Fra) Big Mat - Auber 93 0:00:25
    7 Evaldas Siskevicius (Ltu) Sojasun 0:00:26
    8 Adrien Petit (Fra) Cofidis, Solutions Crédits 0:00:27
    9 Yves Lampaert (Bel) Topsport Vlaanderen - Baloise 0:00:29
    10 Romain Hardy (Fra) Cofidis, Solutions Crédits
    11 Michael Van Staeyen (Bel) Topsport Vlaanderen - Baloise 0:00:30
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • specialgueststar
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  • esafosfina1
    esafosfina1 Posts: 153
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    esafosfina1 wrote:
    it used to be one of my favourite stage-races (Rode it 89,90,91... perfect for a rider of my style... not many climbs! :D )...
    In retrospect, I've decided that it was your heavy shoes that compromised your climbing prowess.

    Now that's clarified, let us not talk of it again.

    I never thought of that factor as an excuse before... but I like it and will now be using it. Just think, with lighter shoes my power would have been 6.2 w/kg... easily! :wink:
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    edited May 2013
    Makes a change.

    Stage 4 > Lens - Parc Départemental d'Olhain 176.50 kilometer
    Stage results
    1. KREDER Michel GRS 04:40:30
    2. VACHON Florian BSE 00:00:00
    3. EL FARES Julien SAU 00:00:00
    4. DUMOULIN Samuel ALM 00:00:00
    5. DEMARE Arnaud FDJ 00:00:00
    6. HINAULT Sébastien IAM 00:00:00
    7. ELMIGER Martin IAM 00:00:00
    8. FONSECA Armindo BSE 00:00:00
    9. VENTER Jacobus MTN 00:00:10
    10. SINKELDAM Ramon ARG 00:00:10
    11. QUEMENEUR Perrig EUC 00:00:15
    12. SISKEVICIUS Evaldas SAU 00:00:15
    General Classification
    1. DEMARE Arnaud FDJ 16:55:53
    2. VACHON Florian BSE 00:00:16
    3. KREDER Michel GRS 00:00:20
    4. SINKELDAM Ramon ARG 00:00:26
    5. EL FARES Julien SAU 00:00:26
    6. FONSECA Armindo BSE 00:00:30
    7. DUMOULIN Samuel ALM 00:00:30
    8. HINAULT Sébastien IAM 00:00:30
    9. ELMIGER Martin IAM 00:00:30
    10. SOUPE Geoffrey FDJ 00:00:31
    11. VENTER Jacobus MTN 00:00:40
    12. SISKEVICIUS Evaldas SAU 00:00:41
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    It was weird to see them racing on roads I've ridden (lived there for a time), I even broke my collarbone near the r'bouts at the end.

    I miss that area, the terrils, les coron, les Ch'tis, it was just a lovely place to live
  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    Am I the only one that has found this race a little bit dull?
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  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    Some of the early stages were a little, however with a number of lower level teams think that when the attacks came & there were plenty of them, they tended to get pretty far & was not certain that they would be brought back.
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    Paul 8v wrote:
    Am I the only one that has found this race a little bit dull?
    Yes of course it is when sitting in a chair with other sports to choose.
    I might add that as usual the camera work was Awfull and they make cycle racing Boring.
    As I said earlier they usually make Saturday the most interesting for attacking and I caught up with the highlights last night and thought it to be a good race through the woods that I'm unfamiliar with.
    The Stage appeared to be quite Hilly and TakeTheHighRoad knows those roads so I might be wrong.

    Compared with the Pro Tour "Tour Down Under" then I cannot see much difference and next week you will have all the excitement you need with the California Tour. (I am familiar with a lot of that one)

    Stage 5 > Estaires - Dunkerque 163.80 kilometer
    Stage result
    1. MARTINEZ Yannick LPM 03:41:28
    2. FRIEDEMANN Matthias CSS 00:00:00
    3. DRUJON Benoit AUB 00:00:00
    4. PETIT Adrien COF 00:00:00
    5. VAN HUMMEL Kenny Robert VCD 00:00:00
    6. VAN DIJK Stefan AJW 00:00:00
    7. SINKELDAM Ramon ARG 00:00:00
    8. VAN POPPEL Danny VCD 00:00:00
    9. AVERY Clinton Robert CSS 00:00:00
    10. VANBILSEN Kenneth TSV 00:00:00
    11. REIMER Martin MTN 00:00:00
    12. VAN STAEYEN Michael TSV 00:00:00
    13. KREDER Raymond GRS 00:00:00
    14. PEETERS Kevin LAN 00:00:00
    15. FONSECA Armindo BSE 00:00:00
    16. TULIK Angelo EUC 00:00:00
    17. DEMARE Arnaud FDJ 00:00:00

    Overall GC and Winner is the same as GC yesterday
    1. DEMARE Arnaud FDJ
    2. VACHON Florian BSE 00:00:16
    3. KREDER Michel GRS 00:00:20
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972

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