Weight Obsession

cycleclinic

Go on weight weenies. a 4.9kg bike there is considered only quite light. There is lighter. There is one guy Donald with a front wheel that weighs less 300g that he says he rides alot. Not sre how that works bt I'll leave it to him.

wellbeloved747

carrock wrote:

wellbeloved747 wrote:

My current Venge is 4.9kg )

:shock:

Are you sure?

Totally,
venge frame
Madfiber wheelset
Di2 with carbon shifters,rear mech and front mech and carbon battery casing.
Carbon cranks with carbon chainrings.

Why do you think not?

carrock

I have an s works roubaix that weighs a smidgen under 7 kg with fulcrum zero wheels that weigh about 1450g, and carbon cranks.

I simply can't see where else to save 2.5kg from, and more to the point why would anyone want to.

Seat, seatpost, wheels and handlebars are weight bearing components, and as such strength would be compromised shaving weight from these components, so for a 50 kg rider competing in hill climbs I can just about see the point. For a 16 stone dentist spending £10k to have a lighter bike than everyone else, well I don't see the point to be honest.

wellbeloved747

i believe the wheels are 1085 grams
the group set weigh about 1200 grams
and the cranks with the chainrings are about 900 grams

carrock

wellbeloved747 wrote:

i believe the wheels are 1085 grams
the group set weigh about 1200 grams
and the cranks with the chainrings are about 900 grams

Crank weight seems heavy at 900g, id say more like 700g but di2 group set without cranks weighs 1700g according to shimano

Frame module is about 1830g for s works venge 56 inc seatpost according to bikerumour.

So frame 1830
Group 2400 inc cranks
Wheels. 1085
Tyres 400
Tubes 150
Bars. 180
Saddle. 180
Bar tape 50

Well over 6kg there, which is pretty much as I suspected.

The venge frame simply is not light enough for a sub 5 kilo bike.

Simply can t see how you get to even sub 6 kg to be honest....perhaps your scales need calibrated.

I would guess you aren't heavy riding those wheels though.....must be an 80 kg weight limit at most

itsnotarace

wellbeloved747 wrote:

carrock wrote:

wellbeloved747 wrote:

My current Venge is 4.9kg )

:shock:

Are you sure?

Totally,
venge frame
Madfiber wheelset
Di2 with carbon shifters,rear mech and front mech and carbon battery casing.
Carbon cranks with carbon chainrings.

Why do you think not?

Show us a pic of your Venge Di2 on Madfibres, with a handwritten note saying "BikeRadar 2013" and a loaf of bread resting on the saddle

goonz

itsnotarace wrote:

wellbeloved747 wrote:

carrock wrote:

wellbeloved747 wrote:

My current Venge is 4.9kg )

:shock:

Are you sure?

Totally,
venge frame
Madfiber wheelset
Di2 with carbon shifters,rear mech and front mech and carbon battery casing.
Carbon cranks with carbon chainrings.

Why do you think not?

Show us a pic of your Venge Di2 on Madfibres, with a handwritten note saying "BikeRadar 2013" and a loaf of bread resting on the saddle

Glad it was just a loaf of bread! :shock:

thegreatdivide

carrock wrote:

wellbeloved747 wrote:

i believe the wheels are 1085 grams
the group set weigh about 1200 grams
and the cranks with the chainrings are about 900 grams

Crank weight seems heavy at 900g, id say more like 700g but di2 group set without cranks weighs 1700g according to shimano

Frame module is about 1830g for s works venge 56 inc seatpost according to bikerumour.

So frame 1830
Group 2400 inc cranks
Wheels. 1085
Tyres 400
Tubes 150
Bars. 180
Saddle. 180
Bar tape 50

Well over 6kg there, which is pretty much as I suspected.

The venge frame simply is not light enough for a sub 5 kilo bike.

Simply can t see how you get to even sub 6 kg to be honest....perhaps your scales need calibrated.

I would guess you aren't heavy riding those wheels though.....must be an 80 kg weight limit at most

This.

My bike:

Wilier Cento Uno with integrated seatpost – size 52
Zipp 303 FC tubs
2012 Campagnolo Super Record – so a feck load lighter than DA Di2
Ritchey carbon stem and EvoCurve bars
Keo Blade Ti pedals
Vittoria Corsa tubs
San Marco Concor Racing saddle
Fizik Microtex tape
2 x Tacx Tao cages

Weighs in about 6.3kg

Your Venge is not 4.9kg – Cav’s is about 7kg for start and his frame is tiny!

limoneboy

Charlie Potatoes wrote:

Wirral_Paul wrote:

Am i alone there?

No 8)

No. i also agree , people who buy Ferrari's are not F1 drivers , they just have the money to buy something they wish for ,people who buy range rovers dont drive off road 95% of the time , its the same with bikes ,buy what you canafford get pleasure not only from riding it but also upgrading and looking at it

i ride a Oltre, UCI pro i am not, but i look at it every night before i go to bed and smile.

carrock

considering matey was " totally sure" his Venge was 4.9kg he has gone awfully quiet in the face of indisputable evidence to the contrary.

perhaps he has gone to fill his inner tubes with helium.

itsnotarace

carrock wrote:

perhaps he has gone to fill his inner tubes with helium.

His profile says he's 15. The only Venge Di2 with Madfibres he's got is the one he's dreaming about when his mum calls him down for his cornflakes

itsnotarace

wellbeloved747 wrote:

My current Venge is 4.9kg and it helps through the constant hills of Devon and Cornwall my Allez is about 10Kg so during the winter i do the work and build everything up (winter training)

Quoted for posterity

wellbeloved747

carrock wrote:

considering matey was " totally sure" his Venge was 4.9kg he has gone awfully quiet in the face of indisputable evidence to the contrary.

perhaps he has gone to fill his inner tubes with helium.

Ha sorry, had re-xrays for my broken arm.

saddle is a carbon sheet at 55 grams
and they are tubless
and the cranks includes a pair of speedplays

thegreatdivide

You just posted on the Which Depth thread when i called you out...

by wellbeloved747 » Fri Apr 5, 2013 12:45 pm

4.5kg without any wheels, cassette, chain or a chainset!

and there are s lot of hills but then there are also a lot of down hills. when finished i will think it will weigh about 4-8kg, am going to look at some C50s today!

I'd step away from your PC for a bit lad. You're making yourself look like a bit of a t1t ;-)

wellbeloved747

Just been out and weighed it, it's 6.4kg with wheels and 4.9kg without.

God I feel like a T**t, sorry

thegreatdivide

wellbeloved747 wrote:

Just been out and weighed it, it's 6.4kg with wheels and 4.9kg without.

God I feel like a T**t, sorry

You do know that it's possible to see every single post a member has ever made on Bike Radar don't you? I'm happy to let you dig that hole a wee bit deeper but it's going to get embarrassing soon...

carrock

Well done for admitting your mistake.

To be fair, you had a few of us scratching our heads a bit.

Still a hellishly light bike that you wouldn't be allowed in a UCI race.

55 grams for saddle is just about plausible, although it is a quarter of the weight of my Toupe pro.

Does it have rails or is it one of those new fangled ones that levitates on an electro magnetic forcefield controlled by a rare earth magnet in the seatpost.....just wondering

carrock

itsnotarace wrote:

carrock wrote:

perhaps he has gone to fill his inner tubes with helium.

His profile says he's 15. The only Venge Di2 with Madfibres he's got is the one he's dreaming about when his mum calls him down for his cornflakes

Ah but he plays badminton for the county and sails for Team GB.

How many 15 year olds are there who have a Venge I wonder?

goonz

He also has a contract with Sky so spends an abnormal amount of time on here asking questions about kit when surely his Sky teammates would be better placed to answer...

carrock

perhaps in his second life he has an avatar who is a team sky rider with a 4.9kg venge.

In our reality, Team Sky ride Pinarello, but in a second life, anything is possible.....

goonz

Damn we are a cynical lot!

itsnotarace

wellbeloved747 wrote:

Just been out and weighed it, it's 6.4kg with wheels and 4.9kg without.

Still awaiting that photo with loaf of bread on the saddle and handwritten note that says "Bikeradar 2013"

carrock

itsnotarace wrote:

wellbeloved747 wrote:

Just been out and weighed it, it's 6.4kg with wheels and 4.9kg without.

Still awaiting that photo with loaf of bread on the saddle and handwritten note that says "Bikeradar 2013"

He's off to ask Dave Brailsford to borrow his laptop and copy of Photoshop XVI

ilm_zero7

weight, weight , weight - why the madness - I have only weighed the bike once in ready to ride trim 6.3kg - why weight it again?

wellbeloved747

At least I know that I am welcomed

limoneboy

thegreatdivide wrote:

You just posted on the Which Depth thread when i called you out...

by wellbeloved747 » Fri Apr 5, 2013 12:45 pm

4.5kg without any wheels, cassette, chain or a chainset!

and there are s lot of hills but then there are also a lot of down hills. when finished i will think it will weigh about 4-8kg, am going to look at some C50s today!

I'd step away from your PC for a bit lad. You're making yourself look like a bit of a t1t ;-)

+1 - and Carbon DI2 really !!!

sloppyschleckonds

wellbeloved747 wrote:

At least I know that I am welcomed

Keep yer chin up lad.
Do you have any expensive watches or drink fine wines?

Gren82

itsnotarace wrote:

wellbeloved747 wrote:

Just been out and weighed it, it's 6.4kg with wheels and 4.9kg without.

Still awaiting that photo with loaf of bread on the saddle and handwritten note that says "Bikeradar 2013"

White or brown bread?

charlie_potatoes

itsnotarace wrote:

wellbeloved747 wrote:

Just been out and weighed it, it's 6.4kg with wheels and 4.9kg without.

Still awaiting that photo with loaf of bread on the saddle and handwritten note that says "Bikeradar 2013"

Are they the rules?

On Pistonheads it's a can of custard on the Dasboard

FransJacques

1.5 kgs for a set of ready-to-ride wheels? you're talking:
- 2 x wheels (that's front AND rear)
- 2 x skewers
- 1 x cassette + lockring (at least 8-9 cogs, preferably 10 or 11)
- 2 x tubs/glue or tyres/tubes/rim tape?

They had better be lighweights, winiums, Neutrons, Zipp 202 tubs, Easton EC90 low pros or AC Magnesiums. Anything else that's not a renowned light wheel and I'm skeptical.

Look at the typical weights of just a rear wheel in C+ and you'll see that most fall in the 1400 - 1700 range.