How do you pronounce cadence?

CleeRider

Kay-dense - sounds very American, or Ca-dense?
I've always avoided it in cycling conversation in case I get it wrong lol

napoleond

Ka-denché, it's Italian.

pride4ever

WOW thread.

desweller

Kaa-deens; don't ask.

extrusion

Well that's that cleared up then!

redvee

Sean Kelly is the man to see for pronounciation of cycling terms. I'm tempted to get Carlton Kirby to ask him to say 'Irish Wristwatch' during one of their TdF chats.

CiB

Arrr Peee Emmm.

Grill

Jesus. If anyone says "Ca-dense" to me I may very well fall off my bike laughing.

I have a friend that pronounces "cache" as kay-che. Makes me want to smack him in the mouth.

greensum

KAY Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be) :roll:

chrisaonabike

Grill wrote:

I have a friend that pronounces "cache" as kay-che. Makes me want to smack him in the mouth.

I would. No one that knows what a cache is, should be allowed to pronounce it 'kaysh', and be allowed to live.

Grill

ChrisAOnABike wrote:

Grill wrote:

I have a friend that pronounces "cache" as kay-che. Makes me want to smack him in the mouth.

I would. No one that knows what a cache is, should be allowed to pronounce it 'kaysh', and be allowed to live.

Seriously? If they don't know what it is why are they using the word in the first place? I don't understand why people choose to stay ignorant when it's so easy to educate yourself...

team47b

cadência

gethinceri

Chardenker, everybody knows that.

xchudy_1325

no idea but i say "kay-dense" dunno if its right or wrong but that works for me lol

team47b

xchudy_1325 wrote:

no idea but i say "kay-dense" dunno if its right or wrong but that works for me lol

yep, correct english pronunciation

giant_man

why is this being questioned? It's hardly hard to pronounce ...

chrisaonabike

giant man wrote:

why is this being questioned? It's hardly hard to pronounce ...

So because you know, that makes it wrong for someone else to ask?

It's not as stupid a question as some seem to think.

So for sure, cadence in English is pronounced with a long 'a' (as in kay), and emphasis on the first syllable. Other two syllable words with similar pronunciation would be prudence or credence.

However, it's related to the word cadenza (an unaccompanied, and historically improvised, section in a concerto played by the soloist). Cadenza is pronounced with a short 'a', and the emphasis on the second syllable (so, kuh-den-za, not kay-den-za).

The trouble with English is that the pronunciation and spelling rules have a lot of exceptions. Respect to the OP for having the guts to ask.

giant_man

why? are people actually stupid?

seriously, how hard can it be. No I don't respect the OP, cos it's a foolish question to ask, cos its definitely one of the easier cycling terms to pronounce. The english spelling has no accents or circumflex on any of the characters, so where is the problem here. The musical term is cadentia derived from the latin name, but that's not what we're talking about.

edten

giant man wrote:

why? are people actually stupid?

seriously, how hard can it be. No I don't respect the OP, cos it's a foolish question to ask, cos its definitely one of the easier cycling terms to pronounce. The english spelling has no accents or circumflex on any of the characters, so where is the problem here. The musical term is cadentia derived from the latin name, but that's not what we're talking about.

Jeeze, chill. I'm sure you love it up there but please take your head out of your anus.

chrisaonabike

giant man wrote:

why? are people actually stupid?

Something that actually is stupid, is confusing not knowing something (no matter how unusual it might be not to know it) with being stupid.

I sure hope you're not a teacher. The musical term is cadenza, by the way - there's no English word cadentia.

greggbaker

giant man wrote:

why? are people actually stupid?

seriously, how hard can it be. No I don't respect the OP, cos it's a foolish question to ask, cos its definitely one of the easier cycling terms to pronounce. The english spelling has no accents or circumflex on any of the characters, so where is the problem here. The musical term is cadentia derived from the latin name, but that's not what we're talking about.

The only thing stupid on this thread is the way you are reacting to the question. If you know then good for you, ignore and carry on but no you have to become abusive. It's in the beginner's section so maybe think a little before having a pop. I really hope you are as your name suggests a giant man because with your attitude I'd be surprised if you're not put on your backside quite regularly. Have a lovely Easter. Xx

team47b

giant man wrote:

The english spelling has no accents or circumflex on any of the characters, so where is the problem here.

Accents are there to tell you where precisely to put the emphasis, so it would in fact be easier to know how to pronounce if there were accents not more difficult as you suggest.

This is why English pronunciation has to be learnt and why people have to ask for guidance.

napoleond

Or look in the dictionary.

danlikesbikes

giant man wrote:

why? are people actually stupid?

seriously, how hard can it be. No I don't respect the OP, cos it's a foolish question to ask, cos its definitely one of the easier cycling terms to pronounce. The english spelling has no accents or circumflex on any of the characters, so where is the problem here. The musical term is cadentia derived from the latin name, but that's not what we're talking about.

Clearly it is hard or the question would not have been asked?

Plus whilst you are I assume English & this is your first language it could well be that the OP is not and English might therefore be a first language.

There are several words that people, myself included, either currently do not know how to pronounce, or may well be unsure of;
Nike - with or without the E on end
Porche - as above
Siobhan - as a name I struggled with this
Gaspare - my Scillian colleagues name that people often ask for Mr.G.A.Spare without knowing its all one "Gas Par E"

Not all people are made the same & thats why in the beginners section people are encouraged to ask questions no matter how silly others find them.

declan1

Danlikesbikes wrote:

giant man wrote:

why? are people actually stupid?

seriously, how hard can it be. No I don't respect the OP, cos it's a foolish question to ask, cos its definitely one of the easier cycling terms to pronounce. The english spelling has no accents or circumflex on any of the characters, so where is the problem here. The musical term is cadentia derived from the latin name, but that's not what we're talking about.

Clearly it is hard or the question would not have been asked?

Plus whilst you are I assume English & this is your first language it could well be that the OP is not and English might therefore be a first language.

There are several words that people, myself included, either currently do not know how to pronounce, or may well be unsure of;
Nike - with or without the E on end
Porche - as above
Siobhan - as a name I struggled with this
Gaspare - my Scillian colleagues name that people often ask for Mr.G.A.Spare without knowing its all one "Gas Par E"

Not all people are made the same & thats why in the beginners section people are encouraged to ask questions no matter how silly others find them.

I pronounce Nike as if it rhymes with 'Dyke'.
Porsche as 'Porsh'.
Siobhan as 'Shivvon'.

I have no idea whether or not my pronunciations of Nike and Porsche are correct, but that's the way I like to say them. Same with Peugeot, which I pronounce 'Purr - show' (nearest word I could find :P ).

danlikesbikes

declan1 wrote:

I pronounce Nike as if it rhymes with 'Dyke'.
Porsche as 'Porsh'.
Siobhan as 'Shivvon'.

I have no idea whether or not my pronunciations of Nike and Porsche are correct, but that's the way I like to say them. Same with Peugeot, which I pronounce 'Purr - show' (nearest word I could find :P ).

Sorry wasn't trying to say there was a right or wrong way as I know some people do the first 2 with or without the E, but the others I mentioned really only have 1 correct way (as do cadence I guess?) & that people should show some restraint in the beginners sections of BR.

Could easily be a question over the francofile words used in cycling too.

declan1

Danlikesbikes wrote:

declan1 wrote:

I pronounce Nike as if it rhymes with 'Dyke'.
Porsche as 'Porsh'.
Siobhan as 'Shivvon'.

I have no idea whether or not my pronunciations of Nike and Porsche are correct, but that's the way I like to say them. Same with Peugeot, which I pronounce 'Purr - show' (nearest word I could find :P ).

Sorry wasn't trying to say there was a right or wrong way as I know some people do the first 2 with or without the E, but the others I mentioned really only have 1 correct way (as do cadence I guess?) & that people should show some restraint in the beginners sections of BR.

Could easily be a question over the francofile words used in cycling too.

I know, I was just saying how I pronounce them

wellbeloved747

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imposter2.0

Ha - a question about english pronunciation in a cycling forum - love it. Next week - how to spell 'tyre' - or is it 'tire' ??

rolf_f

giant man wrote:

why? are people actually stupid?

seriously, how hard can it be. No I don't respect the OP, cos it's a foolish question to ask, cos its definitely one of the easier cycling terms to pronounce. The english spelling has no accents or circumflex on any of the characters, so where is the problem here.

Oh, come on. Be nice. It isn't a term in mainstream English use. Wilier and Campagnolo, for example, have no obvious clues that they are not pronounced as obviously as they are spelled.

giant man wrote:

The musical term is cadentia derived from the latin name, but that's not what we're talking about.

Errrrrrr, yes it is.

Oxford Dictionaries online wrote:

Origin:
late Middle English (in the sense 'rhythm or metrical beat'): via Old French from Italian cadenza, based on Latin cadere 'to fall'

Imposter wrote:

Ha - a question about english pronunciation in a cycling forum - love it. Next week - how to spell 'tyre' - or is it 'tire' ??

Pfft! Lets have none of this Yankee nonsense on here. There's no i in tyre!

laurentian

I reminded of the Chinese Proverb:

"He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever."