it is like saying to do you prefer the 1st half or 2nd half of a football match, you probably say 2nd half but you need the 1st half to set the 2nd up, Roubaix give those you missed out in Flanders a second shot, and the winner than chance to become a legend
PR all day of the week, more for the brutality of it, and the constant effort.
Whereas in RVV there is a chance for a rest from time to time, at the less crucial moments of PR you're still riding along, positioning yourself for the next cobbles.
Flanders. The bergs are more recognisable and are more obvious when they arrive. You only really get the kind of excited build up like you get for a proper berg with the Arenberg. The rest is more attritional in Roubaix. I like the natural highlightsthe bergs bring.
The bergs are more recognisable and are more obvious when they arrive. You only really get the kind of excited build up like you get for a proper berg with the Arenberg.
Maybe you just don't know the Roubaix route well enough!
But it has to be Roubaix. Lots of other races that are a bit like Flanders, nothing quite like Roubaix.
De Ronde all the way. It normally is a more interesting race, Roubaix often mainly attrition, and there's more local passion and anticipation around De Ronde. A nation's biggest sporting event of the year. Paris-Roubaix isnt bad though
De Ronde all the way. It normally is a more interesting race, Roubaix often mainly attrition, and there's more local passion and anticipation around De Ronde. A nation's biggest sporting event of the year. Paris-Roubaix isnt bad though
I was going to say Roubaix, but on reading this post I don't know...
Just leaning toward Roubaix.
It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
But only because I'm still bitter about the removal of the Muur.
Two real Monuments so my vote is 50/50 except the current RVV has been watered down with no Muur and the smooth Koppenberg.
Why don't they run over the Koppenberg on their way to the finish.
Much as I like to see the Kruisberg in there (It's not that big) but then twice over the Hotond and the long "Free Wheel" down the new Kwaremont to Bercham with only the old Kwaremont and Paterberg and the 10 mile flat finish.
The P-R misses some hard Pave they used to move over near Lille Airport (I doubt they have had Tarmac) so I hope it rains with a North wind. :twisted:
De Ronde all the way. It normally is a more interesting race, Roubaix often mainly attrition, and there's more local passion and anticipation around De Ronde. A nation's biggest sporting event of the year. Paris-Roubaix isnt bad though
I was going to say Roubaix, but on reading this post I don't know...
Just leaning toward Roubaix.
Without wishing to incite the whole Belgium/Flanders, etc, thing - Would it swing things back to RVV to point out that the Belgians are who I think come to mind for most people when the topic of The Northen Classics are mentioned - not the French? The Belgians and the Sussexians - Wincanton Classic, innit!
Personally, much as I love PR, a race has got to have proper hills in it to get top slot...
Since watching "a Sunday in hell", roubaix. It appeals to me in the same way ironman and ultra marathons do; it's not so much who's fastest, it's who's toughest.
Any race where 4 sky riders can lose out to one Belgian is a bit special.
But only because I'm still bitter about the removal of the Muur.
Two real Monuments so my vote is 50/50 except the current RVV has been watered down with no Muur and the smooth Koppenberg.
Why don't they run over the Koppenberg on their way to the finish.
Much as I like to see the Kruisberg in there (It's not that big) but then twice over the Hotond and the long "Free Wheel" down the new Kwaremont to Bercham with only the old Kwaremont and Paterberg and the 10 mile flat finish.
The P-R misses some hard Pave they used to move over near Lille Airport (I doubt they have had Tarmac) so I hope it rains with a North wind. :twisted:
and there's more local passion and anticipation around De Ronde. A nation's biggest sporting event of the year.
Half Nation = Flanders and the other half in two weeks Wallonne
many Flemish would consider Flanders a nation. Or, at least when England, Scotland and Wales are nations, they are too... Agree with the impact of taking De Muur out
I voted Roubaix, just for that iconic helicopter shot of the trench cutting through the Arenberg forest, and the anticipation / excitement / fear as they approach that section. The most exciting 5 minutes of every cycling season, bar none.
I voted Roubaix, just for that iconic helicopter shot of the trench cutting through the Arenberg forest, and the anticipation / excitement / fear as they approach that section. The most exciting 5 minutes of every cycling season, bar none.
But only because I'm still bitter about the removal of the Muur.
Two real Monuments so my vote is 50/50 except the current RVV has been watered down with no Muur and the smooth Koppenberg.
Why don't they run over the Koppenberg on their way to the finish.
Much as I like to see the Kruisberg in there (It's not that big) but then twice over the Hotond and the long "Free Wheel" down the new Kwaremont to Bercham with only the old Kwaremont and Paterberg and the 10 mile flat finish.
The P-R misses some hard Pave they used to move over near Lille Airport (I doubt they have had Tarmac) so I hope it rains with a North wind. :twisted:
and there's more local passion and anticipation around De Ronde. A nation's biggest sporting event of the year.
Half Nation = Flanders and the other half in two weeks Wallonne
many Flemish would consider Flanders a nation. Or, at least when England, Scotland and Wales are nations, they are too... Agree with the impact of taking De Muur out
It does have a very provincial feel to it, which can be a bit polarising.
I voted Roubaix, just for that iconic helicopter shot of the trench cutting through the Arenberg forest, and the anticipation / excitement / fear as they approach that section. The most exciting 5 minutes of every cycling season, bar none.
More exciting than the Pogio?
Hell yeah. Dunno why but MSR has never really floated my boat.
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This week I'd choose de ronde, but next week PR.
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Whereas in RVV there is a chance for a rest from time to time, at the less crucial moments of PR you're still riding along, positioning yourself for the next cobbles.
I did used to live in Lens though so I'm biased
Maybe you just don't know the Roubaix route well enough!
But it has to be Roubaix. Lots of other races that are a bit like Flanders, nothing quite like Roubaix.
Please explain why.
if I really,really had to maybe PR
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OK smarty pants. Roubaix for the race, Flanders for the overall experience.
I was going to say Roubaix, but on reading this post I don't know...
Just leaning toward Roubaix.
Why don't they run over the Koppenberg on their way to the finish.
Much as I like to see the Kruisberg in there (It's not that big) but then twice over the Hotond and the long "Free Wheel" down the new Kwaremont to Bercham with only the old Kwaremont and Paterberg and the 10 mile flat finish.
The P-R misses some hard Pave they used to move over near Lille Airport (I doubt they have had Tarmac) so I hope it rains with a North wind. :twisted:
Half Nation = Flanders and the other half in two weeks Wallonne
Without wishing to incite the whole Belgium/Flanders, etc, thing - Would it swing things back to RVV to point out that the Belgians are who I think come to mind for most people when the topic of The Northen Classics are mentioned - not the French? The Belgians and the Sussexians - Wincanton Classic, innit!
Personally, much as I love PR, a race has got to have proper hills in it to get top slot...
Any race where 4 sky riders can lose out to one Belgian is a bit special.
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More exciting than the Pogio?
It does have a very provincial feel to it, which can be a bit polarising.
??? Looks pretty cobbled to me.
Hell yeah. Dunno why but MSR has never really floated my boat.