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RVV v Roubaix

RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,501
edited April 2013 in Pro race
Simple poll.

Which is your favourite?

Ronde Van Vlaanderen or Paris-Roubaix?

If you could keep only one.
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RVV or Roubaix 53 votes

Ronde van Vlaanderen
41% 22 votes
Paris-Roubaix
58% 31 votes
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  • slimreaperslimreaper Posts: 738
    That's like asking to choose between your kids.
    Hmmm.... small cross one or stroppy older one?
    This week I'd choose de ronde, but next week PR.
  • patchypatchy Posts: 779
    P-R. But only because I'm still bitter about the removal of the Muur.
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  • RVV mainly as I like hills.
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  • ozzzyosborn206ozzzyosborn206 Posts: 1,340
    it is like saying to do you prefer the 1st half or 2nd half of a football match, you probably say 2nd half but you need the 1st half to set the 2nd up, Roubaix give those you missed out in Flanders a second shot, and the winner than chance to become a legend
  • ddraverddraver Posts: 23,220
    slimreaper wrote:
    That's like asking to choose between your kids.
    Hmmm.... small cross one or stroppy older one?
    This week I'd choose de ronde, but next week PR.

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  • PR all day of the week, more for the brutality of it, and the constant effort.

    Whereas in RVV there is a chance for a rest from time to time, at the less crucial moments of PR you're still riding along, positioning yourself for the next cobbles.

    I did used to live in Lens though so I'm biased
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 57,443 Lives Here
    Flanders. The bergs are more recognisable and are more obvious when they arrive. You only really get the kind of excited build up like you get for a proper berg with the Arenberg. The rest is more attritional in Roubaix. I like the natural highlightsthe bergs bring.
  • The bergs are more recognisable and are more obvious when they arrive. You only really get the kind of excited build up like you get for a proper berg with the Arenberg.

    Maybe you just don't know the Roubaix route well enough! :D

    But it has to be Roubaix. Lots of other races that are a bit like Flanders, nothing quite like Roubaix.
  • thomthomthomthom Posts: 3,574
    Roubaix is the better race in every parameter imo. Especially after the new Flanders course. Still a great race, mind you.
  • Monty DogMonty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Roubaix, particularly since the revised RvV course still looks like it needs some work.
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  • inkyfingersinkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Roubaix is the toughest, which gives it a certain cachet, but I get more excited about de Ronde. Don't ask me to explain why.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 57,443 Lives Here
    Roubaix is the toughest, which gives it a certain cachet, but I get more excited about de Ronde. Don't ask me to explain why.


    Please explain why.
  • cal_stewartcal_stewart Posts: 1,840
    rich this is a hacking question.

    if I really,really had to maybe PR
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  • inkyfingersinkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Roubaix is the toughest, which gives it a certain cachet, but I get more excited about de Ronde. Don't ask me to explain why.


    Please explain why.

    OK smarty pants. Roubaix for the race, Flanders for the overall experience.
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  • FJSFJS Posts: 4,820
    De Ronde all the way. It normally is a more interesting race, Roubaix often mainly attrition, and there's more local passion and anticipation around De Ronde. A nation's biggest sporting event of the year. Paris-Roubaix isnt bad though :wink:
  • TommyB61TommyB61 Posts: 103
    RVV....by half a wheel.
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,720
    FJS wrote:
    De Ronde all the way. It normally is a more interesting race, Roubaix often mainly attrition, and there's more local passion and anticipation around De Ronde. A nation's biggest sporting event of the year. Paris-Roubaix isnt bad though :wink:

    I was going to say Roubaix, but on reading this post I don't know...

    Just leaning toward Roubaix.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • deejaydeejay Posts: 3,138
    patchy wrote:
    But only because I'm still bitter about the removal of the Muur.
    Two real Monuments so my vote is 50/50 except the current RVV has been watered down with no Muur and the smooth Koppenberg.
    Why don't they run over the Koppenberg on their way to the finish.
    Much as I like to see the Kruisberg in there (It's not that big) but then twice over the Hotond and the long "Free Wheel" down the new Kwaremont to Bercham with only the old Kwaremont and Paterberg and the 10 mile flat finish.

    The P-R misses some hard Pave they used to move over near Lille Airport (I doubt they have had Tarmac) so I hope it rains with a North wind. :twisted:
    FJS wrote:
    and there's more local passion and anticipation around De Ronde. A nation's biggest sporting event of the year.
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  • ocdupalaisocdupalais Posts: 3,947
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    FJS wrote:
    De Ronde all the way. It normally is a more interesting race, Roubaix often mainly attrition, and there's more local passion and anticipation around De Ronde. A nation's biggest sporting event of the year. Paris-Roubaix isnt bad though :wink:

    I was going to say Roubaix, but on reading this post I don't know...

    Just leaning toward Roubaix.

    Without wishing to incite the whole Belgium/Flanders, etc, thing - Would it swing things back to RVV to point out that the Belgians are who I think come to mind for most people when the topic of The Northen Classics are mentioned - not the French? The Belgians and the Sussexians - Wincanton Classic, innit!

    Personally, much as I love PR, a race has got to have proper hills in it to get top slot...
  • shinyhelmutshinyhelmut Posts: 1,350
    Since watching "a Sunday in hell", roubaix. It appeals to me in the same way ironman and ultra marathons do; it's not so much who's fastest, it's who's toughest.

    Any race where 4 sky riders can lose out to one Belgian is a bit special. :wink:
  • FJSFJS Posts: 4,820
    deejay wrote:
    patchy wrote:
    But only because I'm still bitter about the removal of the Muur.
    Two real Monuments so my vote is 50/50 except the current RVV has been watered down with no Muur and the smooth Koppenberg.
    Why don't they run over the Koppenberg on their way to the finish.
    Much as I like to see the Kruisberg in there (It's not that big) but then twice over the Hotond and the long "Free Wheel" down the new Kwaremont to Bercham with only the old Kwaremont and Paterberg and the 10 mile flat finish.

    The P-R misses some hard Pave they used to move over near Lille Airport (I doubt they have had Tarmac) so I hope it rains with a North wind. :twisted:
    FJS wrote:
    and there's more local passion and anticipation around De Ronde. A nation's biggest sporting event of the year.
    Half Nation = Flanders and the other half in two weeks Wallonne
    many Flemish would consider Flanders a nation. Or, at least when England, Scotland and Wales are nations, they are too... Agree with the impact of taking De Muur out
  • afx237viafx237vi Posts: 12,630
    I voted Roubaix, just for that iconic helicopter shot of the trench cutting through the Arenberg forest, and the anticipation / excitement / fear as they approach that section. The most exciting 5 minutes of every cycling season, bar none.
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,676
    Has Flanders always been before Roubaix on the calendar?
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 57,443 Lives Here
    afx237vi wrote:
    I voted Roubaix, just for that iconic helicopter shot of the trench cutting through the Arenberg forest, and the anticipation / excitement / fear as they approach that section. The most exciting 5 minutes of every cycling season, bar none.

    More exciting than the Pogio?
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 57,443 Lives Here
    FJS wrote:
    deejay wrote:
    patchy wrote:
    But only because I'm still bitter about the removal of the Muur.
    Two real Monuments so my vote is 50/50 except the current RVV has been watered down with no Muur and the smooth Koppenberg.
    Why don't they run over the Koppenberg on their way to the finish.
    Much as I like to see the Kruisberg in there (It's not that big) but then twice over the Hotond and the long "Free Wheel" down the new Kwaremont to Bercham with only the old Kwaremont and Paterberg and the 10 mile flat finish.

    The P-R misses some hard Pave they used to move over near Lille Airport (I doubt they have had Tarmac) so I hope it rains with a North wind. :twisted:
    FJS wrote:
    and there's more local passion and anticipation around De Ronde. A nation's biggest sporting event of the year.
    Half Nation = Flanders and the other half in two weeks Wallonne
    many Flemish would consider Flanders a nation. Or, at least when England, Scotland and Wales are nations, they are too... Agree with the impact of taking De Muur out

    It does have a very provincial feel to it, which can be a bit polarising.
  • EKIMIKEEKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    deejay wrote:
    smooth Koppenberg.

    ??? Looks pretty cobbled to me.
  • afx237viafx237vi Posts: 12,630
    afx237vi wrote:
    I voted Roubaix, just for that iconic helicopter shot of the trench cutting through the Arenberg forest, and the anticipation / excitement / fear as they approach that section. The most exciting 5 minutes of every cycling season, bar none.

    More exciting than the Pogio?

    Hell yeah. Dunno why but MSR has never really floated my boat.
  • After today's shower of a race I think PR has this in the bag
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