Typical newbie...
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So, what's the point in the forum? For discussion. That's what I'm after. Instead, I get another post telling me to choose without input from the forum. So far, one member has been really helpful. The 2 most recent posts would rather critique my decision making skills, rather than the bikes I put in front of them.
As I stated, I've been out the game a while, and making a fairly significant purchase and commitment. I'm seeking as many opinions as possible to make an informed decision. Silly remarks aren't helpful.
Have you got something to contribute about the Cube v the Hoodoo or an alternative at £600?
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this one http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m1b0s2p4207/CUBE-LTD-2012 great spec for the money in my opinionMasterYoda wrote:Have you got something to contribute about the Cube v the Hoodoo or an alternative at £600?-
as "sonic" said when asked about it in another thread
a cube ltd 2012 for 599.99 not sure about recon silver air fork anyone got onesupersonic wrote:Good fork, good deal.
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Am alot like yourself, am all new to the mountain biking, well i took the plunge last week and bought a Voodoo Bantu. Am no pro but money well spent and my advice wud be save a little longer for the Bantu0
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Thanks chez, I hadn't spotted that recommendation in another thread. Will let you know how I get on.
bond-007 - I know about the Bantu, but it isn't as good as the Hoodoo or the Cube, so sort of ruled that out for the minute!0 -
Do I need a shock pump? One of these suitable? http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00486G5HE/r ... wo=&hvqmt=0
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Yep and yep.0
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bond-007 - I know about the Bantu, but it isn't as good as the Hoodoo or the Cube, so sort of ruled that out for the minute![/quote]
Sorry i thought you were on a £350 budget0 -
Sorry for butting in here chaps but would that pump do me aswell ?0
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When I was dealing purely in cash, I was. The 0% finance allows me to put down a huge deposit with a small additional payment each month. This lets me get more with the wife (well, not in that sense)!0
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Damn, came across another two at £100 less than the Cube LTD 2012.
Marin Hawk Hill Bike (2011)
Frame: 6061 Aluminium, Double Butted Hydro-Edge II Top and Down Tubes, E4 Anti-Flex Seat and Chain Stays
Fork: SR Sun Tour Raidan LOD, 100mm, with Preload, Lockout and Rebound Adjustment,
Cranks: FSA Dynadrive, 44/32/22
Bottom Bracket: Sealed Cartridge
Pedals: Composite with Alloy Cage
Front Derailleur: SRAM X-5
Rear Derailleur: SRAM X-5
Shifters: SRAM X-5, 9 Speed Trigger
Cassette: SRAM PG-950, Power Glide II, 11-34, 9 Speed
Chain: Shimano HG53
Front Hub: Alloy Double Sealed, 32 Hole Disc with Locking QR
Rear Hub: Alloy Double Sealed, 32 Hole Disc with QR
Rims: WTB DX23, Double Wall, 32 Hole Disc
Front Tyre: Continental Mountain King, 26” x 2.2”
Rear Tyre: Continental Mountain King, 26” x 2.2”
Front Brake: Avid Juicy 3 Hydraulic Disc with 6” Rotor
Rear Brake: Avid Juicy 3 Hydraulic Disc with 6” Rotor
Brake Levers: Avid Hydraulic Disc
Handlebar: Double Butted 6061 Alloy, OS-31.8mm, 25.4mm Rise
Headset: 1 1/8” Semi Integrated Threadless
Stem: Marin OS Alloy Threadless with 31.8mm Bar Clamp
Grips: Marin Dual Density
Saddle: WTB Silverado Sport with Comfort Zone
Seat Post: Comp Alloy Micro Adjust, 30.9mm x 400mm
£499.
Marin Bobcat Trail 2012 Bike
Frame: 6061 Aluminium, Double Butted Hydro-Edge II Top and Down Tubes, E4 Anti-Flex Seat and Chain Stays
Fork: Rock Shox 28 TK, 100mm with HC2 Damping and Preload Adjustment
Cranks: FSA Dynadrive, 44/32/22
Bottom Bracket: Sealed Cartridge
Pedals: Composite
Front Derailleur: Shimano Acera 9-Speed
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Alivio, 9 Speed
Shifters: Shimano Acera Rapid Fire Plus, 9 Speed
Cassette: Shimano HG30, 11-34, 9 Speed
Chain: Shimano HG53
Front Hub: Alloy Double Sealed, 32 Hole Disc
Rear Hub: Alloy Double Sealed, 32 Hole Disc with Locking QR
Rims: WTB SX17, Double Wall, 32 Hole Disc
Tyres: Continental X-King, 26" x 2.2"
Front Brake: Shimano M445 Hydraulic Disc, 6" Rotor
Rear Brake: Shimano M445 Hydraulic Disc
Brake Levers: Shimano M445 Hydraulic Disc
Handlebar: Double Butted 6061 Alloy, OS-31.8mm, 25.4mm Rise
Headset: FSA No.10, 1 1/8", Threadless Internal Bearing
Stem: Marin OS Alloy Threadless, 31.8mm Bar Clamp
Grips: Marin Dual Density
Saddle: WTB Silverado Sport
Seat Post: Alloy 2-Bolt Micro Adjust, 30.9mm x 400mm
£487.
Cube LTD 2012 (still winning, I think):
Frame Alu Superlite AMF 6061 Double Butted, RFR-Geometry, Disc only
Forks Rock Shox Recon TK Air, 100mm, Poploc
Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore XT RD-M780 Shadow 10-speed
Front Derailleur Shimano Deore FD-M590, Top Swing 34,9mm, 10-speed
Shifters Shimano Deore SL-M591, Rapidfire-Plus, 10-speed
Chainset Shimano FC-M552 2-Piece 42x32x24T, 175mm, integrated BB, 3x10 speed
Headset FSA No.10 semi-integrated
Stem Easton EA30 Oversized
Handlebars Easton EA30 Lowriser Oversized
Front Brake Formula RX hydr. discbrake (180mm)
Rear Brake Formula RX hydr. discbrake (160mm)
Rims Alex ZX 24
Front Hub Shimano HB-M475 Disc
Rear Hub Shimano FH-M475 Disc
Spokes DT Industry
Tyres Front Tyre: Schwalbe Rapid Rob Performance 2.25
Rear Tyre: Schwalbe Rapid Rob Performance 2.25
Innertubes: Impac AV14
Saddle Selle Italia X1
Seatpost Easton EA30 31,6mm
Seatclamp: Scape Varioclose 34.9mm
Pedals Fasten Alu
Grips CUBE Performance Grip
£599.
bond-007 - what type of fork do you have?0 -
What ever comes standard on the Bantu, suntour but thats all i know lol0
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As far as I can tell, the Bantu has this fork: 120mm Suntour Raidon air suspension fork with lockout.
I think the pump I linked to will do you fine.0 -
Get the Cube. There are 100s of bikes in this price range, need to make a decision! The cube has the best fork and parts. It is worth the premium.0
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Sonic, you're back!
Thanks. The Cube it is. Only problem is I can't find a dealer in my area who has one to test. I think the 18" will be best, but I've heard they have longer seat tubes than other bikes at that size, which a lot of people my size (actually 5' 8" - 30" inseam) find uncomfortable (difficult to reach handlebars).
Some suggest this can be corrected with a shorter seat post. What are your thoughts? Should I take a gamble on the 16" or 18"?
I know. I'm a pain!
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You can use a smaller size and put the seat post up. But the top tube ie reach is shorter on a smaller size too.
I'd get the 18. if is too long can always put a shorter stem on, as the stock stems are quite long anyway.0 -
I'm also 5"8 with a 30" leg. I also have a Cube LTD. I have the medium (18") and it's perfect. It would easily fit people a bit bigger or smaller, so there's no need to be weary, i guarantee the 18" will be spot on for you. Don't forget about the usual adjustments you can make, the seatpost goes up and down and the saddle goes backwards and forwards and can also be tilted. If you need any more adjustments, and i feel confidant you won't, you can just change your stem or even bar, but you won't need to. Cube LTD, 18" is the one for you, you won't be disappointed.0
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MasterYoda wrote:As far as I can tell, the Bantu has this fork: 120mm Suntour Raidon air suspension fork with lockout.
I think the pump I linked to will do you fine.
Hopefully it should because i have ordered 1 online there and also ordered a bender fender and bar ends from mucky nutz
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Thanks for all your help supersonic, and others! Tezboy, I've went with the 18" as per your recommendation! Nice to hear from someone with personal experience.
Can't wait to get on it!
Now, what do I need? 0 -
Not sure exactly what you mean by what else you'll need, do you mean in terms of upgrades, maintenance or safety etc? If your like me you'll want everything, wich i ain't yet got. Incase it helps, here's what i'v got so far...
Cube intergrated bar ends
Cube race foam lock on grips
Cube bottle cage x2 (in black)
Cube water bottles x4 (2M 2L)
Cube saddle bag (L)
Cateye Commuter Computer (highly recommend)
Topeak Alien 3 Multi Tool
Tyre levers
Puncture repair kit
Shimano dual platform pedals (highly recommend) got mine in black, also available in silver
Bike lock
Allen keys
Torque wrenches
Lezyne pump (highly recommend) mounts to the bottle cage
Xudd 900 photochromic glasses
Still a fair bit to go too, still ain't got, spd shoes, spare inner tube, gloves, hydration back pack, helmet, lights, cleaning kit, floor pump, proper bike tool set and de-greasers, lubes etc
I'v been cleaning mine with hot water, washing up liquid and a hose. Comes up looking brand new every time. I'v never given it a service (1 checkover by bike shop when first bought) nor have i de-greased or lubed it and can't see that it needs it either. However it's probably best you do these things anyway, i would myself just as a prevention if anything, but i don't know about lubes and de-greasers. Would'nt know what u can and can't use these thing on, dont want to damage the bike. I'm lucky Cube bikes don't seem to need these things as often as other bikes seem to, had mine about a year, still runs like new.0 -
a helmet and some decent weatherMasterYoda wrote:Thanks for all your help supersonic, and others! Tezboy, I've went with the 18" as per your recommendation! Nice to hear from someone with personal experience.
Can't wait to get on it!
Now, what do I need?Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc 10- CANYON Nerve AM 6 20110 -
Of course! Weather - I'll take anything other than snow/ice. Helmets - currently researching! Should hopefully be an easier buy than the bike itself.0
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just don't get too hung up on them, remember, it doesn't matter if they are £30 or £130, they all have to pass the same safety standardsMasterYoda wrote:Of course! Weather - I'll take anything other than snow/ice. Helmets - currently researching! Should hopefully be an easier buy than the bike itself.Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc 10- CANYON Nerve AM 6 20110 -
This weather really sucks
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Just took delivery of this baby today!
Wow, what an incredibly solid bike. I've not even taken it outdoors yet. Steep learning curve - learning about quick release wheels/saddles, and make adjustments all over.
I guess a torque wrench is pretty essential for tightening? The headset bolt was loose, and I had to tighten it up, but I read something about not over doing this?0 -
Nice to see your sorted and happy! I take it you went with a Cube, if so wich one. Next step, get your pics up, lol.0
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Thanks tezboy1234.
Yeah, went with Cube LTD 2012. A bit anxious about making sure I've set it up properly tho!
Will go get some pics...0 -
do you mean the top cap bolt ? if so, it only needs to be "finger tight" to preload the bearings, once the stem bolts are tightened it is more or less redundantMasterYoda wrote:I guess a torque wrench is pretty essential for tightening? The headset bolt was loose, and I had to tighten it up, but I read something about not over doing this?Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc 10- CANYON Nerve AM 6 20110 -
Yeah, the bolt you see if standing over the bike and looking from a top-down position, on top of the headset. It was loose, causing the wheel to rotate independently of the front stem. I tightened it until it longer would move whilst gripping the handlebars and grasping the wheel between my knees.0
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You'll love it mate, you made a good choice! Best to nip it around to nearest bike shop to let them give it a once over, check its lubed and greased etc. I got myself a multi tool, topeak alien 3 for 40 quid from halfords. But to be honest, a cheap set of allen keys and torque wrenches will do you, tool wise. Will only be a few quid from Amazon. They'll fit nicely in a saddle bag, along with puncture kit etc. A pump wich attaches to the frame, under your bottle cage is also a good addition. Go with confidence when you got these few small things, everything else ain't too urgently needed.0
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its the stem bolts you should have tightened, think you should watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHrCAdpo1Iw you don't want the top cap bolt too tightMasterYoda wrote:Yeah, the bolt you see if standing over the bike and looking from a top-down position, on top of the headset. It was loose, causing the wheel to rotate independently of the front stem. I tightened it until it longer would move whilst gripping the handlebars and grasping the wheel between my knees.Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc 10- CANYON Nerve AM 6 20110
