Pinarello what have they done??

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  • SeeFarr
    SeeFarr Posts: 14
    Flasher wrote:
    SeeFarr wrote:
    declan1 wrote:
    Boardman bikes are great bikes, but they are given a bad name (rightly so) because they're sold in Therefore, everyone who's spent a lot of money on a Dogma (and is an experienced cyclist) is going to look like the guy that went to Halfords.

    Rant over.

    What does it matter? I mean do you really care what the untrained eye thinks of you. All those who are in the know will see the bike your riding, what your wearing and how your riding to know that your not just 'some guy' that went to Halfords.
    Stop being such a snob and dont worry about what other people think about you. Does it really matter what everyone else thinks?

    Bet you'd be gutted if you'd spent 8 grand on a Dogma!

    Not really no. I'd be pretty chuffed to be honest. 1. That I have a great bike and 2. That I could afford one in the first place. I don't buy bikes to please other people or to help me climb the ladder of cycling hierarchy. I buy what suits my needs and what I can afford.
    For all those that own Pinarellos and are now gutted an filled with embarrassment......get a grip of yourselves or go take up golf or tennis.
  • chuckla
    chuckla Posts: 132
    southdownswolf wrote:
    How very dare Pinarello try to sell more bikes, by selling them through the biggest bike chainstore in the UK.

    +1 why on earth would they want to sell there brand and make a few quid out of it? Surely they make bikes just for the love of it!?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    So why did they not do it before if its such a great move?
    What about other similar brands? Or is it only Bradley Wiggins and team that are going to get the tills opening?

    Good luck to them I say, only time will tell.

    Maybe now supermarkets are big sellers of home electronics, Tesco's will be selling Bowers and Wilkins loudspeakers.
  • chuckla
    chuckla Posts: 132
    The only sub £1K bikes are pinerello Diesal only the brave fixes and they're £799! The next is £1399, so I don't think they will sell loads! if you have a good relationship with your lbs or even if you are new to them, you're likely to get a better deal on a similar bike!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    chuckla wrote:
    southdownswolf wrote:
    How very dare Pinarello try to sell more bikes, by selling them through the biggest bike chainstore in the UK.

    +1 why on earth would they want to sell there brand and make a few quid out of it? Surely they make bikes just for the love of it!?
    chuckla wrote:
    The only sub £1K bikes are pinerello Diesal only the brave fixes and they're £799! The next is £1399, so I don't think they will sell loads!

    So which is it?

    If they are doing all this just to make a "few quid out of it" then surely they stand to actually make a loss by the time the brand has been tarnished?
    That was the whole point of the thread and the question the OP was asking.

    I would not really go off the brand, but am 100% sure loads of people will.
    Saying that, I would want a good discount if I got one now. Not least because re-sale will take a hit.
    People will either just not be happy about the brand. Or be happy with the brand, but not happy it might have come from Halfords originally and have had mechanical issues.
  • wingguy
    wingguy Posts: 4
    SoloSuperia wrote:
    I'm quite long in the tooth, but I can remember that little known brand that was sold by Halfords..........

    um I'll get there!!!! I will remember it

    Oh Yes "Specialized"

    What ever happened to them????

    Specialized, hmm? In the mid-nineties Specialized introduced a budget range of bikes to be sold in American supermarkets. A year later their turnover was down 30% and they avoided bankruptcy by the skin of their teeth. They don't sell bikes in supermarkets anymore :wink:

    This wont happen to Pinarello (if only because the UK market is a relatively small part of their global sales) but I'm sure they'll find it pretty difficult to get any new IBS's to stock in Pina's for a while...
  • snoopsmydogg
    snoopsmydogg Posts: 1,110
    So while people are moaning and making assumptions why has no one checked the site?

    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... %3Ddesktop

    Pinarello range from £799(fixie) - £2600 (105 groupset)

    Oh and I couldn't care if they were selling them or if wiggo rode one pinarello bikes just don't do anything for me.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    snoopsmydogg wrote:
    So while people are moaning and making assumptions why has no one checked the site?

    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... %3Ddesktop

    Pinarello range from £799(fixie) - £2600 (105 groupset)

    Oh and I couldn't care if they were selling them or if wiggo rode one pinarello bikes just don't do anything for me.

    Why do you think no one has checked the site, and what has that got to do with the thread?
    We all know roughly what they are selling.

    What multi-thousand pound bikes do you like/buy then, and would it bother you if they started selling them at Halfords?
    That would be a lot more relevant to the thread.

    I wonder how many people will pay Halfords two and a half grand for one without joining BC first and getting £250 off?
  • sandyballs
    sandyballs Posts: 577
    I think the whole debate is pointless, people are being all rose tinted about Pinarello and the whole LBS. where a bike is bought is not reflective of the bike or the rider. Some LBS are dinosaurs that should be closed they do nothing to support cyclists in the main, they sell pinarellos alongside BSOs for the most part and have no real expertise in the current middle/high end market. Are they any different to Halfords?. They need to Adapt or close and i for one will not mourn there passing.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Depends which LBS. Some will be very good. Halfords is Halfords though, and general opinion is pretty poor.
    Pinarello (like them or not) make some very nice bikes and I think its fair to find the concept of them being sold in Halfords questionable for the brand (which is what this thread is about).

    Not sure which bike you have, but would you take it to Halfords for a service?
    Guess you can only say yes if you would be happy for them to build your new two and a half grand bike rather than your chosen LBS.
  • snoopsmydogg
    snoopsmydogg Posts: 1,110
    Carbonator wrote:

    Why do you think no one has checked the site, and what has that got to do with the thread?
    We all know roughly what they are selling.

    Tbh I got bored quickly when reading as there is a lot of assuming but very little Fact
    Carbonator wrote:
    What multi-thousand pound bikes do you like/buy then, and would it bother you if they started selling them at Halfords?
    That would be a lot more relevant to the thread.

    Generally Italian and no. But then I feel I a competent enough to tighten a bolt.
    Carbonator wrote:
    I wonder how many people will pay Halfords two and a half grand for one without joining BC first and getting £250 off?

    Lots but that's business
  • sandyballs
    sandyballs Posts: 577
    Carbonator wrote:
    Not sure which bike you have, but would you take it to Halfords for a service?
    Guess you can only say yes if you would be happy for them to build your new two and a half grand bike rather than your chosen LBS.
    I build my own bikes so do not need the sevices of a LBS, my daughter has on 3 occasions needed work doing and since i live out the country i directed her to the LBS that as a boy i used, it was awful, the repairs were amateur at best. She now uses Halfords who have done very good work on her college commuter.

    I went into the said LBS when i visited home, they stock Pinarellos. I had the good fortune to listen to the manager have a very loud phone rant with her childs boarding school regarding her unpaid bill and most of the business workings of the shop over Xmas that meant there were no profits so they will not be getting there money. I also saw a spotty youth going at somones SPD SLs on his Cannondale, with an old adjustable, trying for some time going the wrong way, left hand thread. When I enquired about the price of the FP Quattro, i got sone real sales bull about how its the ferrari of the bike world etc etc, and a look of this is too good for you. I stuck with my Giant TCR Advanced.

    Not all LBS are the same, not all Halfords are the same. At least i know Halfords will be there next month when there is a warranty issue. As said on other threads, if you have 2k to spend on a bike and take the advice of a Hafords or LBS sales rep without doing your homework, you deserve what you get.
  • barrowmatt
    barrowmatt Posts: 104
    Carbonator wrote:
    barrowmatt wrote:
    This thread highlights everything that is wrong with cycling. It should be about being outdoors, active and the freedom to cover good distances using only your own legs. Instead it's just a fashion/fad all about brands, equipment and who has the most cash to show off.

    I think you will find thats called running. Cycling requires a bike!
    This thread is about one brand being sold at one shop and nothing really to do with cash and showing off.

    Do you not think people can/should be outdoors/active and go long distances on nice kit then?
    I find it a lot easier and more enjoyable. Its just that nice kit costs more cash.

    What is it with people having a go at others for spending money on their hobby?
    I can think of worse things to do with the money, and at the end of the day its theirs to do what they want with!

    I have no issue with spending money on hobbies/bikes etc but I certainly don't ride around eyeing up every other rider and make judgements based on the brand of bike and clothing they are wearing, or indeed where they may have bought it from.

    This thread is the height of snobbery, if you have the money to spend on a great piece of engineering that's great, but the idea that it is devalued because the same bike can be bought from Halfords is a pretty sad mindset to have. It's the same mindset that people who buy bikes from Halfords are less serious/capable cyclists because of it.
  • sandyballs
    sandyballs Posts: 577
    +1 Barrowmatt, how will people know if you bought at Primera, Sigma, ebay, LBS or Halfords, its snobbery and arrogance that turns me away from this sport and this site at times. I ride what i can afford from the place i got the best deal and wear what i want. If people think that brands are changed because of distribution methods they live in an outdated blinkered world.

    Rant over.
  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    k3vinjam3s wrote:
    why would a brand not want to be sold widespread in a nations number 1 cycling outlet???

    it seems the majority of cyclists are so concerned with what other people think than what they actually think themselves. no doubt the same people that turn there noses up at the well valued kit that both aldi and lidle periodically have on sale. if I want to ride a pinarello, boardman or even a carerra i will. its my choice and mine alone. i couldnt care less about the cafe stop and all the up there own arses cycling snobs there. maybe pinarello have too much faith in the english cycling community going by the reaction on these threads. i started road cycling exactly a year ago and have to say i got a better reception playing at posh golf clubs as a 115kg skin head doorman lookalike. thank god with the cycling boom they will be more newbies like me than "experienced cyclists". just hope they dont all convert too soon.

    Halfords the nations number 1 cycling outlet? Mmmmm dont know about that. Halfords are more associated with motoring.
    I would have thought Evans were a bigger cycling outlet.
  • navrig
    navrig Posts: 1,352
    mike6 wrote:
    k3vinjam3s wrote:
    why would a brand not want to be sold widespread in a nations number 1 cycling outlet???

    it seems the majority of cyclists are so concerned with what other people think than what they actually think themselves. no doubt the same people that turn there noses up at the well valued kit that both aldi and lidle periodically have on sale. if I want to ride a pinarello, boardman or even a carerra i will. its my choice and mine alone. i couldnt care less about the cafe stop and all the up there own arses cycling snobs there. maybe pinarello have too much faith in the english cycling community going by the reaction on these threads. i started road cycling exactly a year ago and have to say i got a better reception playing at posh golf clubs as a 115kg skin head doorman lookalike. thank god with the cycling boom they will be more newbies like me than "experienced cyclists". just hope they dont all convert too soon.

    Halfords the nations number 1 cycling outlet? Mmmmm dont know about that. Halfords are more associated with motoring.
    I would have thought Evans were a bigger cycling outlet.

    I think Halfords have more outlets and, possibly, more bike related sales. However I suspect they sell many more kids or "toy" bikes.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halfords

    462 stores in 2010. Evans aren't even close to that.
  • moscowflyer
    moscowflyer Posts: 540
    declan1 wrote:
    Boardman bikes are great bikes, but they are given a bad name (rightly so) because they're sold in Halfords.

    Why rightly so? You may get a dodgy mechanic putting the finishing touches to it but a good bike is a good bike, regardless of where it's sold. I love my Boardman, but if I wanted to upgrade to a top of the range one I couldn't buy that at Halfords, same as the Pinarello. If people want to look down on me because I'm on a bike bought at Halfords, then f*** them. I have a bike that rides great and I couldn't care for the snobs or what they think.
  • skleins
    skleins Posts: 103
    Oh god...not another of these posts on 'M.A.M.I.L radar' :roll:
  • jambo75
    jambo75 Posts: 9
    On the plus side, Halfords do tend to have quite good sales and discount codes.
  • Bozman
    Bozman Posts: 2,518
    Halfords............. You buy your bike and you don't have to go back there again, Evans..... you buy your bike and you don't have to go back there again.
    It's a bl**dy shop that serves a purpose, you go to these places for your first bike, when you know what you're doing you never darken their doors again.

    I doubt that it's going to do alot for Pinarello's reputation because they haven't really got one, folk seem to buy a Pinarello because of the onda forks, overweight, poor spec and over priced, give me a Boardman any day of the week .
  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    mike6 wrote:

    Halfords the nations number 1 cycling outlet? Mmmmm dont know about that. Halfords are more associated with motoring.
    I would have thought Evans were a bigger cycling outlet.

    bigger in London maybe, Halfords have nearly 10 times as many shops as Evans nationwide
  • RDB66
    RDB66 Posts: 492
    Strange reading this thread.....

    My local Fish n Chip shop has just started selling Cervello's !! Dont know what thats all about !!

    Dicky.
    A Brother of the Wheel. http://www.boxfordbikeclub.co.uk

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    2011 Carbon Spesh Stumpy FSR.
  • stifflersmom
    stifflersmom Posts: 177
    Alan Sugar riding a Pinarello has done more damage to the brand than stocking them in Halfords.
  • FergySteve
    FergySteve Posts: 82
    Hi all,

    I don't think there's anything wrong with buying a bike from Halfords, particularly a Pinarello/Boardman. They're decent bikes. I wouldn't take the bike back to Halfords for servicing etc, but that's an entirely different thing. :mrgreen:
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  • team47b
    team47b Posts: 6,425
    I blame Thatcher :D
    my isetta is a 300cc bike
  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    awavey wrote:
    mike6 wrote:

    Halfords the nations number 1 cycling outlet? Mmmmm dont know about that. Halfords are more associated with motoring.
    I would have thought Evans were a bigger cycling outlet.

    bigger in London maybe, Halfords have nearly 10 times as many shops as Evans nationwide

    I am not arguing with how many shops Halfords have, merely stating that there main customer is the motorist. There cycling departments are a very small part of what they do. Evans sell bikes and bike gear, period.
  • snoopsmydogg
    snoopsmydogg Posts: 1,110
    mike6 wrote:
    awavey wrote:
    mike6 wrote:

    Halfords the nations number 1 cycling outlet? Mmmmm dont know about that. Halfords are more associated with motoring.
    I would have thought Evans were a bigger cycling outlet.

    bigger in London maybe, Halfords have nearly 10 times as many shops as Evans nationwide

    I am not arguing with how many shops Halfords have, merely stating that there main customer is the motorist. There cycling departments are a very small part of what they do. Evans sell bikes and bike gear, period.

    Before I joined this site I knew nothing of Evans or decathlon but I always new halfords sold bikes, full stop.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    I have known Halfords sold bikes for nearly forty years but I have pretty much always known they were not great bikes that they sold.
    I would like to see the breakdown of the types of bikes they sell . If you take Kids bikes and 'bike shaped objects' out of the equation, it will be a hell of a lot less.

    Halfords is not much more of a bike shop than a local car accessory shop (that sells bikes) is.
    Evans is a proper bike shop.

    I am all for Halfords selling nice bikes and people buying them, but they are not what I would call a bike shop.
    They sell some nice bikes now but their service is often a joke.
    I would be the first to get behind them if they sorted that out, but I cannot see it happening sadly.
  • sandyballs
    sandyballs Posts: 577
    RDB66 wrote:
    Strange reading this thread.....

    My local Fish n Chip shop has just started selling Cervello's !! Dont know what thats all about !!

    Dicky.
    That's spelt Saveloy, not Cervellos.

    :D
  • mk1markfalkirk
    mk1markfalkirk Posts: 93
    I'd be much more upset if all the recent pinarellos weren't dog-shit ugly

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