Di2 software updates - multishift

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  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    philwint wrote:
    The point is: Is 3 what you want? would you prefer 2, or 4, or the whole block? and in just the down shift? or up shift too, and the same for both of different?

    2 = 2 normal clicks
    4 = 1 big click + 1 normal click.

    Really its not that difficult :lol:
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  • philwint
    philwint Posts: 763
    i never said it was very difficult - but Di is fun :D
  • Velonutter wrote:
    You could go Campag as it already has multi shift and auto-trimming :wink: :roll: :mrgreen:

    Word ;-)
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    philwint wrote:
    i never said it was very difficult - but Di is fun :D

    Right up to the point where your batteries run out :shock:

    It is nice and all that, I just see more cons than pros with it.

    Each to their own like.
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • philwint
    philwint Posts: 763
    smidsy wrote:

    Right up to the point where your batteries run out :shock:

    It is nice and all that, I just see more cons than pros with it.

    Each to their own like.

    I absolutely understand - and I've only had it a couple of weeks so can't give a balanced view either.

    Give me a few months and I'll post a more considered opinion :)

    - on the battery - it's supposed to last for ages (a couple of 1000 miles). I'll let you know lol
  • VTech
    VTech Posts: 4,736
    smidsy wrote:
    philwint wrote:
    i never said it was very difficult - but Di is fun :D

    Right up to the point where your batteries run out :shock:

    It is nice and all that, I just see more cons than pros with it.

    Each to their own like.


    Come on, how many times have you bought gadgets even though you know you don't need them :):)
    Living MY dream.
  • CiB
    CiB Posts: 6,098
    edited February 2013
    Don't buy Di2 whatever you do. The batteries only last months at a time and /or a thousand or so miles between charges, and their annoying habit of always giving the perfect gear change every time regardless of speed & load, even dragging yourself up a hill and you need a smaller gear, it's just embarrassing how it just works without any fuss or bother. And don't get me started on its sodding self-indexing function where the time to push & hold a button for a couple of seconds then nudge the lever to line it up correctly and then watch it work up & down the cogs before waving you on your way with a cheery smile; well.. It's just nuts.

    I fancy a go with this s/w. It's never once occurred to me that I need to swap the levers from F to R & back again on a whim, or that the almost telepathic prod of the lever as many times as I need to get to another gear further up needs to be replaced with one slightly longer pressssssss-just-a-teeeny-bit-more action.

    Where do I get this s/w? Can I run it off my equally unnecessary iPad?
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    VTech wrote:
    smidsy wrote:
    philwint wrote:
    i never said it was very difficult - but Di is fun :D

    Right up to the point where your batteries run out :shock:

    It is nice and all that, I just see more cons than pros with it.

    Each to their own like.


    Come on, how many times have you bought gadgets even though you know you don't need them :):)

    Not sure really.

    I do not tend to get the latest thing, I just get what works and does what I need at a good price.

    e.g. Never had a smart phone or tablet. I do not own a gps or even a cycle computer. My newest bike (bought brand new in December) does not have BB30 or internal cable routing and only has 10 speed (and that was only because I could not find 9 speed at a sensible price).
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • VTech
    VTech Posts: 4,736
    Smidsy: Brilliant :)

    CIB: would you really say its a huge forward step using the new system ?
    Living MY dream.
  • Rolf F wrote:
    Oh crikey! It's come to this! It will be a cold day in hell before a PC interfaces with any of my bikes :lol:

    Mmmm, could be with you there. But if anything can resolve my front gear change issues I'd take it.

    Thing is where do you stick in the floppy dic?
  • lotus49
    lotus49 Posts: 763
    Mmmm, could be with you there. But if anything can resolve my front gear change issues I'd take it.

    Thing is where do you stick in the floppy dic?
    I always find it's easier to stick it in when it's not floppy.
  • CiB
    CiB Posts: 6,098
    VTech wrote:
    CIB: would you really say its a huge forward step using the new system ?
    No - not a huge step. It's an incremental improvement that gives consistent smooth precise fast gear changes, same every time. I like that. I've just ridden home in the dark on what was my first commute since NYE (various reasons) and to put it bluntly I'd forgotten the finer points of doing it, not to mention being a bit short on fitness. Regardless of where I was though - unlit lane, middle of town filtering past traffic, high speed A road - the one thing I didn't give any thought to was the gear changes. Even through a thick pair of gloves. They just work. The self-trimming is neat, setting them up with the auto-indexing is a doddle, battery life isn't an issue. Hands up here though - i had problems with mine where they failed to withstand the winter weather. It's not clear whther it was a dud battery or the front logic unit that failed as both were swapped at the same time, but they're back and working like they did fresh out of the box a year ago.

    It's dead easy to sneer and say yeah my current set up does that, and it's true; mine did. I've still got the previous Ultegra g/s in a box in the garage wondering what to with them. Are they now crap? No way. But these are just that bit better, in the same way that some TVs are better than others, and some bikes are better, or cars, or guitars, wine, wives, and anything else you might care to add to that list that have that extra quality that makes them nicer to live with.

    I've done about 5000 miles on them now and love the way they just work. Easy set-up for different wheels, self-trimming front mech, consistent perfect changes, even swapping cogs when stamping up a hill out of the sadle gives a decent change. My view is they cost a few bob but so what? It's only some money out of an ISA. If you don't fancy them, don't buy them - you're not missing out on a life-changing bit of kit. Bottom line is I love em, and will certainly have them on the next bike, probably built in though instead of an after-market fitting.

    Quote tempted with this s/w package though now.
  • Will this work with any version of Di2 as I have the original 10 speed version.

    The 10 speed Ultegra yes, but pretty sure not the old 7970 DA 10speed Di2, only the 9070.
    Both the ultegra and new DA use the newer Etubes wiring system and control protocol.
  • FJJ
    FJJ Posts: 43
    spasypaddy wrote:
    where did you get the diagnostic box from?

    Just got it online fron ChainReaction. The software is a free download from a Shimano site - you get a username and password in the box.
  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    I'd like to swap the front mech lever, it just annoys me.