Shimano v Campagnolo

daviesee

As silly threads seem to be okay these days......

Shimano V Campagnolo

Thoughts?

Cleat Eastwood

i'm still struggling with me 3 speed chopper.

Garry H

Just get Ksyrium Elites.

Ben6899

Cleat Eastwood wrote:

i'm still struggling with me 3 speed chopper.

Three speed!?

My chopper is fixed gear.

schweiz

My chopper was yellow.

pinno

schweiz wrote:

My chopper was yellow.

From what Heidi tells me, your chopper is now black and blue.

schweiz

You stay away from Heidi, she's still teaching me to yodel!

Lightning

SRAM.

Mikey41

This is Wiggles fault..

GGBiker

I have campag centaur and veloce.

Was looking at some bikes in LBS today with Shimano 105/ultegra and dura ace fitted, what really struck me was how ugly the shimano groupsets are, especially the shifters and chainsets.

Worst of all were the Colnagos looking embarrassed in their ugly shimano outfits, really shouldn't be allowed.

mr_goo

GGBiker wrote:

I have campag centaur and veloce.

Was looking at some bikes in LBS today with Shimano 105/ultegra and dura ace fitted, what really struck me was how ugly the shimano groupsets are, especially the shifters and chainsets.

Worst of all were the Colnagos looking embarrassed in their ugly shimano outfits, really shouldn't be allowed.

Agree that the campy does look better. However I saw the Dura Ace Carbon Chainset in Hargroves, Southampton yesterday and that looked pretty damn good.

daviesee

RIGHT!
Stop it. Stop it now!
Campagnolo or Campag. No other denominations are allowed, especially Americanisms.

They are clearly the best though. Just cos....

pinno

I wasn't going to bite but I could not help it.

I fitted a Dura Ace groupset for a friend. So silky smooth. However, after 6 months of decent use, it became pernickety as hell. Took lots of frequent minor adjustments to keep it running smoothly.
I sold a 8 speed titanium Campag groupset in 2008 (most of one). It was on the winter trainers and had 'bedded in' beautifully - after th0000's of miles in all conditions. It was smoother than the day I fitted it.
I was converted to Campag by a bloke in the early nineties but this coincided with the ability to actually afford the stuff.
If I was serious racer with silly money, I would buy Shimano for its silky smoothness and probably replace the lot annually.
Now I am on 11 speed record/super record and its just sublime. Have to keep the gears as clean as possible but thats the same for Shimano too. My current groupset will go on to my winter trainer. My winter trainer has the record 10 groupset that was on the summer steed. The record 10 is in its 4th year and I have not replaced a jockey wheel or chainring or any of the bearings. Campag is just that harder wearing, the bearing surfaces are much better and hence the longevity. I am pretty confident that I will not be buying another groupset for a long time and I always know that I get a bit of re-sale value for the old Campag that Shimano does not have.

secretsam

Mr Goo wrote:

Agree that the campy does look better. However I saw the Dura Ace Carbon Chainset in Hargroves, Southampton yesterday and that looked pretty damn good.

NO NO NO!!!!

It is not bl00dy "Campy", you plastic Yank, it's Campagnolo (with the middle bit pronounced correctly) or "Campag", pronounced to rhyme with, er, nothing really. Hard "g".

And those new 4 prong Shimano DA chainsets on Colnago disk fitted bike that they keep advertising are utterly, utterly hideous.

PS: I ride Shimano, Sora, 'cos that's what it came with
PPS: I did a huge and fully serious thread about Campag vs Shimano vs SRAM on Road Beginners

daviesee

SecretSam wrote:

PPS: I did a huge and fully serious thread about Campag vs Shimano vs SRAM on Road Beginners

This thread was meant to be a light hearted dig at the PC v Mac threads
But carry on if you want.......

pinno

daviesee wrote:

SecretSam wrote:

PPS: I did a huge and fully serious thread about Campag vs Shimano vs SRAM on Road Beginners

This thread was meant to be a light hearted dig at the PC v Mac threads
But carry on if you want....... :lol:

To the tune of 'Apple Dumplings'

Campagnolo, campagnolo, I could ride it every day
Campagnolo, campagnolo, what a lot of miles a day
If you give me any other bits its full of growls and grumplings
But I won't complain 'cos i'm right as rain
With good oooooold Campagnolo.

Cleat Eastwood

pinarello001 wrote:

daviesee wrote:

SecretSam wrote:

PPS: I did a huge and fully serious thread about Campag vs Shimano vs SRAM on Road Beginners

This thread was meant to be a light hearted dig at the PC v Mac threads
But carry on if you want....... :lol:

To the tune of 'Apple Dumplings'

Campagnolo, campagnolo, I could ride it every day
Campagnolo, campagnolo, what a lot of miles a day
If you give me any other bits its full of growls and grumplings
But I won't complain 'cos i'm right as rain
With good oooooold Campagnolo.

Is this a scottish song - they have knack of taking fresh healthy food and smothering it in suet. :oops: :P :x

daviesee

Cleat Eastwood wrote:

Is this a scottish song - they have knack of taking fresh healthy food and smothering it in suet. :oops: :P :x

From Wikipedia:- (I know)
Suet-based recipes

Christmas pudding
Dumplings
Haggis
Jamaican patty
Kishka/Kishke
Mincemeat
Rag Pudding
Spotted dick
Steak and kidney pudding
Suet Crust Pastry
Windsor pudding

1 out of 11 from Scotland.

I am getting ready to go out for dinner. Traditional Scottish I think.
Langoustines followed by venison haunch and then cranachan, finished off with a few malts. Lovely! :P :P

thegreatdivide

It's not even Scottish.

finchy

Cleat Eastwood wrote:

Is this a scottish song - they have knack of taking fresh healthy food and smothering it in suet.

That is completely untrue and an utterly slanderous accusation against the people of Scotland. They'd never go anywhere near fresh, healthy food.

Gazzetta67

SecretSam wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

Agree that the campy does look better. However I saw the Dura Ace Carbon Chainset in Hargroves, Southampton yesterday and that looked pretty damn good.

NO NO NO!!!!

It is not bl00dy "Campy", you plastic Yank, it's Campagnolo (with the middle bit pronounced correctly) or "Campag", pronounced to rhyme with, er, nothing really. Hard "g".

And those new 4 prong Shimano DA chainsets on Colnago disk fitted bike that they keep advertising are utterly, utterly hideous.

PS: I ride Shimano, Sora, 'cos that's what it came with
PPS: I did a huge and fully serious thread about Campag vs Shimano vs SRAM on Road Beginners

+ 1 I hate that bloody term also "Campy" FFs !!! - I see That campag have sold out to "americanisms" on their website. What next "Shimmy" or "Sramy" Look Below to see Mr "Campyman" and you'l see what i mean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMCkuqL9IcM

ben@31

I'm not fussed about looks, is there much difference in performance between Shimano, Campagnolo and SRAM. It terms of how well they shift and durability? I'm thinking about Ultegra price range.

Also is there much difference between older 6600 generations of ultegra on ebay and the latest 6700 ultegra?

Yellow Peril

hmmm...'mano v 'nolo eh? always a divisive subject. I've only ever had Shim' so I don't know that much about 'pag. I suppose if I had my time over again I might give 'nolers a go instead of sticking slavishly to 'manny.

Gazzetta67

Yellow Peril wrote:

hmmm...'mano v 'nolo eh? always a divisive subject. I've only ever had Shim' so I don't know that much about 'pag. I suppose if I had my time over again I might give 'nolers a go instead of sticking slavishly to 'manny.

Like it YP your the MANO

Garry H

Yellow Peril wrote:

hmmm...'mano v 'nolo eh? always a divisive subject. I've only ever had Shim' so I don't know that much about 'pag. I suppose if I had my time over again I might give 'nolers a go instead of sticking slavishly to 'manny.

Nah, you need to give the ole Sr a shot as well!

MaxwellBygraves

I have used groupsets from all three and find them all functional. If pushed I would choose Campag as I prefer the thumbshifters, but that's a personal preference. There's not a lot in it, they all make good products.

ddraver

ben@31 wrote:

I'm not fussed about looks, is there much difference in performance between Shimano, Campagnolo and SRAM. It terms of how well they shift and durability? I'm thinking about Ultegra price range.

Also is there much difference between older 6600 generations of ultegra on ebay and the latest 6700 ultegra?

No, find a good LBS and have a ride on all 3. Pick whatever one you like the most. Functionally, and Performanceally they re identical!

I notice we have nt had the classic Groupset post about having a summer bike with brand new Campy on that only gets ridden in perfect conditions and then cleaned, lubed and serviced after every ride compared to the winter bike with 10 year old Shimano that gets used every day through all weathers and has nt so much as seen a bottle of lube for 6 months "but every time I ride the summer bike campy feels soooo much better"

Those are always fun!

pinno

I have a summer bike with brand new Campag [Edit] on that only gets ridden once a year in perfect conditions and then cleaned, lubed and serviced after every ride compared to the winter bike with 24 year old Shimano that gets used every day through all weathers and hasn't so much as seen a bottle of lube for 8 years but every time I ride the summer bike, campag feels soooo much better.

cyclingfury

I buy Campagnolo because it has four syllables. Shimano isn't as good as it only has three syllables. Sram is really crap as it only has one.

rolf_f

ddraver wrote:

I notice we have nt had the classic Groupset post about having a summer bike with brand new Campy on that only gets ridden in perfect conditions and then cleaned, lubed and serviced after every ride compared to the winter bike with 10 year old Shimano that gets used every day through all weathers and has nt so much as seen a bottle of lube for 6 months "but every time I ride the summer bike campy feels soooo much better"

Those are always fun!

True - but more intersting is the question - is there anyone in the universe who has Campag on their winter bike and Shimano on their summer bike?

Personally, I think Shimano is fine in its place - which is on a mountain bike!

ddraver

Couldn't give a monkeys to be honest Rolf, you re also rather missing the point...