Equal rights for decent kit?

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    MrSweary wrote:

    p.s. I was scalped yesterday by everyone but the highlight was a bloke in shiny blue lycra leggings and a donkey jacket who had cut up a mineral water bottle and sellotaped it to his bike as a mudguard. I wasn't even Evian or something posh... ASDA own! The shame.

    Might start a trend. Top riders could start having a 'scalp' bike and kit.
    One that looks as sad, cheap/knacker'd as possible. Then get a buzz from overtaking everyone :lol:
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    Please god noooooo! Not another bike snob topic!!!!


    It's all ok... this one's ironic!


    Don't you think

    nah... its a bike snob thread by the back door
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    How about everytime you pass someone you have a legal right to permanently swap any / all items of kit with them should you choose to. You could start out on some BSO and the kit left in Lidl once the hordes have swarmed through for the better stuff plus a bit of talent and end up with some overweight dentists carbon dream machine and full Rapha kit. It might make the dentist think twice before buying the kit only to donate it to some chav with greater fitness.
  • Pross wrote:
    How about everytime you pass someone you have a legal right to permanently swap any / all items of kit with them should you choose to.

    That would be great. You could see a tiny rider on a huge Colnago!
  • stueyboy
    stueyboy Posts: 108
    smidsy wrote:
    ........... I should get paid more than a pro because people have much...much longer to read the advertising.

    This makes some kind of twisted sense :D
  • 964cup
    964cup Posts: 1,362
    I don't get the clothing thing at all. I have a half-decent carbon bike, and I've spent some money upgrading the components, because I can (I've convinced myself) feel the difference; probably this is bollocks and it is just all about the legs.

    But I can't believe £200 of Assos shorts or Rapha tops will make any odds at all to my speed, endurance or comfort compared to the Endura, Altura and PI stuff I'm wearing now. And *why* do people buy team kit for teams they're not in? It's like fat slobs in football tops, only worse somehow because cycling isn't a tribal ritual for halfwits. By all means wear Team Sky gear if you're riding for them in the TdF this year, but otherwise, what are you saying? "I like telly"?
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    964Cup wrote:
    because cycling isn't a tribal ritual for halfwits.

    Are you sure?
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,473
    I think there's at least as much inverse snobbery in cycling as there is straight forward snobbery - for every person boasting about their Pinarello Dogma with Super Record EPS and how fast it is there's someone else banging on about how hard they are because they ride a 20 year old alu framed bike that weighs 25lbs and sill manage to blast past the poseurs on the hills. Then there's inverse-inverse-snobbery, where you have all the gear and look like you might have no idea but still manage to blast past the inverse-snobs on their alu hacks on the hills... :wink:
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    964Cup wrote:
    I don't get the clothing thing at all. I have a half-decent carbon bike, and I've spent some money upgrading the components, because I can (I've convinced myself) feel the difference; probably this is **** and it is just all about the legs.

    But I can't believe £200 of Assos shorts or Rapha tops will make any odds at all to my speed, endurance or comfort compared to the Endura, Altura and PI stuff I'm wearing now. And *why* do people buy team kit for teams they're not in? It's like fat slobs in football tops, only worse somehow because cycling isn't a tribal ritual for halfwits. By all means wear Team Sky gear if you're riding for them in the TdF this year, but otherwise, what are you saying? "I like telly"?

    Generally feel the same.

    I'm not into Rapha or out and out team kit as do feel its a bit ott and football like.

    Have a few Assos items, at first either because they were on sale or, in the case of winter gloves, I tried others and ended up with Assos ones which I love.
    Have recently bought some bib shorts because I feel they are better quality and I like the design/colours. The shorts are easily the most comfortable I have but I only really need them on long rides.

    Although I am not into team replica kit, I do like some kit with manufacturers names on. I just feel it looks a bit less plain and a bit more fun.
  • trek_dan
    trek_dan Posts: 1,366
    neeb wrote:
    I think there's at least as much inverse snobbery in cycling as there is straight forward snobbery - for every person boasting about their Pinarello Dogma with Super Record EPS and how fast it is there's someone else banging on about how hard they are because they ride a 20 year old alu framed bike that weighs 25lbs and sill manage to blast past the poseurs on the hills. Then there's inverse-inverse-snobbery, where you have all the gear and look like you might have no idea but still manage to blast past the inverse-snobs on their alu hacks on the hills... :wink:
    On a similar theme how about inverse-inverse-inverse snobbery of fat blokes saying "I'm quicker than this guy and he's half my weight" or old guys saying "I'm faster than this kid and he's half my age." At least you don't get weight snobbery in golf :lol:
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,473
    trek_dan wrote:
    At least you don't get weight snobbery in golf :lol:
    I've always assumed that being fat is an advantage in golf, most of the pro golfers seem to be overweight. Maybe it helps to provide a stable base / lower the centre of gravity to resist the momentum of the swing?
  • trek_dan
    trek_dan Posts: 1,366
    neeb wrote:
    trek_dan wrote:
    At least you don't get weight snobbery in golf :lol:
    I've always assumed that being fat is an advantage in golf, most of the pro golfers seem to be overweight. Maybe it helps to provide a stable base / lower the centre of gravity to resist the momentum of the swing?
    Look at Andy "The Viking" Fordham in the darts, he lost his aim after loosing loads of weight. Therefore I think thats a fair assumption.
  • lotus49
    lotus49 Posts: 763
    trek_dan wrote:
    On a similar theme how about inverse-inverse-inverse snobbery of fat blokes saying "I'm quicker than this guy and he's half my weight" or old guys saying "I'm faster than this kid and he's half my age." At least you don't get weight snobbery in golf :lol:
    Fair enough. If I were 50 and weighed 20 stone and could drop a 10 stone 25 year old, I would feel pretty chuffed with myself and wouldn't hesitate to let people know :D. I don't think many people who are twice my age are still riding a bike but there are plenty of wiry old men (some of whom look 70 if they are a day) who could beat me up most of the local hills. Fortunately none of them is twice my weight (although 24 stone people don't generally get to 70).

    Feeling pleased with yourself over what you can do is not the same as feeling pleased with yourself over what you can buy.
  • trek_dan
    trek_dan Posts: 1,366
    Its just as an irrelevant a comparison though - equitment doesnt make you a better bike rider, neither does weight or age alone. Saying I'm faster than this guy and he's got a better bike than me, is no different to saying I'm faster than this guy an he's half my weight. Maybe the guy half the weight just isn't very good at cycling?