Heart Rate Power Relationship.

Trev The Rev

http://www.toppfysik.nu/wp-content/uplo ... itions.pdf

""We conclude that during competitions of <120 minutes heart rate
is a valid and reliable predictor of exercise intensity and energy
expenditure. For competitions of <240 minutes heart rate will
increase by <5 beats/min relative to workload and therefore over
predict exercise workload and energy expenditure.""


Training by heart rate is a viable alternative to training with power.

danowat

I disagree, having experianced just how much cardiac drift can affect things, even over shorter distances like 10's, I wouldn't say it's reliable, I've even experianced cardiac drift downwards during very long TT's

You yourself has said numerous times just how much temperature can affect heart rate, so how can it be reliable?

Training by heart rate is a viable alternative to training with power.

I assume because there are no quotation marks, that is your stance on it?

Froomes Edgar

Urgh. At least when I troll I'm funny

Trev The Rev

danowat wrote:

I disagree, having experianced just how much cardiac drift can affect things, even over shorter distances like 10's, I wouldn't say it's reliable, I've even experianced cardiac drift downwards during very long TT's

You yourself has said numerous times just how much temperature can affect heart rate, so how can it be reliable?

Training by heart rate is a viable alternative to training with power.

I assume because there are no quotation marks, that is your stance on it?

I think they found in the paper that outdoors the drift is minimal probably due to cooling outdoors being so much better than indoors even with a good fan.

I'm not saying training by heart rate is better only that it is a viable alternative for those that want to keep things simple and don't want to bother with a power meter.

It would seem from this paper that heart rate is more reliable than many people think.

"We found no significant changes during the first 120 minutes of
road race competition or during 35 minute long time trials. After
120 minutes we have observed an upward drift of the heart rate
in relation to power output in the range of 5 beats, in
competitions lasting 240 minutes. CV drift can be a result of
many different mechanisms and it is impossible to draw any
conclusions to which mechanisms that have induced the drift we
observed. ""

Has your Quarq been fixed yet?

GiantMike

Trev The Rev wrote:

Training by heart rate is a viable alternative to training with power.

I was going to write something but I have lost the will to get involved anymore. :roll:

ShutUpLegs

I can't see a benefit but I'm happy to keep an open mind

GiantMike

ShutUpLegs wrote:

I can't see a benefit but I'm happy to keep an open mind

If I ever start to get into a discussion on here again, please remind me to use the above phrase.

Trev The Rev

GiantMike wrote:

ShutUpLegs wrote:

I can't see a benefit but I'm happy to keep an open mind

If I ever start to get into a discussion on here again, please remind me to use the above phrase.

Seeing as ShutUpLegs is repeating my own phrase back to me you should realise you are quoting me if you do use it.


I did in fact post the paper because their findings were interesting - personally I find keeping track of response to training more interesting than the measurement of the work. Ideally I would want both. I think in recent years there has been a tendency for some advocates of training with power to rubbish heart rate as being irrelevant.

I had a quick look at your blog, what are you using to measure power?

amaferanga

Yawn.

Trev The Rev

amaferanga wrote:

Yawn.

You obviously can't resist reading my posts.