Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012
gloriousd
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Hi All
I've a hardrock disc which i'm very happy with for my use other than the brakes. What are peoples thoughts on my plans, I've done a little research but am open to suggestions. I'm 6ft and 12 stone, I like to ride through the woods as quick as I can but nothing lunatic. As stated I've got a 2012 hardrock disc.
My planned upgrade path is below:
1. Change front caliper (lever and cable) to shimano M595 (can I keep my stock rotor?)
2. Change the rear to match if i'm happy with the front
3. Upgrade the font fork to Rock Shox or similar mild upgrade part suitable to accept a 180mm rotor - Looking for advise please budget is sub £100 if possible, happy to search ebay for a bargain!
4. Upgrade front rotor to 180mm - again advise on suitable part would be good.
Hope this is enough info and not been covered too many times before.
Cheers
Chris
I've a hardrock disc which i'm very happy with for my use other than the brakes. What are peoples thoughts on my plans, I've done a little research but am open to suggestions. I'm 6ft and 12 stone, I like to ride through the woods as quick as I can but nothing lunatic. As stated I've got a 2012 hardrock disc.
My planned upgrade path is below:
1. Change front caliper (lever and cable) to shimano M595 (can I keep my stock rotor?)
2. Change the rear to match if i'm happy with the front
3. Upgrade the font fork to Rock Shox or similar mild upgrade part suitable to accept a 180mm rotor - Looking for advise please budget is sub £100 if possible, happy to search ebay for a bargain!
4. Upgrade front rotor to 180mm - again advise on suitable part would be good.
Hope this is enough info and not been covered too many times before.
Cheers
Chris
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Stick new Deore brakes on and I doubt you'll need new rotors. Add the money saved on rotors and adapters to the fork budget.I don't do smileys.
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Parktools0 -
As stated above, keep the original rotors. I swapped to M596 Deores on my 2011 Hardrock and kept the same rotors as the original Avid BB5s had been gripping - you'll notice the improvement. Look for bargains on the Rockshox Recon range, they're pretty much the go-to choice for upgrading the HardrockSpecialized Roubaix Elite 2015
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Yup, get 596's.I don't do smileys.
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Or go used....My XT's cost less than new M596's and I recently got some air Recons for £72 off ebay......Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0
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Thanks chaps, am I right in thinking you can swap rotor size and keep the same calliper if I do decide I need to go bigger?
And is there a specific fork you'd recommend or will any of the rock shock range be a good upgrade?
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Bottom end RS are rubbish, like all bottom end forks.I don't do smileys.
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While what cooldad says above may or may not be true, what is true is that any fork you do choose will be fantastic over the stock SunTour fork.
I would stay away from the very very bottom end Rock Shox for - the XC something or other I think it's called.
I had a 2012 Hardrock Sport Disc up until very recently and I had stuck a Rock Shox Recon Silver TK for on it for £100 - completely transformed the bike (For the better).0 -
I went from Avid Juicy 3's to M666 SLX brakes. Rotor wise i have an original Avid cleansweep and a Hope Sawblade, so rotors are very much interchangeable. The Shimano brakes are way way better than the Avids as well.
I second what people are saying about bottom end forks. I had a set of Dart 3's and they seized after about 4 month of gentle riding. If you can, see if you can get some Reba's on Ebay, might struggle to get them for the 100 quid mark though. There is a set on ebay right now with an hour left and the current price is 87 quid plus p&p. Who knows you might get lucky.0 -
XC32 and Recon Silver are great for the money.0
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Just avoid anything undamped with the skinny 28mm stanchions.I don't do smileys.
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Suntour Epicon and Raidon are OK, as are RS Tora (not really much of an upgrade, but a bit) and Recon Silver, Recon Gold saves a bit more weight by having less steel and more aluminium., RS Dart are no better (or maybe even worse) than your current Suntour XCT/M/R (whichever is fitted!).Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0
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OK, im new to all this. I have a Hardrock disk 2011 and have been debating upgrades or buying a new bike as the brakes and forks are not up to trail riding. IN fact there appalling!
Can you put all of the above into english for me so I can follow this thread as it makes for an intersting read but doesnt mean much to me the newbie.
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Which bits don't make sense?I don't do smileys.
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My 15 year old daughter did Cannock FtD on some steel lowered elastomered RST's and Promax discs - MTFU!Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0
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worb68 wrote:OK, im new to all this. I have a Hardrock disk 2011 . . . Can you put all of the above into english for me
1. Congratulations on your purchase, it marks you out as a gentleman of exquisite taste (see below)
2. Swap your heavy forks for a lighter Rockshox Recon
3. Swap your brakes for Shimano Deore
4. Enjoy your much lighter bike that doesn't need its brake pads adjusted after every rideSpecialized Roubaix Elite 2015
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how much are these bits likely to cost? Where are the best places to get them from?
Whats the Stock rotor & front rotor?
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Cost? Look and find out like everyone else does.....
Stock rotor is what you bike has as stock/standard/original part Front rotor is the rotor on the front!
Air Recon, arecon fork that uses air as the spring medium, not a steel coil spring.Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0 -
The Beginner wrote:Cost? Look and find out like everyone else does.....
Stock rotor is what you bike has as stock/standard/original part Front rotor is the BRAKE DISC on the front wheel!
Air Recon, a fork made by ROCK SHOX to which the model is RECON that uses air as the spring medium, not a steel coil spring.
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Here you go £99.99 I don't think you will find a set of forks any cheaper
http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FORSRES80/r ... ut_poplock
Some good discounts on there at the minute, can get some fox forks for 300 or some Reba's for 250 which is good price - personally I would save the pennies wait 6 months and get a really decent set of forks
Keep on upgrading mate - my "project Hardrock 2010" became a SantaCruz Superlight last month - granted nothing left of the original bike but over time if you keep an eye out you can get some good deals online.0 -
Thank you very much everyone. It's a tough one, upgrade or buy new.
Out of interest you project hard rock what have you put on it?0 -
In this order...
Nukeproof Electron pedals
Fox RL100 forks - ex display so only payed 180 for them
Avid Juicy something or other brakes
Easton Haven bar
Fat silicon chunky grips
Raceface evolve 70mm stem
Fulrum Red Power XL wheel set
Shwalbe Rocket Rons
easton ea30 seat post
sella italia something or other seat
Shimano SLX groupset - cranks, derailers ect
Then saw a really good price on a superlight frame for 650 got that last month and moved the bits over
Oddly after saying nothing of original bike left - i was wrong, seat post collar - which promptly fell apart before I went riding this morning so treated myself to a hope seat post collar
Put it all together over the last 2 years really enjoyed it - nice to know no one will have a bike quite like mine0 -
Drzoidberg wrote:Put it all together over the last 2 years really enjoyed it - nice to know no one will have a bike quite like mineSpecialized Hardrock Sport Disc 10- CANYON Nerve AM 6 20110
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Well it was till I bolted the bits onto the Superlight frame, but even when it was a nicely pimped hardrock it was a really nice bike to ride0
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Drzoidberg wrote:but even when it was a nicely pimped hardrock it was a really nice bike to rideSpecialized Hardrock Sport Disc 10- CANYON Nerve AM 6 20110
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Hi all, newly venturing into the MTB section. New to cycling in general and even newer to MTB.
Just came across this thread. I have just got the 2013 model which has Tektro Novela brakes. I assume these are a bit better than the Avids you mentioned as being on the earlier model? Or could they still do with being upgraded to Deores etc?
I take it the same recommendation goes for the fork upgrade to Rock Shox Recons?2015 Specialized Tarmac Expert Ultegra
2016 Focus Mares CX Ultegra
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper HT Comp Carbon 29
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2013 Specialized Hardrock Disc0 -
Recons are a good buy. If the discs work for you, then leave them on.0
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worb68 wrote:how much are these bits likely to cost? Where are the best places to get them from?
Whats the Stock rotor & front rotor?
Air Recon?
Don't forget your please & thank you Timothy.0