Heinrich Haussler

TMR
TMR Posts: 3,986
edited January 2013 in Pro race
What's he doing? Haven't heard much about him recently.
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Moved to the new IAM team. One step back to try to get career back on track, and all that.
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    To answer my own question he's joined the IAM Pro Continental Team. A demotion then?

    Full Team is:

    Marcel Aregger
    Marco Bandiera
    Matthias Brandle
    Rémi Cusin
    Stefan Denifl
    Martin Elmiger
    Jonathan Fumeaux
    Kristoff Goddaert
    Heinrich Haussler
    Sébastien Hinault
    Reto Hollenstein
    Kevyn Ista
    Dominic Klemme
    Permin Lang
    Gustav Larsson
    Thomas Löfkvist
    Matteo Pelucchi
    Alexandr Pliuschin
    Sébastien Reichenbach
    Aleksejs Saramotins
    Patrick Schelling
    Johann Tschopp
    Marcel Wyss
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Moved to the new IAM team. One step back to try to get career back on track, and all that.

    Ninja! Thanks ;)
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Remember these days?...

    tdf09st13-win.jpg
    Contador is the Greatest
  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    He was seriously good that season (2009). Still, he's 28 so no reason why a few good results this season won't see him back with the big boys.
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Self-confidence downward spiral, innit

    Be interesting to see whether Lovkvist can also resurrect his career - or whether he just reached his potential and that was it
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Self-confidence downward spiral, innit

    Agree. Think things would have been quite different for him if he had won Milan San Remo in 2009.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Be interesting to see whether Lovkvist can also resurrect his career - or whether he just reached his potential and that was it

    Been a while

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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Self-confidence downward spiral, innit

    Agree. Think things would have been quite different for him if he had won Milan San Remo in 2009.


    Yeah, seems to have eaten away at him, that one
  • samb01
    samb01 Posts: 130
    What's the mystery? He stopped 'skiing' in St.Moritz as part of his preparation. That's all there is to it.
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Remember these days?...

    tdf09st13-win.jpg

    Indeed I do - that footage was used in 'Chasing Legends' :mrgreen:
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Yeah, seems to have eaten away at him, that one

    Agreed. To lose it on the line was particularly cruel, but that's racing. Cav sprinted like a mofo and deserved the win. Haussler had a real issue with him after that and seemed to cry and b*tch about Cav at every opportunity.

    I really don't understand why he dropped a level though. He came 2nd in 4 stages of the ToC last year, he's hardly crap?
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    I really don't understand why he dropped a level though. He came 2nd in 4 stages of the ToC last year, he's hardly crap?

    Maybe Garmin didn't want him anymore. I think they have been quite patient with him. I think I would have dropped him before now.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Yeah, seems to have eaten away at him, that one

    Agreed. To lose it on the line was particularly cruel, but that's racing. Cav sprinted like a mofo and deserved the win. Haussler had a real issue with him after that and seemed to cry and b*tch about Cav at every opportunity.

    I really don't understand why he dropped a level though. He came 2nd in 4 stages of the ToC last year, he's hardly crap?


    Garmin defo didnt want him any more (mind you, JV has endless patience with Tyler...). Can only assume little interest from other PT teams...?
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    I really don't understand why he dropped a level though. He came 2nd in 4 stages of the ToC last year, he's hardly crap?

    Maybe Garmin didn't want him anymore. I think they have been quite patient with him. I think I would have dropped him before now.

    Pro teams aren't normally fussed on renewing with guys who rack up loads of 2nd places in sprints.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,454
    His wages would've been substantial too, so you could probably hire two or three up and coming talents for the price of a busted flush.
  • Bakunin
    Bakunin Posts: 868
    Is he a busted flush? I know that last couple of years weren't great -- but he's just 28.

    He couldn't catch a ride with any protour team? Was he that pricey?

    Re: Garmin -- is HH any worse than Tommy D, Tyler, and CVV?

    I always liked him.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Bakunin wrote:
    Is he a busted flush? I know that last couple of years weren't great -- but he's just 28.

    He couldn't catch a ride with any protour team? Was he that pricey?

    Re: Garmin -- is HH any worse than Tommy D, Tyler, and CVV?

    I always liked him.


    Tommy D- Top 10 in the 2011 Tour
    CVV- Eye catching break/team role in the Giro win, road captain.
    Farrar- You've got me there.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,179
    I think he's possibly not quite sure which way he should go - is he a sprinter or a classics rider with a good sprint? He is on the edge of both but not really top tier in either.
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Pross wrote:
    I think he's possibly not quite sure which way he should go - is he a sprinter or a classics rider with a good sprint? He is on the edge of both but not really top tier in either.

    Good point. I think he'd be better concentrating on being a classics/breakaway specialist, he's certainly not a top tier sprinter.

    I think confidence is a problem for him, and he's very good at blaming everybody else for his problems.
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Bakunin wrote:
    Is he a busted flush? I know that last couple of years weren't great -- but he's just 28.

    He couldn't catch a ride with any protour team? Was he that pricey?

    Re: Garmin -- is HH any worse than Tommy D, Tyler, and CVV?

    I always liked him.


    Well, he certainly stays upright on the bike more than crashtastic Tyler.

    As for whether he's any worse than Tommy D or CVV, besides any results they've had, he doesnt share the pasts that mean they'll be at Garmin until the end of their careers, right?
  • Bakunin
    Bakunin Posts: 868
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Bakunin wrote:
    Is he a busted flush? I know that last couple of years weren't great -- but he's just 28.

    He couldn't catch a ride with any protour team? Was he that pricey?

    Re: Garmin -- is HH any worse than Tommy D, Tyler, and CVV?

    I always liked him.


    Tommy D- Top 10 in the 2011 Tour
    CVV- Eye catching break/team role in the Giro win, road captain.
    Farrar- You've got me there.

    I hear you.

    But JV waited on Tommy D for a long time; CVV became a different rider with Garmin.

    In the classics, does HH gets squeezed by the presence of Maaskant and Van Summeren?
  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    Maaskant?! Hahahahaha.

    Don't forget Nuyens.
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  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    I really don't understand why he dropped a level though. He came 2nd in 4 stages of the ToC last year, he's hardly crap?

    Maybe Garmin didn't want him anymore. I think they have been quite patient with him. I think I would have dropped him before now.

    Pro teams aren't normally fussed on renewing with guys who rack up loads of 2nd places in sprints.

    Why haven't they dropped Donkey Tyler then? He's a ******* crap sprinter. He never wins a sprint ever, except in some pathetic chipper. I'm ignoring the stage of the TdF he won and dedicated to Wouter obviously.
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Yeah, I agree with Pross. Fast enough to top 10 against elite sprinter, fast enough to podium against those sprinters who can climb a bit, strong enough to make selections in the classics, but not strong or fast enough to win them.

    With a bit of luck he'll find himself in races without the likes of Sagan, Matthews, EBH etc so he can win some of those more selective sprint stages. Maybe get some confidence back.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    I'm ignoring the stage of the TdF he won and dedicated to Wouter obviously.

    And the 2 stages in the Giro and 3 in the Vuelta. Oh and he's won two stages at the Tour.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    I really don't understand why he dropped a level though. He came 2nd in 4 stages of the ToC last year, he's hardly crap?

    Maybe Garmin didn't want him anymore. I think they have been quite patient with him. I think I would have dropped him before now.

    Pro teams aren't normally fussed on renewing with guys who rack up loads of 2nd places in sprints.

    Why haven't they dropped Donkey Tyler then? He's a ******* crap sprinter. He never wins a sprint ever, except in some pathetic chipper. I'm ignoring the stage of the TdF he won and dedicated to Wouter obviously.

    See above, I have no idea.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Haussler. Good talent. I think from interviews I've read in the past he really struggles with discipline.

    Needs his stars and head aligned to really get where he needs to be.

    Bugger me he was exciting in 2009.
    _
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    You either have the Vaughters loyalty membership card - or you dont

    Tyler has it
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    And the 2 stages in the Giro and 3 in the Vuelta. Oh and he's won two stages at the Tour.

    Across a career that's nothing to get excited about is it? Or am I being particularly harsh because I don't like him? I still think he's crap.

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