Canyon Nerve AL+

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  • tudj
    tudj Posts: 254
    I tried with more air in the rear on Tuesday night and it did seem better. I think I slightly misunderstood the way CTD works too :oops:
    Thanks for the feedback. All I've heard is good about this bike, think I'm gonna order one over next few days.

    You won't regret it! Order a spare mech hanger (No. 21 for the AL+) with it, that way you don't have to pay £8 postage if you need to buy one later on plus it's always nice to have a spare :)
  • Just become a member as wanted to get some opinions and advice from fellow nerve AL+ owners. Having a few issues which Canyon think are fine.

    Rear wheel doesn't sit symmetrically in the seatstays, when viewed from above the tyre sits nearer the brake side than the drive side. Is this just the way it is or is there a problem with my frame/hub.

    Talas fork doesn't drop to 120mm from 150mm, best I can get is 130mm, got about 65psi in there.

    Both front and rear suspension seem to use a lot of travel on small bumps, 200psi in rear 65psi in front weigh 75kg. Bunny hop of a kerb and the black guide ring is nearly at full travel.

    Thanks in advance
  • Thewaylander
    Thewaylander Posts: 8,594
    Both front and rear suspension seem to use a lot of travel on small bumps, 200psi in rear 65psi in front weigh 75kg. Bunny hop of a kerb and the black guide ring is nearly at full travel.

    Thanks in advance

    Just remeber withthe rear shock that the guide ring is point down with gravity, so a few knocks and they slide all the way down anyway.
  • tudj
    tudj Posts: 254
    Just become a member as wanted to get some opinions and advice from fellow nerve AL+ owners. Having a few issues which Canyon think are fine.

    Rear wheel doesn't sit symmetrically in the seatstays, when viewed from above the tyre sits nearer the brake side than the drive side. Is this just the way it is or is there a problem with my frame/hub.

    Talas fork doesn't drop to 120mm from 150mm, best I can get is 130mm, got about 65psi in there.

    Both front and rear suspension seem to use a lot of travel on small bumps, 200psi in rear 65psi in front weigh 75kg. Bunny hop of a kerb and the black guide ring is nearly at full travel.

    Thanks in advance

    My rear wheel/tyre is straight and in the middle. I haven't played with the TALAS much at all, I seem to remember my forks only dropping an inch or so when the left hand dial was at the minimum setting, I don't use that function of the forks and have no idea what the travel should be at it's shortest.

    65Psi seems very low for your weight, I weigh about the same and I'm sure I have about 100psi in them, I'll check when I get home.
  • tudj
    tudj Posts: 254
    I was wrong, I have 75PSI in the forks.

    I checked the TALAS adjust again, I only lose about 20mm of travel too.
  • thanks for that, think i'll need to play with the psi until the suspension feels like it's not swallowing all the travel.

    as for the rear wheel think i'll photo and send to Canyon, just out of interest does your rear axle go through easily or is it a bit of a wiggle to get it through to the point where you can start engaging the thread. hoping there's not a problem with the rear swingarm, concerned about how it could effect bearings and hubs over time.
  • tudj
    tudj Posts: 254
    I usually have to move the wheel around slightly, when it's sat in the dropouts it isn't quite lined up with the holes in the frame, not by much but enough to stop the axle going all the way through to the thread, lifting the wheel a few mm sorts it though :)

    Sending a pic sounds like a good idea, if they're saying there's nothing wrong they might have misunderstood, it certainly doesn't sound right to me!
  • Hi mate,

    How long was delivery assuming it was in stock?

    Cheers!
  • tudj
    tudj Posts: 254
    Hi mate,

    How long was delivery assuming it was in stock?

    Cheers!

    I preordered it so waited about 2 months :P it took about 5-6 days from the point they took payment / told me it had been forwarded to the courier.
  • Dam0-MSC
    Dam0-MSC Posts: 21
    Stunning bike mate!
    Pride and joy
    MSC - Hunter
  • Right have spoken to both Mojo and Canyon...

    Mojo say that the squeak in climb mode on the forks can be resolved by swapping to a firmer spring currently Medium, Canyon are happy to do this under warranty.

    The TALAS fork according to Mojo only drops (stanchion) from 150mm to 130mm, BUT only uses 120mm of travel, this is normal.

    Mojo also say that the new CTD forks and shocks are more linear hence the feeling of bottoming out/blowing through travel. This can be fixed with an Air Spring Tuning Kit, basically play around with these until you get the sweet spot.

    As for my rear wheel not sitting correctly within the Seatstay, still ongoing sending photos to Canyon this week, since noticed that viewed from the front the rear wheel isn't in line with the top tube which definitely seems wrong. :(
  • tudj
    tudj Posts: 254
    I'll take a look at the Air Spring kits, cheers.

    It sounds like Canyon are treating you right too :) Hope you get something sorted with that wonky wheel!
  • Sent them the photos today (Wednesday) we'll wait and see...

    post when i get a reply
  • tudj wrote:
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    Already looking at changes... first thing on the list is going tubeless.

    Got my Nerve AL+ 8 a few days ago.
    Tudj mine has tubeless - seems they may have changed the spec since you bought yours?

    Some sizing info for those thinking of going for the plunge...
    Was really nervous about this as my current bike (2008 Zaskar Pro 18") I feel cramped and the one previous (1998 Marin Rift Zone 19") felt like I was perched high on a penny farthing so when I tried the PPS system on Canyon's website and it stated I was a "Medium" I was kind've confused.
    I'm 6'2" with a fairly long inseam and on the Zaskar I had to get a 400m layback seat post and fit the saddle on the rails right back. Plus running a 110mm stem which slowed the steering somewhat to make the bike any kind've fit for my size. It's a great XC bike and exceptionally light and chuckable but just wasn't confidence inspiring on the really rough and fast stuff, as I felt too far pitched forward. Maybe a "large" version of the Zaskar would've been better but hey ho.
    Anyway after chatting to a mate who knows infinitely ore than I do about bikes he suggested if I liked the fit of my Zaskar (I don't) to go with a medium and with a quick call to Canyon in Germany it sorted my decision to order a large. The German guy there spoke excellent English and after I gave him some body measurements he said I should go for the large. BTW the UK call line was next to useless for me as you get an answer-phone message to leave your number but no-one ever got back to me about my sizing worry (via email either).
    But there was still that nagging doubt about the size; is the large going to be like my old Marin? Am I going to feel far too high up to really put the power down without feeling like I'm miles away up from the trail?

    Once I got the bike I spent the evening putting it together, fettling, admiring, worrying, even to the point of not announcing I'd finally got it to my mates because I thought it might have to go back. Just so you know Canyon had agreed that they would exchange for a different size if need be as long as the bike was "as new". I assumed from this they meant a bimble around the tarmac road in the dry and not a thrap down the local mudfest woods! But if I had to exchange would I get it in time for the biking trip to Antur Stiniog in a few weeks?!
    Built up the bike looked a beast and well solid. Compared to my thrifty Zaskar this looked like the Mr T of bikes! With the chunky tapered head tube and 150mm forks it also looked big! So I kept most of the protective packing attached, and didn't even fit the front brake lever or reverb remote (again this was all kept in the bubble wrap) as I was convincing myself that it would have to go back and i'd need the medium (ever the pessimist!).

    As the rain finally subsided and the roads around me dried a little I decided to give her a little shimmy around the block. Boy what a revelation. Nowhere near as much stand over as my Zaskar and certainly a lot to get used to but shit it rocked. Ok it was just a light 10 minute spin on tarmac and off the odd curb but I was loving it. In fact at one point I thought that I should have gone for XL! But quickly diminished when I checked the jump in reach and top tube length from the large to the X large. That would be waaay too much. No, I have to concede the Large is the right size for me. And the reverb post is quality. Even on the tarmac i can get a sense of why all my mates rave about them. So now I'm chuffed, all bits fitted, all packing removed, and I really want to take her out for a proper thrapping.
    So in short don't rely too much on Canyon's PPS and if in real doubt phone them. Check the specs of your existing ride, especially reach, stand-over and definitely top tube length and if you're happy with that then match it up the the Canyon size nearest to your current steed. And when it comes just check it out around the road to be 100% sure.

    Will post an update when I take her out for a proper hammer!
  • tudj
    tudj Posts: 254
    tudj wrote:
    Got my Nerve AL+ 8 a few days ago.
    Tudj mine has tubeless - seems they may have changed the spec since you bought yours?

    Mine has UST rims and UST tyres but they don't come set up tubeless, they put tubes in. What I meant by my comment was that I'll be getting some tubeless valves and sealant and having them running as tubeless. I've not got around to it yet though :P

    A recent pic taken in Morocco while I'm here... :D

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