Seven Deadly Sins

Garry H

frenchfighter wrote:

My favourite free climbing is this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk-xKURGwpI

Aye, that's crazy stuff fromthe late Dan Osman.

Pedantic, but that's solo climbing

ocdupalais

Climbing can be a weird one in that there clearly is competitiveness and ego at stake in many situations, but for some it's more about the style in which things are climbed and the ethos. Possibly a bit like with martial arts where there is always a pressure from some to determine which/who's the best (hence Mixed Martial Arts?), whereas the "true exponents" would attest that they would never disrespect their discipline by "competing"... It's not about that.

But for the "popular vote": what are you more likely to watch on YouTube; some bloke methodically climbing up a dull route at a snail's pace (whilst being safety conscious), or some nutter belting up an impossible incline more or less in a Mankini?

Spot any comparisons with pro cycling?

shinyhelmut

Time for a bit of sport climbing.

Johnny Dawes on Quarryman;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLyF8zcP674&feature=youtube_gdata_player

"Stone Monkey" is a great film if you can put up with the '80s fashion. I don't think it's Laurent Brochard belaying Johnny in the clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOz5VKMp3CY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

shinyhelmut

And a bit of grit. Pete Whittaker on "Dynamics of Change"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7dPa2MGqhE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Garry H

ShinyHelmut wrote:

And a bit of grit. Pete Whittaker on "Dynamics of Change"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7dPa2MGqhE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Tis proper climbing that!None of your sports nonsense

yourpaceormine

I don't know you pop over to UKClimbing forum and talk is all about cycling, come here and talk is about God's own rock gritstone. What next British gas selling electricity, and the lecky board selling gas? Madness I tell you, madness!

heavymental

Garry H wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

My favourite free climbing is this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk-xKURGwpI

Aye, that's crazy stuff fromthe late Dan Osman.

Pedantic, but that's solo climbing

Do you ever get that weird ache in your body somewhere (in my case; the feet) when you watch something crazy like that or look off the edge of a cliff and consider jumping!? I do.. and watching that guy dyno up to that flake on that climb really made them go. Crazy stuff.

Garry H

Heavymental wrote:

Garry H wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

My favourite free climbing is this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk-xKURGwpI

Aye, that's crazy stuff fromthe late Dan Osman.

Pedantic, but that's solo climbing

Do you ever get that weird ache in your body somewhere (in my case; the feet) when you watch something crazy like that or look off the edge of a cliff and consider jumping!? I do.. and watching that guy dyno up to that flake on that climb really made them go. Crazy stuff.

i know what you mean. unfortunately though,i still get the ache in my shoulder from a three year old ac separation .as well!

No_Ta_Doctor

Garry H wrote:

Heavymental wrote:

Garry H wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

My favourite free climbing is this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk-xKURGwpI

Aye, that's crazy stuff fromthe late Dan Osman.

Pedantic, but that's solo climbing

Do you ever get that weird ache in your body somewhere (in my case; the feet) when you watch something crazy like that or look off the edge of a cliff and consider jumping!? I do.. and watching that guy dyno up to that flake on that climb really made them go. Crazy stuff.

i know what you mean. unfortunately though,i still get the ache in my shoulder from a three year old ac separation .as well!

I just get vertigo.

Never a climber, but in my 20s I did a fair amount of scrambling in N. Wales, the Lakes and Scotland - even some of the less tricky bits of the Black Cuillins. Now I can barely walk a bit of coastal path without feeling a little dizzy. Coincidentally, OCDuPalais, the last bit I walked was a stroll to Baggy Point in N. Devon :-)

frenchfighter

The last remains of sunlight fall on the summit of Cerro Stanhardt in Patagonia, Argentina as Stephan Siegrist completes his climb in August, 2012.


1st Place/Places: THE MATTERHORN - The Matterhorn, 4478 meters at full moon. (Photo and caption by Nenad Saljic/National Geographic Photo Contest)

rick_chasey

Just got given a kindle fire.

Is 7 deadly sins worth getting?

nic_77

Yes it certainly is. Walsh writes very fluidly and it is extremely interesting to read his perspective on what has essentially been an all consuming quest for him. We have all followed the Lance Armstrong story avidly over the years, whilst Walsh has invested in it heavily from a professional and emotional perspective. There are some interesting accounts of the direct and indirect exchanges between the two, as well as the book providing a revealing insight into the life of a (very good) journalist.

My only complaint is that it might be out a bit soon, there must surely be one or two more chapters to write one day!

ratsbeyfus

I'd say no if you've read 'From Lance to Landis' and are up to speed on the all the recent developments in the whole saga. David Walsh is great, and has done more than anyone to expose the LA myth, but Seven Deadly Sins is a bit like a lap of honour/memoir. Lots of fun anecdotes about his years as a cycling journo, but nothing new or particularly interesting in the book, except for some potshots at Sean Kelly and Stephen Roche.

Vino'sGhost

Garry H wrote:

ShinyHelmut wrote:

Garry H wrote:

Another thing common between the two sports is the obsession with lightweight gear and strength to weight ratios

and discussions of ethics

Don't even start me onthat one

Mountaineering? its all about getting high isnt it?