Do you bother with mudguards ?

jimmypippa

Kieran_Burns wrote:

Did ANYONE get that I was being sarcastic there? :?

Yes - I was just highlighting the alternative explanation that also supported your point.

byke68

should I have mudguards? - yes
Have I bothered? = no
am I bothered? - no

If I get covered in road dirt, so be it. I have something called a washing machine for my clothes and the bike will get cleaned at some point.

redderekthelampshade

You're right, I don't really care about people around me.. If you're getting sprayed by my wheel water then you're too close.. As for my drivetrain you're also correct.. It's a bike, it gets washed and if it breaks it gets fixed.. Meh..

Paul E

I would rather stay drier and more comfortable and therefore able spend more time on the bike without getting a chill

Hoopdriver

redderekthelampshade wrote:

You're right, I don't really care about people around me.. If you're getting sprayed by my wheel water then you're too close.. As for my drivetrain you're also correct.. It's a bike, it gets washed and if it breaks it gets fixed.. Meh..

Can you say 'solipsist'?

simon_masterson

daviesee wrote:

Ask the person behind you.
Or the person washing your jerseys/jackets.
A CX bike is a work horse to be used in foul conditions, not a prancing bling bike.

Short answer - Yes.

This.

simon_masterson

redderekthelampshade wrote:

You're right, I don't really care about people around me.. If you're getting sprayed by my wheel water then you're too close.. As for my drivetrain you're also correct.. It's a bike, it gets washed and if it breaks it gets fixed.. Meh..

So your victims aren't actually riding with you, then.

chadders81

Apologies if this has been posted but if you're soaked by the person in front, grow some bollocks and drop them.

If you can't do that, get out training and build some power.

chadders81

That was meant to say b o l l o c k s.

greg66_tri_v2.0

Chadders81 wrote:

Apologies if this has been posted but if you're soaked by the person in front, grow some **** and drop them.

If you can't do that, get out training and build some power.

Exactly. People whining that "wah, I'm getting wet sitting in behind someone on a rainy day letting them do my work for me" deserve nowt.

meanredspider

Chadders81 wrote:

Apologies if this has been posted but if you're soaked by the person in front, grow some **** and drop them.

If you can't do that, get out training and build some power.

Last time this happened to me was crossing the Kessock Bridge. Short of picking the guy up and throwing him into the sea, I was stuck between the two sets of railings. Every time I asked to pass, he just sped up a little (but nothing like enough). When we did finally both stop to cross the road, I did thank him for covering my front in sh!t. If you're not going to use mudguards, please stay out of the way...

ETA - I have the Strava KoM for that segment so I know that getting faster isn't going to help

chadders81

Would Cancellara have got soaked? No. Always room for improvement.

meanredspider

Chadders81 wrote:

Would Cancellara have got soaked? No. Always room for improvement.

No - he'd have ridden over the top of the guy, I'm sure... :roll:

daviesee

Chadders81 wrote:

Would Cancellara have got soaked? No. Always room for improvement.

:roll:

greg66_tri_v2.0

meanredspider wrote:

Chadders81 wrote:

Apologies if this has been posted but if you're soaked by the person in front, grow some **** and drop them.

If you can't do that, get out training and build some power.

Last time this happened to me was crossing the Kessock Bridge. Short of picking the guy up and throwing him into the sea, I was stuck between the two sets of railings. Every time I asked to pass, he just sped up a little (but nothing like enough). When we did finally both stop to cross the road, I did thank him for covering my front in sh!t. If you're not going to use mudguards, please stay out of the way...

ETA - I have the Strava KoM for that segment so I know that getting faster isn't going to help

In those rather unusual circs, isn't the answer to drop back?

meanredspider

Greg66 Tri v2.0 wrote:

In those rather unusual circs, isn't the answer to drop back?

By dropping back, there was no chance of passing the guy for the 1km+ of the bridge. I guess I should have realised that if they guy isn't considerate enough to think about the fact he didn't have guards on and therefore covering me in sh!t he'd also not be considerate enough to give me room to pass. Instead, he wanted to try to show he was quicker than me...

jimmypippa

As we are not actually racing, but cycling as part of the traffic I'd say it is inconsiderate in wet weather.

Cycling up a hill with someone like that, the closing velocities are going to be slow, so that even if someone does go past they'll get covered beforehand.

Why should I make it unpleasant for someone else?

redderekthelampshade

No, my 'victims' aren't riding with me as I cycle to work.. If a little spray concerns you feel free to try overtake me is my general feeling on the matter.

daviesee

There are only two reasons for not fitting guards.
Looks and weight.

A clarty* bike does not look good.
A clarty rider does not look good.

Unless you are in an Elite race, the weight won't make the slightest bit of difference.

So what's the real reason then?
It can't be laziness and selfishness can it?


*Clarty is an underused word these days.

meanredspider

redderekthelampshade wrote:

No, my 'victims' aren't riding with me as I cycle to work.. If a little spray concerns you feel free to try overtake me is my general feeling on the matter.

Provided there's space to overtake you or you make space. Speaking personally, I don't much like a face full of road crap. Normally, if I've caught up with you, I'm plenty fast enough to find the 6' more to pass you

meanredspider

daviesee wrote:

*Clarty is an underused word these days.

I think it was always "underused" in England. I never heard it before I moved to Scotland

Hoopdriver

Chadders81 wrote:

Apologies if this has been posted but if you're soaked by the person in front, grow some **** and drop them.

If you can't do that, get out training and build some power.

My, aren't we macho...

daviesee

meanredspider wrote:

daviesee wrote:

*Clarty is an underused word these days.

I think it was always "underused" in England. I never heard it before I moved to Scotland

or outwith.
So many others........ American & text speak are overwriting the words of days (not so long ago) gone by.

chadders81

Hoopdriver wrote:

Chadders81 wrote:

Apologies if this has been posted but if you're soaked by the person in front, grow some **** and drop them.

If you can't do that, get out training and build some power.

My, aren't we macho...

Aren't we humourless?

vermin

daviesee wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

daviesee wrote:

*Clarty is an underused word these days.

I think it was always "underused" in England. I never heard it before I moved to Scotland

or outwith.
So many others........ American & text speak are overwriting the words of days (not so long ago) gone by.

Still very much alive in lawyer-speak, in my experience. Not a fan of outwith though, clumsy word.

As for the thread subject - wish I'd left time to fit them to the bike this morning - might have saved an hour of post-ride cleaning. :P

meanredspider

daviesee wrote:

or outwith.
So many others........ American & text speak are overwriting the words of days (not so long ago) gone by.

Yup - another word seemingly only used in Scotland. I'd come across the use of "without" meaning the same thing (outside) - some hymn or other "There is a green hill far away without a city wall"

meanredspider

Chadders81 wrote:

Hoopdriver wrote:

Chadders81 wrote:

Apologies if this has been posted but if you're soaked by the person in front, grow some **** and drop them.

If you can't do that, get out training and build some power.

My, aren't we macho...

Aren't we humourless?

Don't tell me that it wasn't exactly the reaction you were looking for in your mini-troll... :roll:

First.Aspect

meanredspider wrote:

daviesee wrote:

or outwith.
So many others........ American & text speak are overwriting the words of days (not so long ago) gone by.

Yup - another word seemingly only used in Scotland. I'd come across the use of "without" meaning the same thing (outside) - some hymn or other "There is a green hill far away without a city wall"

Is "blethering" Scots only? Ir does it trickle down to the north east as well?

I have a Collins Scots dictionary somewhere.

jimmypippa

daviesee wrote:

There are only two reasons for not fitting guards.
Looks and weight.

A clarty* bike does not look good.
A clarty rider does not look good.

Unless you are in an Elite race, the weight won't make the slightest bit of difference.

So what's the real reason then?
It can't be laziness and selfishness can it?


*Clarty is an underused word these days.

And dropping weight from the rider is probably a better bet anyway, so unless you are in an Elite race, train harder to loose that weight to compensate, if that is your inclination.

or with obvious sarcasm tags

Kieran_Burns wrote:

Mudguards?

Hell No!

Why bother???

You just need to wash your clothes more often
Clean your bike more often
Replace your clothes more often
Replace parts on your bike more often
Get soaking wet feet every time it rains
You annoy everyone around you
Smell more

Mudguards? Nah.

meanredspider

First Aspect wrote:

Is "blethering" Scots only? Ir does it trickle down to the north east as well?

I have a Collins Scots dictionary somewhere.

Again, I've only heard it in Scotland.