Cyclists are faster than buses.

mybreakfastconsisted
mybreakfastconsisted Posts: 1,018
edited December 2012 in Commuting chat
I need some evidence, I know it's self-evident to any commuter but I'm in an argument with a penis. Put your facts, figures and unverifiable anecdotes here.
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  • Of course cycling is faster. There's no need to prove such a thing. Lol. Buses have to stop in about 30 seconds after leaving the stop they just stopped at to stop at another stop. Most cyclists will be up to 23mph in about 4 - 6 seconds. That bus is still changing gears hehe
  • Is there still such a thing as a bus timetable? That would show pretty clearly. That, or ride a bus with your GPS device running and record it.
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  • My commute is very short so a bus would just be comical. However getting to my rowing club is 8 miles, including about 3-4 miles of open road (ie where bus is faster). I can bike it in around 25 mins, 30 if there is traffic and I am going at a relaxed pace. If I want to take the bus, I have a 4 min walk to the bus stop at my end, a 1-15 min wait for the bus depending on if it is on time, the bus takes about 25 mins in no traffic, up to an hour in monday morning traffic, and I have a 10 min walk at the other end.
    So bike is 25-30 mins, bus is about 40-70 mins.

    Hope that was helpful.
    Rob
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    I need some evidence, I know it's self-evident to any commuter but I'm in an argument with a penis.
    I didn't know you could speak 'dick'. Then again, it all makes sense now....

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  • graham.
    graham. Posts: 862
    It used to take me longer to walk from my door to the bus stop, and then from my destination to work, than it did to just cycle to work. :D




    Of course that was before they made me redundant! :cry:
  • bushu
    bushu Posts: 711
    to get to my place of work it's 2-3 buses plus a mile walk, each way
    factor in that they turn up once a blue moon and regularly knock, so you miss the connecting journey
    It's only 5 miles... takes me 15 mins depending on traffic near M1 or 2+ hours stood about freezing
    actually quicker walking than pt.. knowing this due to a snapped chain :roll:
  • yeah, you are right , cycling is faster. There's no need to prove such a thing. thanks1.gif
  • bushu
    bushu Posts: 711
    By 'eck that was hairy.. Still 15 mins with a thick carpet of frost I'm either getting faster or stupider an I didn't think the latter was possible o_0

    Got to the m1 fly over not feeling like playing chicken with the cars so took the cycle/ped route, bit of a scare wondering if I could stop if the lights change and only nearly decked the once..
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    Well, it takes around 50 minutes from the nearest bus-stop with a direct bus to get to work. Oh, you need to add in the 30 minute walk to said bus-stop.
    This morning, at a tasty -6° with a slight headwind and significant ice on a lot of the route, it took around 1:16 by bike. In summer it ranges from 0:56 to 1:30 depending on wind and weather.

    So it's faster by bike - and this is an entirely rural commute.
  • The problem with public transport is waiting time for them to arrive. if it's a journey that requires a few changes can end up waiting a fair bit.
  • vermin
    vermin Posts: 1,739
    Dead heat.

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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,894
    If I get a bus to work it takes an hour and I have to leave the house by 7:30. Cycling takes 25 minutes including faffing and I can leave at 8.
    No brainer to me. But, if you're arguing with a penis with no brain you'll never convince him.
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Sensible answer: a bicycle is less affected by the time consuming pressures that surround it when travelling from A-B.

    A bus has to stop at arguably every bus stop and is more affected by traffic, traffic calming measures than a bike. The journey time is also affected by the fact that the person has to walk to the bus stop, wait for the bus and walk to their destination.

    The less stopping you have to do the quicker your journey, the more continuous movement - bikes can filter through traffic - the faster the overall journey.
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  • The 155 from Tooting Bec to the Elephant in the 8am rush hour takes circa 40 mins. On the bike it takes around 20 mins.
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    The 87 from Wandsworth Plain to Aldwych can take anywhere from 1 to over 2 hours. Same on the bike takes me around 22 minutes.

    Christ the other day I walked from Fleet St to KX, missed the bus but kept in it sight the whole way and eventually overtook it just before the station - that's over 1.5 miles. So in London even walking can be faster.
  • peat
    peat Posts: 1,242
    Don't forget to factor in getting kitted up and getting changed/washed the other end.

    For my commute in rural Oxfordshire -

    Car - 25mins
    Bike - 40mins + shower
    Bus - 1hr 10.
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    The 87 from Wandsworth Plain to Aldwych can take anywhere from 1 to over 2 hours. Same on the bike takes me around 22 minutes.

    Christ the other day I walked from Fleet St to KX, missed the bus but kept in it sight the whole way and eventually overtook it just before the station - that's over 1.5 miles. So in London even walking can be faster.
    That's why at some underground stations they tell you its faster to walk between stations than take any other form of transport.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,881
    The 87 from Wandsworth Plain to Aldwych can take anywhere from 1 to over 2 hours. Same on the bike takes me around 22 minutes.

    Christ the other day I walked from Fleet St to KX, missed the bus but kept in it sight the whole way and eventually overtook it just before the station - that's over 1.5 miles. So in London even walking can be faster.

    That's a pretty extreme example - out in the, erm, outer suburbs, buses are more competitive, although they oftewn take rather labyrinthine routes. That said, the other day, I 'raced' Mrs RJS from Putney to Carshalton - me on the bike, her in the car with the littl'uns and a large pot plant. 7.7 miles and I had time to make a cup of tea, before the Mrs pulled into the drive. That was on a Saturday evening, so it just shows how a few bottle necks like Wimbledon high street can really slow things up.
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  • adskis
    adskis Posts: 85
    Sorry to put a spanner in the works here but the bus would definitely be faster going to work on average for me. The bus to my work takes about 20 mins and the stop is about 5 mins walk from my door and they run every 10 mins. The fastest time I have ever done the commute is 28 minutes and I was a sweaty wreck at the end of it. In winter especially it takes at least 35 mins on the bike door to door, and then I have to get ready for work at when I arrive.

    On the way home it is usually a lot closer. The traffic is worse and I go faster. I think that it would be very close over a whole week, but I do think that the bus would probably win.

    Of course then I would feel the need to go for a run/go to the gym/go for a ride etc., after I got home on the bus. :-)
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Peat wrote:
    Don't forget to factor in getting kitted up and getting changed/washed the other end.

    I never understand that argument. I shower every morning. If I take the bus/train then I shower before leaving, if I cycle I shower when I arrive...
  • rubertoe
    rubertoe Posts: 3,994
    I never understand this arguement either - surely people get dressed before the go out regardless of the transport.
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  • I need some evidence, I know it's self-evident to any commuter but I'm in an argument with a penis. Put your facts, figures and unverifiable anecdotes here.

    Is this something you can't see eye to eye on?
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  • peat
    peat Posts: 1,242
    It's quite simple.

    It's about what time you are sat at your desk, ready to work. If i drive to work, i can leave the house at 7am and be beavering away by 7:30.

    If i ride in, i will have to leave at 6:30am to account for the 40min ride and a shower when i get there.

    (I shower in the evenings normally btw)

    So, in terms of 'what is faster', i think you should include everything door-to-desk.

    I try to tell that to the guy here who arrives half an hour after me everyday by bike. Then has some breakfast. Then saunters off to the showers at about 9. Finally gets doing some work about half 9 and then leaves at the same time as me. Grrrrr.
  • There's a bus stop about 100 yrds from my house. If I take the bus, which I haven't done in about 15 years, it would take about 40 minutes to get the 6 miles into the town centre.

    If I cycle, I can get into town in about 25 minutes without even trying ... and I've managed it in 16 minutes before, without any RLJ'ing.
  • According to the bus timetable, the bus from where I live (non-stop) to Inverness at rush hour takes 40 minutes. Trouble is, I work outside Inverness and can do the ride in summer in 50 mins. Outside rush hour, the bus takes 22 minutes - I couldn't beat that.
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  • TheStone
    TheStone Posts: 2,291
    I'd ban buses. If you're on one, you really don't have anywhere you need to be.
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  • rubertoe
    rubertoe Posts: 3,994
    edited December 2012
    If I ride (which I do everyday), I get to work at 7:15 (leaving at 6:10ish) and am at my desk by 7:30. If I get the bus it would take at least 2 hours and would mean leaving my home at 5:15 to get to work for 7:30 (granted I could get the tube but the question was about the bus).

    The Tube takes about 1 Hour plus a 15 minute walk.
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  • rubertoe wrote:
    I never understand this arguement either - surely people get dressed before the go out regardless of the transport.

    Yeeesss, but cyclists (usually) have to change clothes again when they arrive at work, and have to change before they leave. PT-bound commuters (usually) don't.
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  • Some buses are faster than others, some do roll around the houses and while frequent are terribly slow, while a few have more direct routes.

    can in some cases be worth waiting for the fast bus as you where.
  • I should have said in London. Door-to-door means your own front door, not when the bus door closes. Estate agents use journey times from when the bus or train door closes so they're promoting the new flats at Stratford as being "Ten minutes from Canary Wharf". Yes, on the Jubilee, but only if you start timing when the train door closes.


    I can't imagine any bus journey in London being faster than cycling even if the bus stop's outside your front door.