best all round tyre

lawman76

looking to for a new set of tyres.something for all year round.read the review in mtb uk this month and was going to go for one of the top three specialized purgery control,rubber queen (folding £30), hans damph (folding £30) as my budget is around £30 per tyre.any advice would be helpfully. cheers

cooldad

All round tyres are definitely the best - those square ones are a bugger.
Ask ten different people and you'll get ten different answers. I use Maxxis Ignitor Exception series. Some one I know who really knows his sh1t swears by these, and bargain price.
http://www.allterraincycles.co.uk/.Bont ... 127081.htm
If you get Continental make sure they are Black Chili compound all the rest are rubbish.

DodgeT

Out of your original 3, I can vouch for the purgatory, very good in all conditions.

bennett_346

DodgeT wrote:

Out of your original 3, I can vouch for the purgatory, very good in all conditions.

+1

benpinnick

All those tyres are good, but none as good value as the Xr4. Which I also think is the strongest option this time of year.

grenw

Depends what you ride. Down south where I ride it drains well and the all natural forest trails that I ride hold up really well.

For me those Hans Dampfs would be too much in all but the worst conditions. I use Nobby Nics (a toned down, lighter version of the HD) all through winter and swap to Ralphs sometimes during the summer.

oodboo

I've got some single ply minions that I've been happy with. Got front and rear but a lot of people run two front tyres.

lawman76

Ride at inners,gt or newcastleton.usually on trails.bikes a rockhopper if that helps.was swinging to the Schwalbe don't no if there is big difference between £30 or £50 options.

EH_Rob

At Glentress (and most other places) I normally ride with Maxxis Ardents and High Rollers 60A compound, all year round. When riding at Inners at this time of year I might switch to Minions, High Rollers or Ardents in Super Tacky compound.

I don't really ever run anything else. There's plenty of other (and probably better) options for the wintery gloop, but I don't ever ride in purely muddy conditions and don't have pockets deep enough to justify changing tyres any more than this.

I like Maxxis tyres in general as I find they last ok, I like the way the sizes come up, they are durable and give solid, predictable grip for most of the riding I do. In the past I've tried Schwalbes (Nobby Nic and Racing Ralph - good for XC) and various Contis (anything in Black Chili compound is good, anything else isn't).

Thewaylander

GrenW wrote:

Depends what you ride. Down south where I ride it drains well and the all natural forest trails that I ride hold up really well.

For me those Hans Dampfs would be too much in all but the worst conditions. I use Nobby Nics (a toned down, lighter version of the HD) all through winter and swap to Ralphs sometimes during the summer.

See this is where people differ, i wouldn't even use a nobby in summer as they have 0 grip on roots rocks in anything approaching a sneeze of water lol.

concorde

Use a Minion up front for all of this year, super tacky, it's a slog but it never ever lets go! Just bought an ardent looks similar in tread but reading a lot that they're not very good gripping unless you're pretty much horizontal. Tried a rocket ron the other day, not enough up front but plenty on the rear. Will get a high roller for the front for the summer, stick with the minion for the winter and run rocket ron or conti mountain king on the back all year round.

MDobs

lawman76 wrote:

Ride at inners,gt or newcastleton.usually on trails.bikes a rockhopper if that helps.was swinging to the Schwalbe don't no if there is big difference between £30 or £50 options.

about twenty pounds.

lawman

http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k371/a ... r-set.html

This deal is the best around by far, will be slapping some on my hardtail over winter

MDobs

lawman wrote:

http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k371/a69863/hans-dampf-evo-snake-skin-pacestar-trailstar-set.html

This deal is the best around by far, will be slapping some on my hardtail over winter

I've got those waiting patiently to go on my bike at some point, cracking deal considering that one RRPs at 49.99 gbp and you're getting a pair for about that.

Bike-discount are generally the best place price wise for tyres, they do relatively cheap contis (esp black chilli Baron and Rubber Queens) as well as Maxxis and Schwable cheaper than most. I've got a wish list of about 15 tyres on there. i think i have a little bit of a rubber fetish :shock:

ilovedirt

I'm gonna go for some hans dampfs (the link lawman posted). They get good reviews and they make sense for my riding. They might be a bit draggy on trail centre stuff, but i ride a lot of off piste more natural/local trails which can get pretty muddy and are generally pretty loose, rooty and rocky.

lawman

MDobs wrote:

lawman wrote:

http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k371/a69863/hans-dampf-evo-snake-skin-pacestar-trailstar-set.html

This deal is the best around by far, will be slapping some on my hardtail over winter

I've got those waiting patiently to go on my bike at some point, cracking deal considering that one RRPs at 49.99 gbp and you're getting a pair for about that.

Bike-discount are generally the best place price wise for tyres, they do relatively cheap contis (esp black chilli Baron and Rubber Queens) as well as Maxxis and Schwable cheaper than most. I've got a wish list of about 15 tyres on there. i think i have a little bit of a rubber fetish :shock:

My uni club is sponsored by conti and even after the huge discount we get bike discounts contis are cheaper!!!

spr wheelie

just ordered a pair of bonty xr4s, thanks for the link cooldad was wanting them and not seen a price that good.

70\ʹspenguin

cooldad wrote:

All round tyres are definitely the best - those square ones are a bugger.
Ask ten different people and you'll get ten different answers. I use Maxxis Ignitor Exception series. Some one I know who really knows his sh1t swears by these, and bargain price.
http://www.allterraincycles.co.uk/.Bont ... 127081.htm
If you get Continental make sure they are Black Chili compound all the rest are rubbish.

Any idea if these are the TLR versions?

BlueAdvocate

ilovedirt wrote:

I'm gonna go for some hans dampfs (the link lawman posted). They get good reviews and they make sense for my riding. They might be a bit draggy on trail centre stuff, but i ride a lot of off piste more natural/local trails which can get pretty muddy and are generally pretty loose, rooty and rocky.

I've been running advantages most of the year but got some HDs from bike discount .. a bargain with the pace/trail combo. Tried them out on Lee Quarry and was very impressed. Since them I've used them in muddy conditions and been happy as you can be. I have some swampthings .... jesus they suck you into the centre of the earth ... really can't get on with them.

neilrosser

spr wheelie wrote:

just ordered a pair of bonty xr4s, thanks for the link cooldad was wanting them and not seen a price that good.

Are they the Team Issue ones? If so are you going to run 2.35 f & r ? Shame they don't do 2.20 in TI.

benpinnick

I've got one on the back (2.2). V good.

lawman76

cheers for the link lawman.had to go with the hans dampfs at that price.

lawman wrote:

http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k371/a69863/hans-dampf-evo-snake-skin-pacestar-trailstar-set.html

This deal is the best around by far, will be slapping some on my hardtail over winter

spr wheelie

neilrosser wrote:

spr wheelie wrote:

just ordered a pair of bonty xr4s, thanks for the link cooldad was wanting them and not seen a price that good.

Are they the Team Issue ones? If so are you going to run 2.35 f & r ? Shame they don't do 2.20 in TI.

aye. think they are the team issue. going to try f and rear. if it feels like it could be easier then ill get som sort of 2.2 for the rear and ive got a spare front waiting to go

benpinnick

The 2.35 are great front and rear if your frame can take it. My blur was ok, but my zesty couldn't fit the 2.35 on the back, so I had to slim down to the 2.2

cubicboy

I went from Panaracer Fire XC Pro to Continental Mountain King II ProTection 2.2 + inner tubes (bought for a ripsnorting £60 from www.bike-discount.de). I had no confidence in the Panaracers: they were skittish; slippy, hard and lost grip without warning. The MKs two rides in have been fantastic. I find them far better than the Nobby Nics that I have on my FS. Perhaps I'm comparing chalk (hard type) with cheese (soft tyre), but I'll go MT the next time I need to buy tyres.

http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k371/a ... ml?mfid=77

thelonegroover

I'm not sure trying to find the best all round tyre is actually the best policy. I'd invest in a summer set for warm dry use and a winter set for cold wet use. Baring in mind they’ll all ware out eventually, you might as well fit something more suitable.

cooldad

Thelonegroover wrote:

I'm not sure trying to find the best all round tyre is actually the best policy. I'd invest in a summer set for warm dry use and a winter set for cold wet use. Baring in mind they’ll all ware out eventually, you might as well fit something more suitable.

Where the hell do you live that's warm and dry in summer? Barbados?

The Rookie

The UK in March can be pretty hot......then 11 months of wet until next March.

thelonegroover

Wishfull thinking on my part.

thelonegroover

cooldad wrote:

Thelonegroover wrote:

I'm not sure trying to find the best all round tyre is actually the best policy. I'd invest in a summer set for warm dry use and a winter set for cold wet use. Baring in mind they’ll all ware out eventually, you might as well fit something more suitable.

Where the hell do you live that's warm and dry in summer? Barbados?

Clue is in the location.

cooldad

Yeah I just figured you must have moved and forgotten to update it.
Or that you are clinically insane