Kurt kinetic rock and roll advice wanted

gwillis

My turbo trainer is on its last legs and I'm considering the above with the possibility of adding the computer . Has anybody got any experience with these. Any views appreciated

Herbsman

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shazzz

I've got one and love it. Together with a decent fan I can train at the same levels as on the road, something I couldn't do with my old, albeit crappy, turbo. I have the extra flywheel also.

I think they over market the movement of the turbo. It doesn't rock from side to side as if you are hammering out of the saddle on the road. The movement is less extreme, but happens all of the time incl when you're in the saddle. There are some non KK vids on YouTube that are worth watching to get an idea of what to expect. I like the feel of the turbo. Whether it is worth the extra over the pro road machine is debatable (I got mine for less!), but I would say go for it. You won't need to buy another turbo for a long time.

Two things to bear in mind. 1. It is bulky and heavy. Mine is permanently set up in the garage. You need a decent space to put it and leave it. 2. You need to centre the bike properly in the turbo, or it can feel like the bike is leaning to one side.

I have no experience with the KK computer. Have you thought about Trainerroad instead? It's a great combo with the RnR.

gwillis

Thanks looking at the reviews above and dime stuff I've dug up online it's a pretty impressive bit if kit ... Perfect for trainer road too

Cheers

mattshrops

Also worth considering the Road Machine which i believe has the same resistance unit as the rock and roll.
Only cheaper.
Depends how much you wish to rock and roll when sprinting.Elvis has left the pain cave.

gwillis

Cheers my LBS has offered to do me a supa dupa deal on the rock and roll plus I like the idea of a bit more movement .

Love the Elvis quote

springtide9

I picked up a Rock and Roll from Ebay (which has replaced by Trax Satori)

Much prefer the feel of the RnR. It's very smooth to spin up and pretty, quiet. It's also very comfortable, with the "rock" and 'roll" motion smoothing out some of that rigid feeling you get on a turbo. I also think it puts less strain on the frame, but I'm sure that this really isn't a real issue anyway.

I have the "Turntable Riser Ring" but haven't played with that yet. Thought I'd just give the turbo a go with a fixed position riser, to first get used to the motion.

Overall, highly recommended.

gwillis

Thanks Simon I've only heard good things do far . I haven't bought the riser but will do when funds allow until then I'm using a yellow pages and a next directory for a steeper climb .
I'm hoping to use it with trainer road as it seems a good set up etc .

barry_kellett99

I really like mine, the proof is in how much use it gets.
On the power/speed curve for the trainer - I have used it almost always with my powertap on the bike, It is as accurate as you need it to be from what I have seen and measured. Especially for sustained efforts.

wardieboy

I'm really tempted to get one. My current turbo has a problem with the resistance cable (it's really difficult to move and I have to tape it into position once I have wrestled it into position). Also I'd like to get more of an accurate feel from trainerroad as to the power I am (or rather not) hitting.

The guys at trainerroad have stated that my current tacx cycletrack has the same power curve to that of the Satori. I'm not 100% convinced on this as the brake looks completely different. It looks more similar to the Sirius, although the Sirius has a different weight flywheel.

I know that as long as I am using same tyre & clamping pressure and getting consistent readings I have a good benchmark to measure against. I suppose I am in two minds as this would be a bit of a luxury purchase as I already have a turbo. I train indoors 3 times a week for an hour and have no problems with boredom, just wondering how much the rock and roll will spice things up with a more road like feel and better power readings (no powertap here).

As there is an element of bounce and the rock and roll movement, do you peeps find it more comfortable on the a-hole?