Sean Yates Quits
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Richmond Racer wrote:If you think Yatesy has an autobio lined up, then you know nothing about the man and his character. Whatever secrets he has about his own experiences and other peoples', he will take to the grave.
And that's the problem...
No wonder the doping issues in cycling perpetuate when the majoirty have just that sort of attitude. Especially now.0 -
Yeh grass up everyone you know. Thats the way.0
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Richmond Racer wrote:frenchfighter wrote:Look at those legs. Look at the height of those shorts.
L.E.G.E.N.D. Nothing less.
Ex-team mates tell stories of him having to cut his kit to stop it cutting into him cos he worked out so much
Frenchie, can you find any pics of him descending - or even better, vids?
I agree..an absolute legend. The contempt some are showing towards him really shows how limited a criteria they use to make an assessment of great athletes from the past of the sport0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:stevelee101 wrote:Anyone think that, apart from stated 'health problems' (hope it's nothing too serious), he quit as he doesn't agree with the new 'zero-tolerance' policy that seems to be just a press-pleasing attempt at 'transparancy'? I'm guessing an autobiography (if there was no confidentiality clause in his contract) will eventually tell-all!
If you think Yatesy has an autobio lined up, then you know nothing about the man and his character. Whatever secrets he has about his own experiences and other peoples', he will take to the grave.
Well I have it on good authority that he was lining this up after the Sky sucess at the Tour but it was "suspended" after the USADA report publication. The co-author is extremley dissapointed, but it may still appear.0 -
bockers wrote:Richmond Racer wrote:stevelee101 wrote:Anyone think that, apart from stated 'health problems' (hope it's nothing too serious), he quit as he doesn't agree with the new 'zero-tolerance' policy that seems to be just a press-pleasing attempt at 'transparancy'? I'm guessing an autobiography (if there was no confidentiality clause in his contract) will eventually tell-all!
If you think Yatesy has an autobio lined up, then you know nothing about the man and his character. Whatever secrets he has about his own experiences and other peoples', he will take to the grave.
Well I have it on good authority that he was lining this up after the Sky sucess at the Tour but it was "suspended" after the USADA report publication. The co-author is extremley dissapointed, but it may still appear.
hmmm, well that would be a massive surprise. on a personal level I would love to see a book about this life - the closest I've ever seen to one is a chapter on him in Will Fotheringham's Roule Brittainia.0 -
I would suspect that there is no better time for him to do an autobiography. He's currently in the spotlight, without a job and has nothing to lose. He's a man not afraid of hard work but I'm sure that he'll figure (having seen the impact of Hamilton's book) that a tell all book will be the final favour that doping can do for him.0
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Yellow Peril wrote:I would suspect that there is no better time for him to do an autobiography. He's currently in the spotlight, without a job and has nothing to lose. He's a man not afraid of hard work but I'm sure that he'll figure (having seen the impact of Hamilton's book) that a tell all book will be the final favour that doping can do for him.
I really think that he and Armstrong were/are too close for a 'tell all'.Mañana0 -
pb21 wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:I would suspect that there is no better time for him to do an autobiography. He's currently in the spotlight, without a job and has nothing to lose. He's a man not afraid of hard work but I'm sure that he'll figure (having seen the impact of Hamilton's book) that a tell all book will be the final favour that doping can do for him.
I really think that he and Armstrong were/are too close for a 'tell all'.
Yep, he strikes me as too loyal to implicate his mates.0 -
And that's the problem...
No wonder the doping issues in cycling perpetuate when the majoirty have just that sort of attitude. Especially now.
Have to agree - thats why the sport is in a right rudy mess.
I'm not a particularly big fan of either Flandis or Tamilton, but w/o them none of this would have been exposed.
We'll only know if it's been worth the bother maybe 5 or 10 years down the line. Personally with all the dodgy team managers still in the sport I don't think much has (or will change). You only have to look at Contador/Valv/Roddy boy in the Vuelta to realise that.0 -
Would we consider it ironic that in 1998 Sean rode for a GB based TT team called... Team Clean.0
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esafosfina wrote:Would we consider it ironic that in 1998 Sean rode for a GB based TT team called... Team Clean.
He was also DS for the Linda McCartney team but I know for a fact that he's not vegetarian0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:esafosfina wrote:Would we consider it ironic that in 1998 Sean rode for a GB based TT team called... Team Clean.
He was also DS for the Linda McCartney team but I know for a fact that he's not vegetarian
just as a side-note. Linda's Sausages are tasty as f*ck. And i'm a meat eater.0 -
esafosfina wrote:Would we consider it ironic that in 1998 Sean rode for a GB based TT team called... Team Clean.
Esafosfina
He was racing TDF when you and I were 15. A little respect is due I feel. He gained nothing much from his career esa.
unless cutting hedges and heart problems count 0 -
Dave_1 wrote:esafosfina wrote:Would we consider it ironic that in 1998 Sean rode for a GB based TT team called... Team Clean.
Esafosfina
He was racing TDF when you and I were 15. A little respect is due I feel. He gained nothing much from his career esa. unless cutting hedges and heart problems count
Fair comment. Yates isn't sitting in a f^&k-off huge house overlooking the golf course in Girona with a pad back in the US a la CVV, nor sitting on a hefty investment portfolio and a clothing business a la Hincapie. When you have to become a jobbing gardener to pay child maintenance, it kind of says everything about the great disparity in terms of what people gained from their respective careers and the choices they made.0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:Dave_1 wrote:esafosfina wrote:Would we consider it ironic that in 1998 Sean rode for a GB based TT team called... Team Clean.
Esafosfina
He was racing TDF when you and I were 15. A little respect is due I feel. He gained nothing much from his career esa. unless cutting hedges and heart problems count
Fair comment. Yates isn't sitting in a f^&k-off huge house overlooking the golf course in Girona with a pad back in the US a la CVV, nor sitting on a hefty investment portfolio and a clothing business a la Hincapie. When you have to become a jobbing gardener to pay child maintenance, it kind of says everything about the great disparity in terms of what people gained from their respective careers and the choices they made.
Rich, am sure you, like me, will remember Yatesy had a great nickname during the late 80s to mid 90s. They called him the animal cause of how hard he led out his team leaders and lined bunches out , to swing off and see them win... to see threads like this on bikeradar
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Dave_1 wrote:Richmond Racer wrote:Dave_1 wrote:esafosfina wrote:Would we consider it ironic that in 1998 Sean rode for a GB based TT team called... Team Clean.
Esafosfina
He was racing TDF when you and I were 15. A little respect is due I feel. He gained nothing much from his career esa. unless cutting hedges and heart problems count
Fair comment. Yates isn't sitting in a f^&k-off huge house overlooking the golf course in Girona with a pad back in the US a la CVV, nor sitting on a hefty investment portfolio and a clothing business a la Hincapie. When you have to become a jobbing gardener to pay child maintenance, it kind of says everything about the great disparity in terms of what people gained from their respective careers and the choices they made.
Rich, am sure you, like me, will remember Yatesy had a great nickname during the late 80s to mid 90s. They called him the animal cause of how hard he led out his team leaders and lined bunches out , to swing off and see them win... to see threads like this on bikeradar
Yeah, I know. The dissing with a huge dollop of new-found sanctimony aint attractive to see.0 -
Dave_1 wrote:to see threads like this on bikeradar
It's not a pretty thread, but I have problems with the "good doper / bad doper" thing. Nice guys also dope, unfortunately.
There's a collective responsibility for what happened to cycling that riders like Yates share a part of. Whether or not they got rich off it, and whether or not they're decent blokes.
Yates may be showing us where steadfast loyalty stops being a virtue and starts looking more like a character flaw
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Dave_1 wrote:esafosfina wrote:Would we consider it ironic that in 1998 Sean rode for a GB based TT team called... Team Clean.
Esafosfina
He was racing TDF when you and I were 15. A little respect is due I feel. He gained nothing much from his career esa. unless cutting hedges and heart problems count
Dave_1 How is my tongue-in-cheek question disrespectful? Hence me asking "Would we..." And for the record, I have respect for Sean, a respect founded jointly upon his 'palmares', and his friendship of which I was lucky enough to share throughout three years of professional racing with him. It won't stop me taking the mickey... lighten up buddy.0 -
esafosfina wrote:Dave_1 wrote:esafosfina wrote:Would we consider it ironic that in 1998 Sean rode for a GB based TT team called... Team Clean.
Esafosfina
He was racing TDF when you and I were 15. A little respect is due I feel. He gained nothing much from his career esa. unless cutting hedges and heart problems count
Dave_1 How is my tongue-in-cheek question disrespectful? Hence me asking "Would we..." And for the record, I have respect for Sean, a respect founded jointly upon his 'palmares', and his friendship of which I was lucky enough to share throughout three years of professional racing with him. It won't stop me taking the mickey... lighten up buddy.
Fair enough Esafosfina. Good to see you on here sir. I'm perhaps over reacting nowadays as no pro or ex pro seems safe from being called a cheat..the current climate being attack first, ask questions later. It was Team "Clean Fresh Start"0 -
Dave_1 wrote:esafosfina wrote:Dave_1 wrote:esafosfina wrote:Would we consider it ironic that in 1998 Sean rode for a GB based TT team called... Team Clean.
Esafosfina
He was racing TDF when you and I were 15. A little respect is due I feel. He gained nothing much from his career esa. unless cutting hedges and heart problems count
Dave_1 How is my tongue-in-cheek question disrespectful? Hence me asking "Would we..." And for the record, I have respect for Sean, a respect founded jointly upon his 'palmares', and his friendship of which I was lucky enough to share throughout three years of professional racing with him. It won't stop me taking the mickey... lighten up buddy.
Fair enough Esafosfina. Good to see you on here sir. I'm perhaps over reacting nowadays as no pro or ex pro seems safe from being called a cheat..the current climate being attack first, ask questions later. It was Team "Clean Fresh Start"
No worries at all Dave_1. I too am getting a 'tad' peeved by the misconception that as soon as one signs a professional contract, one is sure to have doped. There were, and are, riders out there that found/find 'the dark-side' abhorrent. I was one.
Re: Team Clean Fresh Start... a portentous name! It would be a fantastic time to 're-invent' this squad.0 -
From this distance, 'Clean Fresh Start' sounds like a toilet cleaner
100%ME is a bit inpenetrable too0 -
esafosfina wrote:No worries at all Dave_1. I too am getting a 'tad' peeved by the misconception that as soon as one signs a professional contract, one is sure to have doped. There were, and are, riders out there that found/find 'the dark-side' abhorrent. I was one.
Re: Team Clean Fresh Start... a portentous name! It would be a fantastic time to 're-invent' this squad.
New co-sponsor for Garmin isn't it?
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His current position is NFTO DS.
Contador is the Greatest0
