phil liggett

mpd62
mpd62 Posts: 71
edited October 2012 in Pro race
seems a bit quite lately....
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  • dougzz
    dougzz Posts: 1,833
    He hitched up to the Lance bandwagon, and for years it worked. What can he really do or say now. Surely his commentary days are done?
  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    mpd62 wrote:
    seems a bit quite lately....


    a bit quite what...irritating?
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,598
    dougzz wrote:
    He hitched up to the Lance bandwagon, and for years it worked. What can he really do or say now. Surely his commentary days are done?

    Hopefully, not that I need an alternative to the excellent Dave Harmon.
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  • liquor box
    liquor box Posts: 184
    I think he has been losing it for a little while. I dont know if age is catching up to him but he seemed to be making a lot of errors identifying cyclists during the TDF and he did not seem to be as on the ball as in previous seasons.

    I hope he is alright and makes a return.

    On the other hand as much as I have liked listening to his commentry in the past, I have realised how much crap he talks about compared to the Eurosport commentry teams. This is the first season I have had the opportunity to watch Eurosport in Australia and I have been very impressed, the commentry is entertaining and knowledgable and I like that they will actually talk about what gear is being used, the different bikes and approaches by different teams as opposed to Liggett explaining when a chateau was built. Eurosports biggest downfall is the local TV networks inability to provide decent quality pictures and graphics. It is entertaining though to hear them bag the local content at time though
  • rdt
    rdt Posts: 869
    If you bring Phil Liggett and Hugh Porter close enough together under just the right conditions (eg. on the same continent), a chain reaction of cliches can flow that's entirely self-sustaining.

    I think a dangerous criticality event like that may have occurred this summer, although hopefully not to be repeated.
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    it saddens me as I liked Phil's commentary in the 1980s and found him a friendly chap to meet but sadly he got too close to Lance and so became part of the problem. He should hang up the mic. Paul too. Graham Watson too.
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  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Dave_1 wrote:
    it saddens me as I liked Phil's commentary in the 1980s and found him a friendly chap to meet but sadly he got too close to Lance and so became part of the problem. He should hang up the mic. Paul too. Graham Watson too.

    Sorry Dave I'm not ready to go it alone for a wholeTdF without cliches
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  • the_cyclist_of_catan
    the_cyclist_of_catan Posts: 354
    I fully expect my cycling commentators to do a sterling job of work and dig deep into their suitcase of cliches. Hopefully Phil can pass on the well-thumbed script to whomever takes over.
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  • Mikey23
    Mikey23 Posts: 5,306
    we must wait for the smoke to be raised over the vatican as the worthy successor is appointed ...
  • Art Vandelay
    Art Vandelay Posts: 1,982
    If you grew up watching Channel 4s TdF coverage it's hard not to feel a bit sorry for Phil. But he pinned his colours to the Armstrong mast and I reckon he'll now have to go down with that sinking ship. Remember this:
    “He told me in a private situation, when I wasn’t working as a journalist. I was sat in the bedroom some years ago, and I asked him point blank, ‘look Lance, the way I talked you up on television, I would have to back off and resign if you one day went positive’. And he looked at me and he said ‘man I’ve seen death in the face and I don’t take drugs.’ And that’s all he said. I have no reason to disbelieve him.”
  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    See - I dunno about what else he knew, but if Lance lied in his face like that - well, what you gonna do?
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    In defence of Liggett:

    1. He's been involved in cycling for many many years and has done much for it over the years.
    2. He's not stupid. He knew what was happening, but he loves the sport and didn't want to abandon it. Neither did we. He kept commentating, just as we kept watching.
    3. He worked in Sports TV. That's not investigative journalism. It's entertainment. One time there was a great piece my Ned Boulting about just that in one of the (now defunct?) real peloton podcasts explaining what his job was and some of the frustrations. He said it is partly a 'sales job'.

    Having said all that, Phil is 70 next year and he should retire. And when he does he should be remembered for all the good he did for the sport and not his salesmanship for USTV.
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  • itisaboutthebike
    itisaboutthebike Posts: 1,120
    Having said all that, Phil is 70 next year and he should retire. And when he does he should be remembered for all the good he did for the sport and not his salesmanship for USTV.

    B*llocks......................you can make it entertaining and informative w/o having your head stuck up someone's a*se..............

    My dad was 84 and he made more sense than some of the drivel Leggup spouted..........
  • Bernie S
    Bernie S Posts: 118
    He surely must have had some inkling of what the USADA documentaition would say so why on earth did he make that stupid South African radio video
  • itisaboutthebike
    itisaboutthebike Posts: 1,120
    He surely must have had some inkling of what the USADA documentaition would say so why on earth did he make that stupid South African radio video

    Because he's go his head up Artmstrongs a*se...................................and he's a tw*t. Simple
  • mattgardiner
    mattgardiner Posts: 23
    Leave poor Mr Liggett alone, he's got the perfect defence.

    It's been clear to anyone who's listened to him for the past couple of years that he's completely lost touch with reality. Why should his grasp on the circumstantial Armstrong evidence be any different from his grasp on who's who in the peloton?
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    David Duffield for the NEW itv4 commentators chair .....Yay or Nay ? 8)
  • itisaboutthebike
    itisaboutthebike Posts: 1,120
    David Duffield for the NEW itv4 commentators chair .....Yay or Nay ?

    No Me !
  • itisaboutthebike
    itisaboutthebike Posts: 1,120
    circumstantial Armstrong evidence

    ???? Circumstantial ?
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/despite ... -supporter

    Twisted old fart.
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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    I can’t walk away because of contracts I’ve signed until 2016. I do find it depressing at times.

    2016? That is depressing.
  • celestecharlie
    celestecharlie Posts: 51
    Hmmm, reading that it does rather seem the mind of Phil Liggett is a whole world of confusion.
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    Reading that article I feel somewhat sorry for him. He just seems a bit confused, more or less every statement seems to support a different side.
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  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    but we were only fools in retrospect"

    That must win some sort of award, surely?
  • le_patron
    le_patron Posts: 494
    Oh my God. Where do you start with that article ?!?

    An eminent scientist sent him an email via a friend, via SMS (??), and he can't remember his name (but he's very eminent) who said that Lance should be dead if had taken all that’s stuff…
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    le patron wrote:
    Oh my God. Where do you start with that article ?!?

    An eminent scientist sent him an email via a friend, via SMS (??), and he can't remember his name (but he's very eminent) who said that Lance should be dead if had taken all that’s stuff…

    Yet Tyler, who told the truth in his book about the huge amount of sh.t he took, is miraculously still with us.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    le patron wrote:
    Oh my God. Where do you start with that article ?!?

    An eminent scientist sent him an email via a friend, via SMS (??), and he can't remember his name (but he's very eminent) who said that Lance should be dead if had taken all that’s stuff…


    Could this friend be the same guy who supposedly told him 2 years ago that he'd been approached by agents offering financial incentives to say evil, wrong things about Armstrong...? Everything's possible in Phil World.
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    le patron wrote:
    Oh my God. Where do you start with that article ?!?

    An eminent scientist sent him an email via a friend, via SMS (??), and he can't remember his name (but he's very eminent) who said that Lance should be dead if had taken all that’s stuff…

    :lol: I loved that quote - he says the USADA evidence is a farce but bases his own theory on a Scientist he doesn't know sending somebody else a text which they then forwarded on to him. he's a good scientist though. :lol:
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  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    I'd give it another week before he starts blaming the Freemasons / Illuminati / Lizard People.
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • niedermeyer
    niedermeyer Posts: 1,075
    mattgardiner wrote:
    Leave poor Mr Liggett alone, he's got the perfect defence.

    It's been clear to anyone who's listened to him for the past couple of years that he's completely lost touch with reality. Why should his grasp on the circumstantial Armstrong evidence be any different from his grasp on who's who in the peloton?
    He's been an @rselicking @rsewipe for the last 10 years at least. A major part of the problem and probably in a unique position to do something about it. To$$er of the highest order.
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