Orange 5 Pro (New Colour, Page 3)

peter_booker2003

Fancied a change from the Trance and a family member was selling a 5 so I thought why not!

Loving the way it rides. Seems like the harder and faster i go the better it gets.

Here's a picture. Will get some better ones soon enough.

Let me know what what you think.......

bennett_346

Awkward...

peter_booker2003

Whats it with people and "five's". There is a reason why they were trail bike of the year numerous times.

buzz1

peter_booker2003 wrote:

Whats it with people and "five's". There is a reason why they were trail bike of the year numerous times.

jealousy maybe?
I love it, well done on aquiring a top bike enjoy it, whatever people say!

peter_booker2003

maybe.

Thanks for the kind words buzz1.

leaflite

peter_booker2003 wrote:

Whats it with people and "five's". There is a reason why they were trail bike of the year numerous times.

A mysterious paycheck that appeared in the magazine in question's bank account one morning?

Only joking, I think it looks quite decent in that colour, and they ride well.
I think most of the criticism is centred around the new frame only rrp and what you get for that, but if you got a good deal on it used fair play.

JayKay3000

White shocks would look boss. Looks good though. Can probably take a lot of abuse as well.

peter_booker2003

jaykay3000. Yep, i know what you mean. Am on the lookout for some talas 36's once i can afford them.

leaflite. Paid £1200 for it, so quite a good deal i think.

tarbot18

lovely looking bike nice to see an orange in a decent colour combo

lawman

peter_booker2003 wrote:

leaflite. Paid £1200 for it, so quite a good deal i think.

£1200 ... Frame only?! :shock: That family member would certainly be off my christmas card list if they ripped you off that much!!

The Rookie

5's are clearly a Marmite bike, they are crude (both in terms of engineering and they way they are built) but that doesn't seem to adversely impact how they ride (although they are heavy which always has some impact)....whether you like it is down to you, I quite like the 'agricultural' look, but have never ridden one, and ultimately it's how it rides that counts, so I'm satying on the fence.

Marmite in a Spag Bol is great though........

Where does PB say frame (let alone frame only?)

lawman

The Beginner wrote:

5's are clearly a Marmite bike, they are crude (both in terms of engineering and they way they are built) but that doesn't seem to adversely impact how they ride (although they are heavy which always has some impact)....whether you like it is down to you, I quite like the 'agricultural' look, but have never ridden one, and ultimately it's how it rides that counts, so I'm satying on the fence.

Marmite in a Spag Bol is great though........

Where does PB say frame (let alone frame only?)

The kit looks like it came straight off his old trance, have sold some bits and pieces to peter in the past, so I just noticed that it looks like most of the kit has been transferred from old to this frame, would seem strange to buy a whole bike to rip the kit off it and put his on

peter_booker2003

was brought as a whole bike, but the cranks had a lot of heel rub, so i put my SLX ones on. And the brakes are off my trance. Just experimenting with which bits i want on the Orange at the moment. Will probably put the lighter wheels on as they seem very well built.

Lawman...i see what you mean, But will hopefully be able to make my money back from the trance and bits if im clever with which parts go on which bike

tarbot18

I dont get all the references to the orange 5 and weight , a mate has a 5 pro and it weighs 28lbs in who s world is that heavy for a full suss bike ?
A lot of bikes on here commencal s transition bandit etc weigh in the low 30 s yet thats ok for some reason , id rather get a high spec made in england 5 than something thats been churned in a taiwan factory like 95% of the bikes on here that are just assembled by the company !
Unfortunately i am a poor public servant and dont drive an audi ;-) so i have a made in taiwan framed bike till the lottery win comes in.

paramart

pete i bought an old 2008 frame same as that then put on what i wanted, got a bike i really enjoy, weight wise alot of competiters out there very similer, i agree that when bought new you don,t get much for your money, nice clean looking bike enjoy it and dont listen to the 5 haters, simple and agricultural might have been invented by russians

peter_booker2003

paramart. Cheers for the kind words. Will get some better photos up tomorrow once ive sorted out the rear brake hose routing. Looking forward to trying to route it through the frame

The Rookie

tarbot18 wrote:

I dont get all the references to the orange 5 and weight , a mate has a 5 pro and it weighs 28lbs in who s world is that heavy for a full suss bike ?

So he built a light one, bully for him, the frame is heavy, and heavier than many of the competitions frames, add the same finishing kit and the 5 ends up heavier - fact!

tarbot18 wrote:

id rather get a high spec made in england 5 than something thats been churned in a taiwan factory like 95% of the bikes on here that are just assembled by the company !

Not that again, the only bit on most 5's made in the UK is the frame, all the rest come from Taiwan and Malaysia just like the bits on most other bikes, and then assemebled by Orange.

If your going to praise a bike then come up with some praise for it rathr than some esoteric reasons.

tarbot18

The Beginner wrote:

tarbot18 wrote:

I dont get all the references to the orange 5 and weight , a mate has a 5 pro and it weighs 28lbs in who s world is that heavy for a full suss bike ?

So he built a light one, bully for him, the frame is heavy, and heavier than many of the competitions frames, add the same finishing kit and the 5 ends up heavier - fact!

tarbot18 wrote:

id rather get a high spec made in england 5 than something thats been churned in a taiwan factory like 95% of the bikes on here that are just assembled by the company !

Not that again, the only bit on most 5's made in the UK is the frame, all the rest come from Taiwan and Malaysia just like the bits on most other bikes, and then assemebled by Orange.

If your going to praise a bike then come up with some praise for it rathr than some esoteric reasons.

hmm not sure about your english here but i am praising it get over it , it has got a frame made in england thats a pretty major part of most bikes so ye that again ............

The Rookie

The frame is a small part of the cost of a bike (ignore what it retails for, that's not what it costs to make).

A little research puts a 5 frame less shock at about 1lb heavier (6.8 versus a quick check of similar frames) than many of its competition, the rather silly fabricated down tube is a major factor in that.

EH_Rob

tarbot18 wrote:

I dont get all the references to the orange 5 and weight , a mate has a 5 pro and it weighs 28lbs in who s world is that heavy for a full suss bike ?
A lot of bikes on here commencal s transition bandit etc weigh in the low 30 s yet thats ok for some reason , id rather get a high spec made in england 5 than something thats been churned in a taiwan factory like 95% of the bikes on here that are just assembled by the company !
Unfortunately i am a poor public servant and dont drive an audi ;-) so i have a made in taiwan framed bike till the lottery win comes in.

True. Having said that you can build a Santa Cruz Nomad that weighs in at 29lbs, probably for similar money, and it'd be a far more capable bike. That's just one example.

I don't mind them too much though, looks ok to me, and you didn't pay the silly price that people who buy them brand new do. Enjoy it.

lawman

The main fact that counts against Orange is the stuff you get for the money. Its a crudely made frame, with a design that changes little and they charge extra for pretty much everything. Just as an example you can get an Ibis Mojo special blend for around the same as a basic 5, which has a much better frame and better components. The 5 may well be a good bike, personally I think its heavy and simple, but if you like it then I guess you're happy to pay a premium for the UK tag.

tarbot18

hmmm see your point but at the end of the day how many of us buy something with our head and not our heart , if we didnt there d be no audi a3 s or bmw 3 series around , a current mondeo is a better car that the current 3 series regarding spec value for money and the way they drive but what do people drive .......

A lot of people aspire to things like 5 s for no sensible reason other than they have that want it factor, no one ever said they'd buy a specialized camber s with their lottery win ! you buy them with your head.

ill probably never ever own a bike costing over 2 grand anyway couldnt afford a divorce but just dont get the bitchiness about what bikes people ride, seriously who cares get out there and ride whatever you have.

The Rookie

I have no bitchiness towards the 5, (we even allow one to come on our club rides ;-)), they do look crude (and one could argue that for some people it is part of the appeal), the fact is that many people think they ride well, and at the end of the day that is the ONLY thing that matters surely, so try one, if you don't like it, don't buy it, if you don't like the way it rides, at least criticize in a constructive manner.

Dirtydog11

I dont get all the references to the orange 5 and weight ,

I do, they don't know what they're talking about.

There are certainly lighter bikes in the 140mm -160mm category and there are certainly heavier bikes in the 140mm -160mm category , to single out the five as heavy shows a complete lack of knowledge.


@peter_booker2003

Enjoy !

peter_booker2003

Have got the 5 to where i want it now.

Rides Great, don't look to bad either in my opinion.

Upgrades Include:

Funn 785mm Bars
Atherton Pro Grips
Saint M810 Brakes
Maxxis Minion front and Ardent Rear
SLX Crankset with Hope Bash Guard
DMR V12 Pedals.

Heres a few pictures:

peter_booker2003

cheers dirtydog.

Yours look well "WOW" it sure is Green Looks awesome. If it rides anything like mine then im sure you love it

The Rookie

Dirtydog11 wrote:

There are certainly lighter bikes in the 140mm -160mm category and there are certainly heavier bikes in the 140mm -160mm category , to single out the five as heavy shows a complete lack of knowledge.

Enjoy !

The 5 is at the heavy end of the scale for it's travel, that is fact, therefore it can accurately and factually said to be heavy, sure it's only a pound over average, but that's about 15%!

Your second sentiment I can agree with 100%

lawman

The 5 is at the heavy end of the scale for a 140mm bike, a whyte 146s for example is well over a pound lighter. There is definitely a market for the 5, and there is definitely a group that can't stand them, and these days you can't really use exclusivity as a reason to buy a 5! Imo there are better 140mm bikes around, but there are certainly worse.

buzz1

My motto is, "if I like a bike on here I'll comment, if I don't then I wont", you wouldn't go up to somebody in the street and say, "I hate what you're wearing, you look awful, go home and change so you look like everyone else!", would you?

bennett_346

buzz1 wrote:

you wouldn't go up to somebody in the street and say, "I hate what you're wearing, you look awful, go home and change so you look like everyone else!", would you?

People put their bikes on Your Mountain Bikes to recieve feedback from other users. Whats the point in only recieving positive comments, it kind of defeats the point in general of feedback.

Unless you're a woman you should be prepared to hear criticism!

Also, if someone looked awful i would tell them.

appy

Yes but there is a big difference in negative comments and pure bitchiness.

Why just write the word "awkward"? Thats not going to get any response other than negative. Why not just say its not your cup of tea?