Prestige bike makes

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  • dubcat
    dubcat Posts: 754
    I would include bianchi due to their pedigree and history. For example they were the first company to use equally sized front and rear wheels...
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  • No one has mentioned De Rosa!
    To me prestige as in cars implies pedigree and history, so that means anything that has traditionally been built by craftsmen on a reasonably small scale, and has had an impact on the evolution of the sport in this case cycling. I suppose with the advent of globalization this has all been lost somewhat.

    To be frank, if it's not European it cannot be prestige!
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    But de Rosas are made in Taiwan ;)
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  • dubcat
    dubcat Posts: 754
    NapoleonD wrote:
    But de Rosas are made in Taiwan ;)

    Haha so are Bianchi's come to think of it.. :)
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  • Like I said globalization has skewed the picture somewhat, but the history is still there. And even if the R838 frame is exactly the same as the Ribble Stealth I would still prefer the one with painted in Italy!!
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Like I said globalization has skewed the picture somewhat, but the history is still there. And even if the R838 frame is exactly the same as the Ribble Stealth I would still prefer the one with painted in Italy!!

    I think a company loses its history at the point that it outsources all of it's production to generic suppliers. It's one thing to move a factory somewhere else but if you don't even own a factory anymore then really what value are you adding? Design is certainly something but for me on its own it isn't enough. The DeRibblosa is a case in point - you may prefer the De Rosa but would you be prepared to pay the considerable mark up over the Ribble version? And if not, how much extra would you be prepared to pay; that's the value of the history to you. For me, it wouldn't be much.
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  • giant_man
    giant_man Posts: 6,878
    NapoleonD wrote:
    But de Rosas are made in Taiwan ;)
    .. and are vastly overrated imo, the last Italian marque I would consider ....
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,473
    I reckon prestige (P) in a road bike brand goes something like:

    P = (4a + 2h + r) * c

    Where a is amount of money per annum spent on advertising, h is the historical pedigree of the brand, r is popular reputation based on user experiences and c is a coefficient representing the bike building prestige of the country where the brand is based (not necessarily where manufacturing takes place). So c would be about 1 for the U.S., 2 or 3 for Italy, 0.5 for Taiwan, etc.
  • neeb wrote:
    I reckon prestige (P) in a road bike brand goes something like:

    P = (4a + 2h + r) * c

    Where a is amount of money per annum spent on advertising, h is the historical pedigree of the brand, r is popular reputation based on user experiences and c is a coefficient representing the bike building prestige of the country where the brand is based (not necessarily where manufacturing takes place). So c would be about 1 for the U.S., 2 or 3 for Italy, 0.5 for Taiwan, etc.


    Nice!
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