UCI utter disgrace - not fit to govern

tremayne
tremayne Posts: 378
edited September 2012 in Pro race
I'm sorry - but right now if there was one person/people/organisation that I feel has been most responsible for letting down the world of pro-cycling, its the UCI. Not Lance, not Tyler, not Bjarne.

I'll be honest in stating that when I first came to this board and saw then a lot of 'fat pat' and other 'anti Uci' comments, I didn't take much notice. I had no idea how genuinely relevant they were/are to the sport. I guess I saw them as simply sitting in some office, sanctioning racing, handing out medals etc.

I pretty much took the 'fat pat' stuff as people wanting to have a go at the governing body, simply because they are the governing body.

If nothing else, the whole LA thing has absolute crystalised my understanding and opinion of the UCI. I am certain that at the top they are a rotten and corrupt organisation. How far down this stretches - who can tell. I only hope there are some honest and decent individuals there.

I'd very much like to devote a thread to the UCI and their stinking cesspit. Not another LA thread - just UCI.

Because they are worth it.

Is LA their most audacious example of coruption to date? The list is long. I'd really appreciate anyone taking the time to knock up some facts on these jokers.
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  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,436
    tremayne wrote:
    Is LA their most audacious example of coruption to date?

    Introduction of the Keirin to the Olympics has to be up there - http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/ju ... 08.cycling
  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    r0bh wrote:
    tremayne wrote:
    Is LA their most audacious example of coruption to date?

    Introduction of the Keirin to the Olympics has to be up there - http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/ju ... 08.cycling
    Great event though and I'm glad it is the track program. This does not forgive the corrupt process that led to it being included of course.
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  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    tremayne wrote:
    I'm sorry - but right now if there was one person/people/organisation that I feel has been most responsible for letting down the world of pro-cycling, its the UCI. Not Lance, not Tyler, not Bjarne.
    UCI is a collection of individuals. It would seem it may be a collection of people like Armstrong......
    You only need two tools: WD40 and Duck Tape.
    If it doesn't move and should, use the WD40.
    If it shouldn't move and does, use the tape.
  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    Just like any big governing body, FIA, Fifa etc all a bit dodgy!
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Working at a sports governing body of a popular sport.

    It's the job I want.

    Act like a mole, leaking juicy gossip whilst making out you're some kinda martyr whilst getting bungs on the side and free access to all the big events.
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  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    Not bad work if you can get it ;-)
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    The UCI don't think and act with one mind. There's different people doing different things. They're not all corrupt. For every Hein Verbruggen taking kick backs, there's an Anne Gripper setting up the biological passport.

    I'm not even sure McQuaid is necessarily that dodgy, but rather a man left shovelling Verbruggen's sh1t without any PR nous.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,552
    Don't forget all the 5 star hotels, free jollies wherever you want, nice gifts made to you, etc. etc.
    Sadly most world governing bodies appear badly run and heavily corrupt although no doubt have many good people working there just below the top level.
  • dylanfernley
    dylanfernley Posts: 409
    UCI -- needs an independant investigation, and if all the apples in the barrel are rotten throw them away, but keep the barrel for good stock, there will be a need for more transparency/accountability-- but the outlook could ultimately be very good with pro cycling the first to come to terms with doping/corruption ---- the rest of the world of 'sport' would be wise to take note, there are many many skeletons in many cupboards
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    How about I volunteer to join the UCI and clean it up.

    For a healthy salary to afford to live in Switzerland obviously.
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Rick, with the tax savings and a commitment to cleaning up the sport you love, I dont think a hefty salary should be a deal-breaker for you. Greed is what's got cycling into this mess.

    Honestly...
  • le_patron
    le_patron Posts: 494
    RichN95 wrote:
    The UCI don't think and act with one mind. There's different people doing different things. They're not all corrupt. For every Hein Verbruggen taking kick backs, there's an Anne Gripper setting up the biological passport.

    I'm not even sure McQuaid is necessarily that dodgy, but rather a man left shovelling Verbruggen's sh1t without any PR nous.

    Ha ha - very true.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Working at a sports governing body of a popular sport.

    It's the job I want.

    Act like a mole, leaking juicy gossip whilst making out you're some kinda martyr whilst getting bungs on the side and free access to all the big events.

    It's not as glamorous as you'd think. And the pay is poor.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Working at a sports governing body of a popular sport.

    It's the job I want.

    Act like a mole, leaking juicy gossip whilst making out you're some kinda martyr whilst getting bungs on the side and free access to all the big events.

    It's not as glamorous as you'd think. And the pay is poor.

    That's not what panorama told me.

    Damn them! *shakes fist*
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    edited September 2012
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Working at a sports governing body of a popular sport.

    It's the job I want.

    You'll need to start at the bottom. Welsh Hockey are hiring, so you could start there. They seem to have a lot of people getting paid to do sod all. You Dutchness will work in you favour as everyone automatically thinks anyone Dutch is a hockey expert. On the debit side, you don't appear to be a lesbian.

    (You main role will be chasing me for unpaid bills).
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    RichN95 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Working at a sports governing body of a popular sport.

    It's the job I want.

    You'll need to start at the bottom. Welsh Hockey are hiring, so you could start there. They seem to have a lot of people getting paid to do sod all. You Dutchness will work in you favour as everyone automatically thinks anyone Dutch is a hockey expert. On the debit side, you don't appear to be a lesbian.

    I said popular Rich ;).
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  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Working at a sports governing body of a popular sport.

    It's the job I want.

    Act like a mole, leaking juicy gossip whilst making out you're some kinda martyr whilst getting bungs on the side and free access to all the big events.

    It's not as glamorous as you'd think. And the pay is poor.

    That's not what panorama told me.

    Damn them! *shakes fist*

    I think it depends what level you were at. At the top of ours there's some fairly cool trips out etc. But they do work some mental hours too.

    At my grunt level, I have a rewarding job that pays badly compared to most other places.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • tremayne
    tremayne Posts: 378
    What I think we really need is a full scale whistle blowing extravaganza from someone close to Pat and Heime.

    I also think the whole thing needs relocating from that tax dodging, money laundering, immune from most prosecutions, haven for corrupt officialdom country that Switzerland is. Nothing against the Swiss - but their country is full of it.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    tremayne wrote:
    What I think we really need is a full scale whistle blowing extravaganza from someone close to Pat and Heime.

    I also think the whole thing needs relocating from that tax dodging, money laundering, immune from most prosecutions, haven for corrupt officialdom country that Switzerland is. Nothing against the Swiss - but their country is full of it.

    Why would they do that? They get to work and live there tax free...
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    How about I volunteer to join the UCI and clean it up.

    For a healthy salary to afford to live in Switzerland obviously.

    Not a bad idea actualy Rick. The BR moderating Volturi would soon whip it into shape. You'd need IainF and FF on board as well of course.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    How about I volunteer to join the UCI and clean it up.

    For a healthy salary to afford to live in Switzerland obviously.

    Not a bad idea actualy Rick. The BR moderating Volturi would soon whip it into shape. You'd need IainF and FF on board as well of course.

    I'm sure the three of us are uncorruptable. :lol:
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    tremayne wrote:
    What I think we really need is a full scale whistle blowing extravaganza from someone close to Pat and Heime.

    It'll be like Avon and Stringer in The Wire. Hein is "just a gangster, I guess", while Pat wants to move into more legitimate business. They will then turn on each other. One goes to jail, the other gets shot.
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    THe UCI points system would be over-hauled to give a winner of a Spring Classic twice the number of points as a GT winner. Triple if its Boonen
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    RichN95 wrote:
    tremayne wrote:
    What I think we really need is a full scale whistle blowing extravaganza from someone close to Pat and Heime.

    It'll be like Avon and Stringer in The Wire. Hein is "just a gangster, I guess", while Pat wants to move into more legitimate business. They will then turn on each other. One goes to jail, the other gets shot.

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    THe UCI points system would be over-hauled to give a winner of a Spring Classic twice the number of points as a GT winner. Triple if its Boonen

    Fines for clashing socks and black shoes.
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    THe UCI points system would be over-hauled to give a winner of a Spring Classic twice the number of points as a GT winner. Triple if its Boonen

    Fines for clashing socks and black shoes.


    There goes Wiggp's pay rise
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Wiggo, even
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,431
    edited September 2012
    If the USADA have the evidence the UCI covered up Lances positive tests, do they have the jurisdiction(sp?) to charge them?
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  • le_patron
    le_patron Posts: 494
    I think the IOC get involved

    And all sorts of federal agencies hopefully
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Yes, its the IOC. Threat of chucking out cycling from the Lympix would seem to be the ace card

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