Does Using SPD Pedals Encourage Bad Technique?
albus16
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I know, I know - there are a million and one SPD threads and I'm sorry for starting another one but my situation is slightly different.
I'm a newbie but beginning to improve rapidly but my basic techniques still needs work. I managed to get an absolute bargain on some SPD pedals and shoes from CRC and thought I would give them a try as I am finding my feet coming off the pedals quite a lot recently.
My dilemma is this: whilst I am still learning fundamental skills and techniques of MTBing, is it a bad idea to use SPD pedals? I have a lot to learn still so should I hold off and improve a bit more in terms of technical ability first? Are SPD pedals likely to get me into bad habits?
Any input would be appreciated!
Alex
I'm a newbie but beginning to improve rapidly but my basic techniques still needs work. I managed to get an absolute bargain on some SPD pedals and shoes from CRC and thought I would give them a try as I am finding my feet coming off the pedals quite a lot recently.
My dilemma is this: whilst I am still learning fundamental skills and techniques of MTBing, is it a bad idea to use SPD pedals? I have a lot to learn still so should I hold off and improve a bit more in terms of technical ability first? Are SPD pedals likely to get me into bad habits?
Any input would be appreciated!
Alex
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Just use whatever feels right for you and enjoy yourself.I don't do smileys.
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When I started my feet were coming off the pedals all the time and whacking my shins, i spent the rirst 4 months looking like I had been savaged by a dog. But, some grippy pedals such as MG1's and perseverance and i never have a problem now. I have spds on my road bike i just bought and dont see a massive amount of difference with regards to efficiency. I'd keep persevering with the flats.My biggest fear is that should I crash, burn and die, my Wife would sell my stuff based upon what I told her I paid for it.0
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cooldad wrote:Just use whatever feels right for you and enjoy yourself.
SPDs will stop your feet coming off the pedals, however, that doesn't mean your technique will improve, and may make things worse further down the line.0 -
True I didn't register the feet coming off pedals a bit. Just imagine your body is a big set of springs and let it absorb the shocks and bumps. Especially your legs.
As they used to say when I was a lad, loose as a goose, although that might have been in a different context.I don't do smileys.
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I bought my SPDs after a month of owning my first bike in years.
Wouldn't go back to flats0 -
hiho9 wrote:I bought my SPDs after a month of owning my first bike in years.
Wouldn't go back to flats0 -
I struggled with this, but knew it was bad technique. On Downhills I just try and keep my heel down and toes up, legs slightly bent and loose. There's been a massive improvement. Other than Dow hills I didn't really have a problem with it but the overall skill is useful everywhere. I would imagine decent pedals and footwear would be a even bigger improvement though. There on the need list at the top.0
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I'm using M324 pedals atm so easy to use my trainers when i nip somewhere.
but been waiting 3 weeks for some dual sided ones to turn up form the classified to see if there's a difference.0 -
Dual sided SPD pedals - horrible, the flat side is a terrible flat pedal, and you never end up with the side you really want facing upwards.0
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YeehaaMcgee wrote:Dual sided SPD pedals - horrible, the flat side is a terrible flat pedal, and you never end up with the side you really want facing upwards.
What he said ^^ - If you're just riding roads, pavements and very light trails there annoying at best as soon as you really start mountain biking they are f.ing dangerous! My M324's lasted about 4 rides when I moved to the Alps before swapping them for some M530 Trail's
Have flats on the other bikes though. Enjoy riding with both.
But if you're feet are coming off the pedals a lot I'd personally stick with flats, at least until you've got that basic skill sorted then give SPD's a try and decide what you prefer."Why have that extra tooth if you're not using it?" - Brian Lopes
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hiho9 wrote:I'm using M324 pedals atm so easy to use my trainers when i nip somewhere.
but been waiting 3 weeks for some dual sided ones to turn up form the classified to see if there's a difference.
btw - when you say "dual sided" I'm presuming you just mean SPD's. A lot of people will think you mean the M324 type dual-sided SPD/Flat type pedals"Why have that extra tooth if you're not using it?" - Brian Lopes
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But if you're feet are coming off the pedals a lot I'd personally stick with flats, at least until you've got that basic skill sorted then give SPD's a try and decide what you prefer.
Though if you prefer riding with SPD's and aren't using flat's then that technique is irrelivent. Usual reason for reet coming off the pedals is either crap pedals or not dropping heels.
I'm just starting to use SPD's for downhill and really seeing some advantages. Even though I have used them on my XC bike for a few years and won't go back to flats for XC.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
Thanks for all the advice guys!
I honestly think my main issue is my pedals. They are just standard Wellgo ones which came on my new bike - small and limited traction. I have now put the pedals (ones which I upgraded to, some Onza ones) onto my new bike and although I haven't used them in anger yet, they feel a lot better already.
I am going to take your advice and continue with them for a while before trying out SPDs. I still bought the SPDs anyway as they were a bargain! So will just store them until I want to give them a go.
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RockmonkeySC wrote:But if you're feet are coming off the pedals a lot I'd personally stick with flats, at least until you've got that basic skill sorted then give SPD's a try and decide what you prefer.
Though if you prefer riding with SPD's and aren't using flat's then that technique is irrelivent. Usual reason for reet coming off the pedals is either crap pedals or not dropping heels
If the OP's feet are slipping off the pedals i.e when applying pressure through the cranks then I'd say it's down to crap pedals but if their feet are bouncing off the pedals i.e. on rough ground etc then I'd say the riding technique should be addressed first."Why have that extra tooth if you're not using it?" - Brian Lopes
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felix.london wrote:hiho9 wrote:I'm using M324 pedals atm so easy to use my trainers when i nip somewhere.
but been waiting 3 weeks for some dual sided ones to turn up form the classified to see if there's a difference.
btw - when you say "dual sided" I'm presuming you just mean SPD's. A lot of people will think you mean the M324 type dual-sided SPD/Flat type pedals
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RockmonkeySC wrote:Though if you prefer riding with SPD's and aren't using flat's then that technique is irrelivent.
Don't agree- if you're relying on your SPDs to keep you attached to your bike then you're not moving smoothly with the bike- which translates into unplanned weight shifts etc. The techniques that keep you on flats are still worth having on SPDs, they're not as essential but they help overall control and give you and the bike an easier time of it. Basically means you're riding with the bike not against it.Uncompromising extremist0 -
I went from welgo touring flat pedals to using my spds and I crashed a lot less, but I think that could have been achieved with a proper wide flat bmx style pedal, before my spd, my left foot used to naturally sit further out on the pedal than my left and my knee used to wobble at the top of each stroke, so I think they helped my technique. If your always going to ride spd, it doesn’t matter if you have bad flat technique.
I love the efficiency of them, push pull push pull, instead of push push push (think about it) it takes a bit of time to build the pulling muscles, I ride xc and a bit of freestyle. I would only go to flats if I was doing big dirt jumps, which is unlikely. and as for shimano shoes not looking cool, I'm a biker, I love my shimano shoes (well the goofy white sk8 trainers, could have a restyle and some deeper grip).
I have used the shimano dual use flat spd pedals, but the cage on the flat side, doesn’t allow for as much ground clearance, they are also more likely to grip than slide over a log, than spd spd dual entry I dont un clip a lot, so right side wrong side not an issue for me .
its all, down to practice and what works for you, and confidence.0