Food on the go
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There is a clear link between ride fuelling and weight loss but you have to assume the dieter is doing it right ( harris benedict maintenance calculation - sensible deficit) and is consuming ample calories before you factor in activity.Mikey23 wrote:
I would like to challenge this viewpoint because in a beginners forum it is very dangerous advice indeed and demonstrates a lack of understanding of how the body works. It is generally recognised that for moderate aerobic exercise such as cycling at 16mph for between 60 and 90 minutes the bodies existing carbohydrate fuel stores should be sufficient and you only need to focus on staying hydrated. Anything over that and you very definitely do need to replenish on the hoof and this is why there is so much debate about energy drinks, gels, cake stops etc. You might wish to 'run the tank empty' and get away with it every time and you probably will but you are inviting the possibility of some serious issues such as 'bonking' or even collapse. I know i am sounding a little judgemental and critical but there are plenty of scientific sports papers around that will back me up. I dont think there is any link between eating on a ride and losing weight either. you are only doing it to top up your bodies fuel reserves and get you round safely. (I am a running coach and cycling freak by the way)0 -
slowondefy, sorry i hope i wasnt being too negative! endurance nutrition is such a difficult area and it is hard to generalise. so much research has gone into it. one of the main purposes of training is to make your fuel systems more efficient at converting carbs and fat. nutrition prior to these long rides is important as marathon runners will tell you. ive hit the wall and its not pretty. i dont like those tribags either but i cant think of a better solution0
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So nobody knows how to bring jam sandwiches?0
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Bobbinogs wrote:
Yep, if you are planning on riding over 2 hours then you should keep the food going in, 4 hours is too long and I have known many bonk at that distance.
In 4 hours many people will have ridden 70-80 miles, far too far to go without eating!0 -
Have the same issue with "real" food in plastic bags, like he idea of wrapping it in grease proof papr with masking tape I have to say. I know my mates have less issues that myself but they ride no handed whilst getting stuff from pockets and eating.....and basically I can't lol0
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klep wrote:So nobody knows how to bring jam sandwiches?
Maybe switch from bread to bagels or something a tad more resistant to squashing?0 -
I was thinking about this after a long ride when I started to get sick of gels and was thinking of normal food.
+1 to the idea of fig rolls, maybe wrapped in twos in clingfilm?
Another idea I saw was to make some rice or pasta up with some sauce as lubrication (whatever flavour you like) and then portion it up into large mouthfull sized portions in sandwich bags. Then as you are cycling along you fish one out, bite the corner off the bag, and suck the contents out. A savoury snack you can eat one handed.
I should stress I haven't tried this yet, so it might not work. But I like the principle of having a savoury snack to balance out all the sweetness from the energy gels.
Of course, there are now gels with a more salty taste, and I still think there's a gap in the market for energy products with a savoury taste rather than a sweet one.... Cheese and onion energy bar anyone?0 -
I love jelly worms. Good energy, easy to get at. Terrible for your teeth.0
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Loads of fig rolls in a tri bag, works a treat0
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FWIW and a purely pers view...
I did one of my occasional 100+ mile solo runs the other day (as opposed to a sportiv with food stops or club run with cake stop).. Intake was as follows;
Breakfast of 3 x Weetabix plus malted shreddies plus porridge (uncooked) all in one bowl with lots of milk & sugar, and coffee, pint of milk, big glass of water.
750 & 900 ml bottles on the bike filled with industrial strength squash.
4 x cheapo snack bar things.
4 x energy gels, and one High 5 drinks powder (leftover from a sportiv in June), 2 x Nuun tabs.
At about 70 miles, refilled empty bottles with water from dodgy shop with tabs in one and powder in the other plus a pint of milk down the neck at the same time.
Last gel at about 95 miles.
There's no great need to carry shed loads of food & stuff. There are plenty of shops & garages around to top up on fluids; energy tablets & gels will see you through most reasonable distances as long as you control your hydration. Start off well hydrated and keep topped up. That's probably more important than stuffing jam sandwiches etc down your face for a three hour excursion.
HTH.0 -
I pull up, unwrap, eat mouthful, glug of liquid, ride on.
I'm under no illusions that what I do (30-50 miles on a SUnday) is harmed by the odd stop for a nibble of something to keep my pecker up.0 -
Is that where I'm going wrong ;-)0
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fig rolls for me but i struggle to get them down..its like eating dry crackers
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daysofspeed wrote:I'm under no illusions that what I do (30-50 miles on a SUnday) is harmed by the odd stop for a nibble of something to keep my pecker up.
Viagra? Purveyor of "up"
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