The National Game back soon.........
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22 blokes kicking a bag of wind. Rubbish sport full over over-paid bullys that think they are Gods gift.
National sport! We're rubbish at it - how many players in the premiership are actually British?
You can keep your football thanks.
Couldn't agree with you more, though I'd like to to try. 22 coiffured, over paid tarts trying to kick an inflated pigs bladder up and down a field to get it in between to bits of sticky up wood. Further more, most of them consistently fail to do that most spectacularly. If you and I were to perform badly in our jobs we would be fired. Footballers seem to have an overinflated opinion of themselves, and the job that they are supposed to do, and all the while loyal and devoted followers are let down and disappointed over and over again, yet every year they go back for more.
It is a very silly and pointless game.
Coincidently you and ride the same bike. Go figure!Trek Madone 3.5
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From the guardian's 5 talking points from charity shield.3. Blimey, football's back already
Everybody is agreed that the Olympics have been good for the soul and it feels as though there is a certain weariness about football's return. As the rain lashed down in the countdown to kick-off and the announcement of John Terry's name was jeered by the City fans, it was possible to consider a long nine months ahead. The Chelsea captain was condemned as a racist by City's support and his every touch was booed, as he was given a taster for what surely awaits him at away grounds this season.
There was play-acting here, back chat to the referee, Kevin Friend, aggro and fury over Ivanovic's red card. There were other poor tackles, too, and absolutely no charity. Ramires was very lucky to stay on. Welcome back football. You've been missed.0 -
rodgers73 wrote:First gold medal of the games rescinded due to doping -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19242736
Any changes of mind on the "purity" of Olympians v footballers?
Personally speaking, doping doesn't spoil the spectacle in the same way as play acting.
Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if a fair few footballers took performance enhancing (as well as degrading!) drugs.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
rodgers73 wrote:First gold medal of the games rescinded due to doping -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19242736
Any changes of mind on the "purity" of Olympians v footballers?
That's hardly a surprise - she was huuuge!
I don't think football is as pure as people make out - their testing is pretty poor - especially when compared to cycling or athletics.
They don't find anyone positive because they dont' look for them.I'm left handed, if that matters.0 -
y33stu wrote:1. The footage of Chris Hoy doing lactic acid tests in training, over and over, until he needs to be carried off the bike, and he's then sick. What footballer ever puts that much effort into any part of their 3 hour a day training?
Stuff like this is tremendously inspirational. But you're comparing apples and oranges .. football is not a game of endurance, its a game of skill. If you run around till you can't stand up then you have no balance, touch, pace, awareness etc. You have to be economical with your energy and think your way through a game, so that when those 1 or 2 opportunities arise in the game to score or make a game saving tackle or block, you execute correctly.All the above is just advice .. you can do whatever the f*ck you wana do!
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dw300 wrote:Stuff like this is tremendously inspirational. But you're comparing apples and oranges .. football is not a game of endurance, its a game of skill. If you run around till you can't stand up then you have no balance, touch, pace, awareness etc. You have to be economical with your energy and think your way through a game, so that when those 1 or 2 opportunities arise in the game to score or make a game saving tackle or block, you execute correctly.
I agree you cant really compare the two. But my point in general was the level of effort the two groups of sportsmen put in. Footballers can put very little effort in and still get paid huge amounts, and it doesn't matter to them if they win or lose. Whereas cyclists, and almost all olympians have trained their ars*s off for 4 years to put themselves in a position to win. That's the difference.
I openly admit, If i was paid £100k a week, why would I give 100%, or anywhere near it knowing I'll still get picked, still get paid, still get cheered. Thats the problem with football.Cycling prints
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Quite simply, some people watch a football match and see 22 guys kicking a ball around. It's no different to non-cyclists seeing a couple of hundred guys pedalling bikes up a road, whereas fans see all the subtleties, and follow it closely enough that even small events can be dramatic.
Others who enjoy it, are watching a game because they want to see a team win, have much more interest and involvement in the game. They see the strategy and tactics, the individual touches and the combination plays, they see the big picture and how that result matters in the larger scheme of the league, or in the success and history of club versus club. They also have gloating rights over their friends when their teams wins and get the pi$$ taken when they loose. It's something you can share with collegues to make your day at work more interesting.
You're either one or the other. I find most people that don't like the game don't support a team, and if you don't care who wins a game how can you enjoy it as much? All people that don't really follow the game see is the same teams winning, without any appreciation of how they got to that stage. They Man City spend a load of cash and win, but ignore the fantastic stories behind promoted teams staying up, relegation battles, etc. take Swansea's total football ethos last season, Liverpools recent woes, Spurs challenging the big 4, Newcastle's new strikers and overall finish. The last couple of football seasons have been amongst the best ever.All the above is just advice .. you can do whatever the f*ck you wana do!
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y33stu wrote:dw300 wrote:Stuff like this is tremendously inspirational. But you're comparing apples and oranges .. football is not a game of endurance, its a game of skill. If you run around till you can't stand up then you have no balance, touch, pace, awareness etc. You have to be economical with your energy and think your way through a game, so that when those 1 or 2 opportunities arise in the game to score or make a game saving tackle or block, you execute correctly.
I agree you cant really compare the two. But my point in general was the level of effort the two groups of sportsmen put in. Footballers can put very little effort in and still get paid huge amounts, and it doesn't matter to them if they win or lose. Whereas cyclists, and almost all olympians have trained their ars*s off for 4 years to put themselves in a position to win. That's the difference.
I openly admit, If i was paid £100k a week, why would I give 100%, or anywhere near it knowing I'll still get picked, still get paid, still get cheered. Thats the problem with football.
I knew a lad who went through the academy system at a PL club and trust me their pre-season is very hard work, they are as likely as Chris Hoy to re-visit their next previous during fitness training. What makes you think otherwise?rodgers73 wrote:
Rubbish interviews and massive egos v that woman who didn't get picked for the women cycling team moaning on a lot and Usain Bolt declaring himself a living legend?
Hmmm...
Do you really think comparing all the misdemeanors to have emanated from footballers over the years with Houvenaghel having bit of a moan about non-selection is a valid one? I think you need more meat to your argument in order to play devils advocate.0 -
y33stu wrote:dw300 wrote:Stuff like this is tremendously inspirational. But you're comparing apples and oranges .. football is not a game of endurance, its a game of skill. If you run around till you can't stand up then you have no balance, touch, pace, awareness etc. You have to be economical with your energy and think your way through a game, so that when those 1 or 2 opportunities arise in the game to score or make a game saving tackle or block, you execute correctly.
I agree you cant really compare the two. But my point in general was the level of effort the two groups of sportsmen put in. Footballers can put very little effort in and still get paid huge amounts, and it doesn't matter to them if they win or lose. Whereas cyclists, and almost all olympians have trained their ars*s off for 4 years to put themselves in a position to win. That's the difference.
I openly admit, If i was paid £100k a week, why would I give 100%, or anywhere near it knowing I'll still get picked, still get paid, still get cheered. Thats the problem with football.
I'd like you to provide some evidence and examples of the bold points above. To me that's simply your opinion. If it's so easy, why isn't everyone a footballer? I'll be impressed if you can find me any one on £100k+ who doesn't have plenty of honours on his CV. No matter what you say, football is not a game that you can get to the top without already having put in the hard work, you can't fluke a big contract, the business are too canny to do that.
Some players get to the top and can't perform as expected due to the pressures, but I'm sure that happens in every sport, I'd say you're highlighting a minuscule number that get to the top and put their feet up, when you think of the number of professionals in football compared to other sports. it's just easier to spot them as they feature so prominently in the media spotlight.
Only a few players are anywhere near that much money in the grand scheme of things, and they tend to be there for a reason. You seem to forget the fact that a player earns the club money in other ways too. If I sign Messi, I can pay him a sh*tload because I'll make it all back in merchandise, that's business. Their contracts are for more than just to play football, they have a lot of other responsibilities to promote the club as well. You seem to think that the harder you run, the better a player you are, which shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the game.
Top cyclist are on well over £1M a year. There's a bucketload of individuals and teams that under perform. How much was Tyler Farrar on for the Tour this year? He was utterly useless, didn't look like he'd ever ridden a bike or that he wanted to win, he made a valiant effort to win the lantern rouge, but we aren't complaining about him are we, because we understand the context of his situation.All the above is just advice .. you can do whatever the f*ck you wana do!
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dw300 wrote:Top cyclist are on well over £1M a year. There's a bucketload of individuals and teams that under perform. How much was Tyler Farrar on for the Tour this year? He was utterly useless, didn't look like he'd ever ridden a bike or that he wanted to win, he made a valiant effort to win the lantern rouge, but we aren't complaining about him are we, because we understand the context of his situation.
The top players may be able to justify the business sense in their wages but the trickle down effect means average players are getting over paid. IMHO of course.None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.0 -
bompington wrote:Wirral_Paul wrote:The badminton players were more a case of a flawed system forced upon them than cheating - especially when you're competing for your country and trying to avoid your team mates before the final (as the chinese pair were)
With the added bonus that it would hopefully stop one country dominating all of the events. Now if only the IOC could see sense and introduce that for other sports. Maybe the cycling?0 -
dw300 wrote:Quite simply, some people watch a football match and see 22 guys kicking a ball around. It's no different to non-cyclists seeing a couple of hundred guys pedalling bikes up a road, whereas fans see all the subtleties, and follow it closely enough that even small events can be dramatic.
Others who enjoy it, are watching a game because they want to see a team win, have much more interest and involvement in the game. They see the strategy and tactics, the individual touches and the combination plays, they see the big picture and how that result matters in the larger scheme of the league, or in the success and history of club versus club. They also have gloating rights over their friends when their teams wins and get the pi$$ taken when they loose. It's something you can share with collegues to make your day at work more interesting.
You're either one or the other. I find most people that don't like the game don't support a team, and if you don't care who wins a game how can you enjoy it as much? All people that don't really follow the game see is the same teams winning, without any appreciation of how they got to that stage. They Man City spend a load of cash and win, but ignore the fantastic stories behind promoted teams staying up, relegation battles, etc. take Swansea's total football ethos last season, Liverpools recent woes, Spurs challenging the big 4, Newcastle's new strikers and overall finish. The last couple of football seasons have been amongst the best ever.
I agree with everything you say above, but you're talking about the GAME of football. Unfortunately the BUSINESS of football (read: money) has corrupted the sport, literally in some admittedly minority cases and metaphorically on a more general scale.
I think the Olympics has brought it into focus for more people, but for quite some time I've been unable to identify with the ethos of those running the clubs and the (un)sporting attitude of many of the players. It's a long and complex argument, but it boils down to money ruining the game.
Somebody made a good point on another thread about performance related funding. If similar schemes were in place in the EPL, perhaps we'd see more players taking their job seriously.
And finally, football is (in my IMHO) no longer aspirational as a sport, but only for the fame and fortune it brings. Surely that's not what it should be about?0 -
verylonglegs wrote:y33stu wrote:dw300 wrote:Stuff like this is tremendously inspirational. But you're comparing apples and oranges .. football is not a game of endurance, its a game of skill. If you run around till you can't stand up then you have no balance, touch, pace, awareness etc. You have to be economical with your energy and think your way through a game, so that when those 1 or 2 opportunities arise in the game to score or make a game saving tackle or block, you execute correctly.
I agree you cant really compare the two. But my point in general was the level of effort the two groups of sportsmen put in. Footballers can put very little effort in and still get paid huge amounts, and it doesn't matter to them if they win or lose. Whereas cyclists, and almost all olympians have trained their ars*s off for 4 years to put themselves in a position to win. That's the difference.
I openly admit, If i was paid £100k a week, why would I give 100%, or anywhere near it knowing I'll still get picked, still get paid, still get cheered. Thats the problem with football.
I knew a lad who went through the academy system at a PL club and trust me their pre-season is very hard work, they are as likely as Chris Hoy to re-visit their next previous during fitness training. What makes you think otherwise?rodgers73 wrote:
Rubbish interviews and massive egos v that woman who didn't get picked for the women cycling team moaning on a lot and Usain Bolt declaring himself a living legend?
Hmmm...
Do you really think comparing all the misdemeanors to have emanated from footballers over the years with Houvenaghel having bit of a moan about non-selection is a valid one? I think you need more meat to your argument in order to play devils advocate.
My general point was that people in this thread are attributing semi-sainthood to Olympians and painting footballers as awful.
Granted, I don't have a list as long as your arm of poor interviews by Olympians over the last 2 weeks, but the point still stands that all the stuff that has been highlighted as evidence of footballers being crap can be seen occurring among Olympians too.
People are people, you're just ignoring floors in some of them because you like their sport.0 -
k-dog wrote:rodgers73 wrote:First gold medal of the games rescinded due to doping -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19242736
Any changes of mind on the "purity" of Olympians v footballers?
That's hardly a surprise - she was huuuge!
I don't think football is as pure as people make out - their testing is pretty poor - especially when compared to cycling or athletics.
They don't find anyone positive because they dont' look for them.
Panorama did a report on drug testing in football last year. They found the regime was pretty weak, but the main drug found (and punishments for it were pretty lame) was cocaine rather than EPO/growth hormone etc.
Still doesn't explain why this Olympian isn't living up to the ideal etc.0 -
Former England Captain, John Terry, Impregnate your team mates girlfriend, Throw her a wedge to abort the child and then pay a lawyer so no one can report it in the press.
Clearly call fellow professional during a televised match "Black C*nt" and then commit perjury in court stating you where only asking if that what the guy thought you called him.
Kick fellow professional in the back from behind whilst he's not even on the ball and get banned from your clubs biggest game of the season, but still insist on coming out and collecting the trophy you jeopardised your team chance of winning in the first place.
Ryan Giggs Team GB Olympic football captain, Have and adulterous affair with your Brothers wife for years then spend millions on a lawyer to insure that its kept out of the press, Throw your brother a weeks wages to shut him up, then parade around Wembley with your wife and kid pretending your the perfect family man.
Part of the reason I stopped following England internationals was that I live in fear that one day we might live up to the hype and actually win something, then there will be calls for the likes of Terry , Cole et al to be Knighted a la ,
Charlton / Hurst and that would just be a travesty.0 -
Well, that's 2 individuals (3 if you count Cole as well) out of around 5-600 Premiership players and lord knows how many in the League overall.
We know sod all about the private lives of the Olympic competitors, primarily because they appeared in this country for 2-3 weeks only, 99% of them are completely unknown to 99% of British people and haven't been subject to the constant press scrutiny that football players here are.
Who knows what some of them might be like!0 -
rodgers73 wrote:Well, that's 2 individuals (3 if you count Cole as well) out of around 5-600 Premiership players and lord knows how many in the League overall.
We know sod all about the private lives of the Olympic competitors, primarily because they appeared in this country for 2-3 weeks only, 99% of them are completely unknown to 99% of British people and haven't been subject to the constant press scrutiny that football players here are.
Who knows what some of them might be like!
Indeed, but surely if they were anything like the turds that get worshipped as footballers in this country the gutter press would have sniifed it out by now? I heard a radio interview with the double skulls winners Copeland and Hosking and it was a shocking contrast, one is back to Afghanistan with her regiment next month and the other is undecided about finishing her degree at uni and getting a career. Compare this with folk who get an agent to ask for an increase from 100k a week to 150k week because 'it's a short career innit?' is embarassing. Do they have a right to retire as multi-millionaires in their late thirties? And I say this as someone who's spent more time on football than any other sport, both playing and watching. I love the game as a combined test of skill and athletiscism but professionally it's in appalling shape and FIFA won't do anything as long as the cash is still rolling in.0 -
rodgers73 wrote:Well, that's 2 individuals (3 if you count Cole as well) out of around 5-600 Premiership players and lord knows how many in the League overall.
We know sod all about the private lives of the Olympic competitors, primarily because they appeared in this country for 2-3 weeks only, 99% of them are completely unknown to 99% of British people and haven't been subject to the constant press scrutiny that football players here are.
Who knows what some of them might be like!
I quoted Terry and Giggs because one is a former England Captain and One was Captain of Team GB football during the Olympics.
I could have cited examples and names at length ( and on one or two occasions through personal experience)
I appreciate that these guys live their lives under the microscope of intense media scrutiny and the label of being "a role model" when they never choose to be so. buy hey the premier league is really all about SKY ( and lets face it Murdoch could taint the Nativity)
I am an Arsenal fan,(Born May 4 1971 , was very nearly called Ray Kennedy/ Middle names are Charlie George) it cost me about £80-£100 with travelling excetera to go to each game ( 30 last season including EPL games)
I have to admit that due to recent hardships I will be going to Mansfield, Notts County, York City and Burton Albion games mainly this season, and you know what I am really , really looking forward to it.
the difference as previously stated is Football is a massive business. and why I dont doubt that some mega stars such as Ennis . Bolt, Farah will never have to struggle for money for the rest of their lives, I still dont think in proportion that the amount of effort and dedication they put in is any way recoginised in the same way that professional footballers are eulogised.
I m a football fanatic , player and fan for over 30 years, but the last two weeks have been awesome.
" Inspire a generation " Lets hope they do.0 -
For the first time in my life time I have no interest in the coming season.
Football is killing itself by breeding these moronic over paid prima donnas. The game is a joke it's no longer a man's game.
Thank you to all Olympians for fully opening my eyes to what real sports people are.0 -
random man wrote:I agree totally with Tim Wand - I've been a football fan since 1967 but I really question what it has to offer these days. Premier League games are overpriced and don't offer anything like value for money entertainment-wise.
Only non-league football can provide that IMO, and the players play for the love of it rather than the money a lot of the time.
Hopefully a lot of people in this country will come to a similar conclusion after watching the Olympics and realise there is a lot more to sport than watching a load of overpaid prima donnas in the Premiership.
I'll see ya down Watnall road on Sat'day then mate.
Like it or not football is our national sport, whether we're any good at it or not, a bit like cycling and France.
I cheered on our cyclists, athletes, swimmers,boxers, gymnasts,rowers,equestrians,shooters.canoeists the whole bloomin lot of 'em. However, will you find me at a velodrome,running track, swimming pool, boxing venue, sports hall,regatta, gymkana, shooting range or white water centre..................NO! and neither will 99% of those who post on here.
Football is what it is, as are all sports. The fact the players get paid a lot in some respects is neither here nor there.Tail end Charlie
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Football - Tribal - Brilliant - I love it.
Re: how much footballers are paid.
Yes crazy, crazy money.
But then (using the "22 men kicking a bag of wind" analogy) it's the same in Golf (man hitting ball with long stick), Tennis (man hitting ball with big bat over net), Basketball (man bouncing a ball up and down and pitching it into a net).
And in the media too - Tom cruise earning $100m a year, ex Beatle with a net worth of £4/5/600m, Newsreaders on £500k a year, *isspot boy bands worth millions etc etc.
Not just football gone mad! So why is it always this sport that gets all the stick? Personally I think a top cyclist getting £1m a year ie about 6 times what our Prime Minister gets is absurd. Not much flack on here for them though.
And yes, well done the Olympic athletes but they are just ordinary people who happen to be good at something. On The One Show we were supposed to be amazed that Beth Tweddle trained for 30 hours a week but in the next breath we learned that she has never had a job in her life. Suddenly 30 hours effort a week doesn't seem quite so heroic.0 -
Frank the tank wrote:random man wrote:I agree totally with Tim Wand - I've been a football fan since 1967 but I really question what it has to offer these days. Premier League games are overpriced and don't offer anything like value for money entertainment-wise.
Only non-league football can provide that IMO, and the players play for the love of it rather than the money a lot of the time.
Hopefully a lot of people in this country will come to a similar conclusion after watching the Olympics and realise there is a lot more to sport than watching a load of overpaid prima donnas in the Premiership.
I'll see ya down Watnall road on Sat'day then mate.
Like it or not football is our national sport, whether we're any good at it or not, a bit like cycling and France.
I cheered on our cyclists, athletes, swimmers,boxers, gymnasts,rowers,equestrians,shooters.canoeists the whole bloomin lot of 'em. However, will you find me at a velodrome,running track, swimming pool, boxing venue, sports hall,regatta, gymkana, shooting range or white water centre..................NO! and neither will 99% of those who post on here.
Football is what it is, as are all sports. The fact the players get paid a lot in some respects is neither here nor there.
Frank / Random should have worked it out that youre a pair of yellows, let me know when you play the Daniels (got a few mates who kick a ball for Stamford) and I ll come over for some friendly banter and real football.0 -
Its called the national game because the media tell us it is, and thats what sells their newspapers, programmes etc.
Up here its all changing, just look at the Rangers fiasco, premier league football has treated their fans with disdain over the years and Rangers management are now turning to their fans to help them through their "darkest hour" by supplying free pies at home games !!. They struggled against a part time team at the weekend but still command top salaries, and with no Sky money heading their way methinks they now realize how important the humble fan is to them. Bill Shankly used to get the players to go out after a game and thank the fans. gone are the days.
And before anyone accuses me of having a go at the Gers, my 5 brothers(aye dont mess pal) were all season ticket holders 'til last year. I just liked the fact one of their strikers used to cycle to Ibrox for training (1970s)0 -
NickintheLakes wrote:Personally I think a top cyclist getting £1m a year ie about 6 times what our Prime Minister gets is absurd. Not much flack on here for them though.
Tony Blair never amassed his fortune on salary alone. Neither will David Cameron, Gordon Brown or any other.....None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.0 -
roryboy wrote:Its called the national game because the media tell us it is, and thats what sells their newspapers, programmes etc.
Up here its all changing, just look at the Rangers fiasco, premier league football has treated their fans with disdain over the years and Rangers management are now turning to their fans to help them through their "darkest hour" by supplying free pies at home games !!. They struggled against a part time team at the weekend but still command top salaries, and with no Sky money heading their way methinks they now realize how important the humble fan is to them. Bill Shankly used to get the players to go out after a game and thank the fans. gone are the days.
And before anyone accuses me of having a go at the Gers, my 5 brothers(aye dont mess pal) were all season ticket holders 'til last year. I just liked the fact one of their strikers used to cycle to Ibrox for training (1970s)
Unfortunately being the big money business and global commodity that football has become , it has forgotten that it earned the Moniker of "The National Game" because it was based in the communities and neighbourhoods that once sustained it. Now teams like my beloved Arsenal will sign players like Park, because they can shift a load of marketing rights in the far east. (Fortunately despite being the first team to submit a 16 man overseas team sheet) we still sign players like the OX.
In one sense I hate to see what has happened to a once great club like Rangers, but I think the humility learnt will hopefully be a lesson to all.
I was born in North London to a family of Gooners, I now live and occasionally teach in Nottinghamshire, one of my best mates lads used to play for Forest (Paul Anderson) and I ve played Sundays in a back four which included Bryn Gunn (European cup winner) suffice to say I get some freebies, but I cant give em away at the School to kids, who hero worship but will never see Ballotelli, Rooney and Terry. Its Saddening and why ultimately many clubs will go to the wall.
I have now decided to attend conference and League Two games this year. I am going to work out how much money I save and donate it at the end of the season to my Local Youth team for new strips.
P.S Mancini rides to training every day at City so I dont think its a sign of the common man anymore.0 -
It got up my nose on Sunday that even before the Olympics had finished we were being treated to Top Level Football again. In mid August. Yeah? I caught about 5 minutes of it and in that time saw a fairly simple knock-in goal being treated as the greatest goal ever scored, then saw a couple of players seemingly nudge against each other more by design than accidentally and both collapse to the floor in apparent agony in an an attempt to gain some advantage, then soon after that one of the participants was ordered to take no further part in proceedings after a full studs up shin high challenge.
The TdF, the Olympics, we've been spoilt rotten this summer. And before we can sit back and have a few days off we've got the Charity Shield being treated as the most important game you could hope to see, a night full of shouty men describing goals that are each apparently so unexpectedly unique in their brilliance that it took more than 2 hours of BBC3 to cover each act of unique brilliance. And tomorrow we have the blessing of the 8th best team in the Euros playing its second reserve team against a bunch of disinterested Italian reserves in a meaningless match that's designed purely to get football firmly back on the agenda.
Football's back. A season of grown men brushing against or perhaps just being near to an opponent and having to collapse in a heap to prove how injured they are. Attention by trained medics is the only way these men can continue after being brutally within whispering distance of another burly man who also falls to the ground mortally wounded. And The Face of Football? The ugly sneering arrogance of Rooney, badgering refs to recognise his right to fall in a heap when it suits, playing like the complete waste of space that he actually is when representing the nation in those odd few England matches that he can actually deem it within himself to be available for.
I used to love football. After the joy of things like Wimbledon, theTdF, and obviously the Olympics, the thought of 10 months of play-acting diving cheating & semi-articulate players being asked to describe their latest wonder goal doesn't enthral me, and certainly doesn't put a subscription to Sky Sports anywhere on the radar.
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CiB wrote:It got up my nose on Sunday that even before the Olympics had finished we were being treated to Top Level Football again. In mid August. Yeah?
/humbug
The Charity/Community Shield game has been going since 1908.
It's always been played at this time of year - i.e it's a pre-season event.
if you don't like it then don't watch it - it hasn't been specifically scheduled to annoy you.0 -
NickintheLakes wrote:But then (using the "22 men kicking a bag of wind" analogy) it's the same in Golf (man hitting ball with long stick), Tennis (man hitting ball with big bat over net), Basketball (man bouncing a ball up and down and pitching it into a net).
And indeed, cycling is just 'riding a bike', something I have heard someone say completely earnestly - pretty much all sports are easy if you ignore the competitive aspect.0 -
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I've had a season ticket for 40 years without realising it was so complicated.
I thought you just went, moaned, occaisionally cheered, went on the drink, then talked about 90 min fotball for about 7 days
better than that olympics shoot, no trolling
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