Anxiety or slightly paranoid Over training?

whojanicanackerov

With training hard I can suffer from Anxiety or a mild paranoid day or two.
Is this sort of thing common and linked to over training maybe?

Herbsman

Do you put cannabis in your recovery drink?

estampida

there must be a trigger for this

if you have rest days does it ever occur, or just when pushing too hard for too many days....

maybe you are just putting too much focus on these events

and speak to a professional in these matters (psychologist not a psychiatrist, these will be provided by your GP, after a wee talk and probably a blood check......)

no one in the family suffers for heart arrhythmia or such like

it will be nowt but you need to check

jonomc4

nope paranoia comes from cocaine

whojanicanackerov

LOL at the drug jokes.
Thanks for the more serious replies.
Thing is it`s not every week or every month the anxiety just shows up now and again It`s seems to get the better of me when I tired. When I`m fresh I seem to manage it well.It`s usually the work place that triggers it.
Well the answer could be new job LOL.But it would happen again in new place after the honeymoon period.
I have visited the GP Maybe I should go again and ask for some help.

mattshrops

If anxiety is something that you suffer from it presumably can have a snowball effect? anxious about being aanxious, i guess? Definitely see the doctor and try to get a referral to speak to a specialist. I had help after a motorbike accident and i believe it has been good for me. The only shame would be to let it affect the rest of your life.Do it.

dw300

That's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the universe gets that. - Slartibartfast

Herbsman

In all seriousness, I sometimes get really negative feelings, self doubt, self pity, lack of self esteem, a feeling that it's all pointless. I am more likely to feel like this when I'm fatigued. But when I've had some rest I feel completely normal again. If it worries you see a doctor

trek_dan

Similar to poster above I also suffer from anxiety/depression mostly due to job and private life issues. I tend to find that having something to focus on and the enjoyment of cycling makes it better though not worse. My biggest problem is when I have anxious periods I can't sleep, a few days of surviving on 3 or 4 hours sleep a night makes me tired and grumpy which in turn makes me more anxious, and means I have less energy for training which in turns makes me more miserable. Viscous circle. I've been to a GP and had a few counselling sessions, but didnt really find it helped, and for the moment I refuse to take any sort of "happy tablet." I don't really have an answer to your original question, but seeing your GP would be a good start if it becomes an issue.

Zoomer37

Herbsman wrote:

In all seriousness, I sometimes get really negative feelings, self doubt, self pity, lack of self esteem, a feeling that it's all pointless.

Your not surfing Wiggle are you when you feel like this?

Op - You could try changing your daily/weekly patterns for a bit. Its very easy to let cycling into your life a little bit to much and before you know it it will kind of take over everything. That may sound bollocks, but when you start neglecting normal stuff like seeing friends and going out now n then for some beers and generally spend more time thinking about cycling more than the wife and other things in life, it can have an negative effect on one's mood I think. Its all about balance

This weekend leave the bike at home, go out, get drunk, eat pizza with kebab meat all over it. Life is good and to be honest we are all a bit mental.

disorganisedmum

trek_dan wrote:

Similar to poster above I also suffer from anxiety/depression mostly due to job and private life issues. I tend to find that having something to focus on and the enjoyment of cycling makes it better though not worse. My biggest problem is when I have anxious periods I can't sleep, a few days of surviving on 3 or 4 hours sleep a night makes me tired and grumpy which in turn makes me more anxious, and means I have less energy for training which in turns makes me more miserable. Viscous circle. I've been to a GP and had a few counselling sessions, but didnt really find it helped, and for the moment I refuse to take any sort of "happy tablet." I don't really have an answer to your original question, but seeing your GP would be a good start if it becomes an issue.

I'm also in the same boat as you.I have been battling depression for about 18 months and am on ad's however exercise has a massively positive impact on me and after trying a few diff things I have found cycling and am hooked.My problem is that I have a tendancy to overdo/overthink things and I also get quite obsessive (sound like a right nutjob don't I!).That said,cycling has become my one love and would love to train up and race competitively but no idea how you go about doing that.

Herbsman

Zoomer37 wrote:

Herbsman wrote:

In all seriousness, I sometimes get really negative feelings, self doubt, self pity, lack of self esteem, a feeling that it's all pointless.

Your not surfing Wiggle are you when you feel like this?

No it's the continual failure to win road races!

whojanicanackerov

I think tiredness plays a big part in my down time(anxiety) Working,training hard and having a 2 year old daughter plus to older boys isn`t easy.Don`t get me wrong my family life is great and isn`t a factor in the the anxiety.
Tiredness triggers it.And It`s the work place where it gets me.It`s where other peoples moods effect mine.
An example would be when some one has a Pop or insults me I struggle to dismiss it or over look it.
I start doubt myself Etc. This being when I`m over tired.
Could it be the fact I`m in my late thirties and having kids that has sent me soft LOL.

OH and a BIG thanks to all of you for letting me know I`m not the only one who suffers from time to time

ShutUpLegs

All quite normal as long as it's not feelings of despair you have. Probably just have to ease up a bit and get plenty of recovery rides in. I find after really hard days not to have too busy a work day in the following day or 2.

Calpol

I have some experience of this however more frequently immediately after a session. I too use exercise to balance the stresses of every day life and have suffered from bouts of anxiety. The symptoms of anxiety can be similar to those induced by exercise ie increased heart rate. My anxiety has frequently surrounded suspected health issues and at one point I would be scared to ride incase I had a heart attack!! However the more I have done and the fitter I have got then the easier it is to control that anxiety or phobia. If you are in any doubt see your doctor for a degree of reassurance, I say a degree because really you have to work this out for yourself. I have resisted any medication and just battle through but cycling really helps. Getting fitter is a great self esteem boost and I have found Strava a great way of measuring the improvements in my fitness - there is no better boost to your self esteem than seeing 1 min knocked off your time on your local Cat 3 climb! Good luck and pm me if you want any more feedback.

disorganisedmum

whojanicanackerov wrote:

I think tiredness plays a big part in my down time(anxiety) Working,training hard and having a 2 year old daughter plus to older boys isn`t easy.Don`t get me wrong my family life is great and isn`t a factor in the the anxiety.
Tiredness triggers it.And It`s the work place where it gets me.It`s where other peoples moods effect mine.
An example would be when some one has a Pop or insults me I struggle to dismiss it or over look it.
I start doubt myself Etc. This being when I`m over tired.
Could it be the fact I`m in my late thirties and having kids that has sent me soft LOL.

OH and a BIG thanks to all of you for letting me know I`m not the only one who suffers from time to time

God,I can totally relate to that feeling of not being able to get over criticism.I dwell on it and also doubt myself.I always say I have an inferiority complex.

whojanicanackerov

I have just bought the book Chimp paradox in a hope to help understand these delicate issues that effect me from time to time.
Thing is with feelings they are just feelings and their is nothing real that is their other than the thoughts in that moment of anxiety.It can just take hold and shake you from your inner core to your boots.Sometimes lasting up to a couple of hours.
Calpol thanks for your advise I am quite fit and my health is very good I use Strava and hold of few KOM`s Hehe.
I think if I trained my mind as well as I trained my body my mental strength would be greater adapt to the every day crap that work life throws at it.

dw300

Whatever you think, it's true.

ut_och_cykla

Quick answer is don't let yourself get tired - but obviously that's not very easy or helpful. Personally if its affecting your daily life (what you consider is normal for you/family) I would get professional help. Mild depression is often helped by regular but not exhausting exercise - so perhaps back off a bit there for a few weeks or find a way of coping with the acute anxiety with calm time with family for example.
If it really is a problem - don't be afraid to try meds under doctors supervision - they really helped a relative of mine, together with COgnitive behavoural therapy - no psychobabble - just concrete help.

ShutUpLegs

dw300 wrote:

Whatever you think, it's true.

All of it :?:

BruunLoss

My two cents: I've suffered from Severe Anxiety Disorder for more then 4 years now - it is horrible and snowballs and can lead to a serious loss of quality of life. But there are things that can help and cycling helps me greatly. I wont go into too much here but if you have about 10-15 minutes, I have a page on my site about anxiety, cycling and how things help... www.renebruun.com

whojanicanackerov

BruunLoss wrote:

My two cents: I've suffered from Severe Anxiety Disorder for more then 4 years now - it is horrible and snowballs and can lead to a serious loss of quality of life. But there are things that can help and cycling helps me greatly. I wont go into too much here but if you have about 10-15 minutes, I have a page on my site about anxiety, cycling and how things help... http://www.renebruun.com

Thanks I will have me a read tonight.
I was a bit worried posting on here about a weakness. but to my surprise the response has been very helpful all round even the humoured ones!!

dw300

ShutUpLegs wrote:

dw300 wrote:

Whatever you think, it's true.

All of it :?:

That was kind of regarding the following statement, but it was just to make people think a bit about how they think.

disorganisedmum wrote:

God,I can totally relate to that feeling of not being able to get over criticism.I dwell on it and also doubt myself.I always say I have an inferiority complex.

dw300

whojanicanackerov wrote:

BruunLoss wrote:

My two cents: I've suffered from Severe Anxiety Disorder for more then 4 years now - it is horrible and snowballs and can lead to a serious loss of quality of life. But there are things that can help and cycling helps me greatly. I wont go into too much here but if you have about 10-15 minutes, I have a page on my site about anxiety, cycling and how things help... http://www.renebruun.com

Thanks I will have me a read tonight.
I was a bit worried posting on here about a weakness. but to my surprise the response has been very helpful all round even the humoured ones!!

It's almost as if everyone has insecurities and knows what it feels like.

BruunLoss

dw300 wrote:

whojanicanackerov wrote:

BruunLoss wrote:

My two cents: I've suffered from Severe Anxiety Disorder for more then 4 years now - it is horrible and snowballs and can lead to a serious loss of quality of life. But there are things that can help and cycling helps me greatly. I wont go into too much here but if you have about 10-15 minutes, I have a page on my site about anxiety, cycling and how things help... http://www.renebruun.com

Thanks I will have me a read tonight.
I was a bit worried posting on here about a weakness. but to my surprise the response has been very helpful all round even the humoured ones!!

It's almost as if everyone has insecurities and knows what it feels like.

True, only my Anxiety Disorder put me into hospital on more then one occasion. DW300 are you on Twitter? Always nice to see what other cyclists in Ireland are doing. I'm @BruunLoss

dw300

BruunLoss wrote:

dw300 wrote:

True, only my Anxiety Disorder put me into hospital on more then one occasion. DW300 are you on Twitter? Always nice to see what other cyclists in Ireland are doing. I'm @BruunLoss

I don't really post on it much, but I'm on there. Just followed you .. you'll know who i am.