What the Frankenbike is wiggins riding here?

andysol
andysol Posts: 125
edited July 2012 in Pro race
What was wiggins riding in the metro the other day? I looks 3 sizes too small with a pointy up stem. I thought it contravened a large number of rules of taste and decency!(Except the matt black of course)
Am i correct? Or am i missing something?
Andysol
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http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/906079-bradley-wiggins-can-still-get-better-insists-team-skys-dave-brailsford
Evidently i mostly have a FCN of 1. I'm now a lady!
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  • tremayne
    tremayne Posts: 378
    Pretty much been covered earlier this week.

    In essence this will be a product of the 'secret squirrel' club, and perhaps terry Dolan will have had a hand in it.

    Either way - if you were making a bike with no regard at all to saleability and total regard to function, then this is probably it!

    Nothing would be stopping wiggins using a pinarello, other than this will have bee deemed superior.
  • skylla
    skylla Posts: 758
    I like it! So much more civilised than a (yellow) pinarello. Knowing the kind of research that goes on at BC it must be a seriously fast and stiff bike. Very understated.

    Your question should be: who told Brad it would be really mod to wear the yellow lid??
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Isnt it that same designer who makes the BC track bikes ? I forget his name but it sounds Greek.
    I don't think Dolan is involved in this ?
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Tony Rominger rode a Colnago with 650c wheels a while back, I think the idea was that it was better for riding in a bunch, you could get closer to the guy in front.
  • me-109
    me-109 Posts: 1,915
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Tony Rominger rode a Colnago with 650c wheels a while back, I think the idea was that it was better for riding in a bunch, you could get closer to the guy in front.
    Maybe it was just because Rominger was not the biggest of riders so they could make a frame fit him better?
    There is a secondary argument that says they provide acceleration and handling benefits.
  • PBo
    PBo Posts: 2,493
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Tony Rominger rode a Colnago with 650c wheels a while back, I think the idea was that it was better for riding in a bunch, you could get closer to the guy in front.

    Really? 2.5 cm would make that much difference? (genuine question)
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,718
    Could he be riding a road bike to replicate the TT position ? a bit of cross training...
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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Me-109 wrote:
    Maybe it was just because Rominger was not the biggest of riders so they could make a frame fit him better?
    There is a secondary argument that says they provide acceleration and handling benefits.

    Quick internet search says he was 5' 9", don't think that's short, is it?
    PBo wrote:
    Really? 2.5 cm would make that much difference? (genuine question)

    No idea, I'm just recounting the article in Cycle Sport as I remember it. I could see that a bike with a shorter wheelbase would be easier to handle in a bunch. Smaller wheels would be lighter, but then as Pro bikes have to weigh 6.8 kg, the only benefit is as Me-109 says is acceleration? Maybe as the wheels create turbulent air, using a smaller wheel is more aero? Just guessing now, as you might have guessed. :D
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Worse ride quality with smaller wheels.


    Certainly wouldn't want smaller wheels on the ORR descent.
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  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Worse ride quality with smaller wheels.


    You should know.

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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Worse ride quality with smaller wheels.


    Certainly wouldn't want smaller wheels on the ORR descent.

    That's why Moulton added suspension to his bikes.
  • shinyhelmut
    shinyhelmut Posts: 1,364
    PBo wrote:
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Tony Rominger rode a Colnago with 650c wheels a while back, I think the idea was that it was better for riding in a bunch, you could get closer to the guy in front.

    Really? 2.5 cm would make that much difference? (genuine question)

    Some years ago BC were looking at using small wheel bikes for the team pursuit for exactly this reason, although I think they were talking about 24" or smaller. In one of their few sensible decisions the UCI changed the rules to prevent this.
  • PBo
    PBo Posts: 2,493
    Why is that a sensible decision? Surely if sky want to ride win bmx wheels, that's up to them..?
  • moonshine
    moonshine Posts: 1,021
    edited July 2012
    who manufactures the BC frame?
    Are the Olympics run under UCI? if so, is the frame "approved"?
    http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/getOb ... E&LangId=1

    the UK Sport "shop says they are UCI approved - so are they the "Bridgestone Cycle (BC?) co ? Looks like it to me.... :idea: http://www.uksport.gov.uk/pages/cycling/
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    moonshine wrote:
    who manufactures the BC frame?
    Are the Olympics run under UCI? if so, is the frame "approved"?
    http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/getOb ... E&LangId=1

    Boardman answered this a while back. Absolutely everything has been run past them to avoid any dramatic scenes at the games.
  • moonshine
    moonshine Posts: 1,021
    can you use non 700c wheels? I can't see anything in the regs that say no.
    http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/getOb ... Y&LangId=1
    except, that "non-standard" wheels have to be on the list - http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/getOb ... Y&LangId=1
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Herman the German or whatever he was called (the guy who Boardman beat in the pursuit final in Barca) had a bike with a small wheel on the front. It looked like a Raleigh Chopper
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  • moonshine
    moonshine Posts: 1,021
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Herman the German or whatever he was called (the guy who Boardman beat in the pursuit final in Barca) had a bike with a small wheel on the front. It looked like a Raleigh Chopper
    yip.. i know that, but the UCI have been changing the game quite significantly of late with various interpretations etc... bear in mind that Boardman's Lotus would no measure if it was a new frame.
  • moonshine
    moonshine Posts: 1,021
    I guess one of the major factors against a non standard wheel (i.e non 700c) would be the inability to use a neutral service wheel from the mavic car.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    edited July 2012
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Herman the German or whatever he was called (the guy who Boardman beat in the pursuit final in Barca) had a bike with a small wheel on the front. It looked like a Raleigh Chopper

    You mean this?

    chris-boardman-winning-the-olympic-pursuit-gold-medal-as-he-passes-the-german-1992.jpg

    But then of course, the bike Boardman was using is now banned anyway.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Herman the German or whatever he was called (the guy who Boardman beat in the pursuit final in Barca) had a bike with a small wheel on the front. It looked like a Raleigh Chopper

    Jens Lehmann (not the ex-goalkeeper)? Was his front wheel any smaller than the standard low profile bikes that were used on the track or in TTs back at that time?
  • me-109
    me-109 Posts: 1,915
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    chris-boardman-winning-the-olympic-pursuit-gold-medal-as-he-passes-the-german-1992.jpg
    "See Jens, size does matter!"

    re: earlier post - Rominger 5'9"?! Always seemed to be riding about a 21" frame so figured he was smaller. Ho-hum!
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Lehmann's bike looks awful. I'm glad that one was banned.

    It would be interesting to see what track pursuiters would be riding if the designers were given a free hand...
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Lehmann's bike looks awful. I'm glad that one was banned.

    It would be interesting to see what track pursuiters would be riding if the designers were given a free hand...

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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Lehmann's bike looks awful. I'm glad that one was banned.

    Oh, I dunno, I used to quite like TT bikes with a small front wheel.

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  • reverendmark
    reverendmark Posts: 67
    moonshine wrote:
    who manufactures the BC frame?
    Are the Olympics run under UCI? if so, is the frame "approved"?
    http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/getOb ... E&LangId=1

    the UK Sport "shop says they are UCI approved - so are they the "Bridgestone Cycle (BC?) co ? Looks like it to me.... :idea: http://www.uksport.gov.uk/pages/cycling/

    It's the Metron, I think
  • moonshine
    moonshine Posts: 1,021
    reverendmark wrote:
    moonshine wrote:
    who manufactures the BC frame?
    Are the Olympics run under UCI? if so, is the frame "approved"?
    http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/getOb ... E&LangId=1

    the UK Sport "shop says they are UCI approved - so are they the "Bridgestone Cycle (BC?) co ? Looks like it to me.... :idea: http://www.uksport.gov.uk/pages/cycling/

    It's the Metron, I think
    I think you are right.... UKSI .. united Kingdom sports institute?
  • alihisgreat
    alihisgreat Posts: 3,872
    moonshine wrote:
    who manufactures the BC frame?
    Are the Olympics run under UCI? if so, is the frame "approved"?
    http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/getOb ... E&LangId=1

    the UK Sport "shop says they are UCI approved - so are they the "Bridgestone Cycle (BC?) co ? Looks like it to me.... :idea: http://www.uksport.gov.uk/pages/cycling/


    http://road.cc/content/news/62533-olympic-road-race-tech-six-bikes-and-their-riders-could-win-gold:
    So, what will he ride then? It looks like he'll ride a bike provided by UK Sport, using a frame made along similar lines to those the track team will race in the velodrome. The frames have been developed by Advanced Composites Group, a leading composite development company based in the UK.
  • campagone
    campagone Posts: 270
    Cav was on it/one today
    http://cyclingweekly.media.ipcdigital.c ... C-0224.jpg
    They're not going to be riding these in the road race on Satuarday are they?
  • thamacdaddy
    thamacdaddy Posts: 590
    These are the bikes they will be using on Saturday yes. They spent mega bucks on them so they aren't just for training.

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