Kimmage, anyone?

iainf72
iainf72 Posts: 15,784
edited July 2012 in Pro race
Not sure if it's been posted elsewhere

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/others ... mmage.html
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,821
    DM's even trolling the cycling world now.
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  • ShavenLegs
    ShavenLegs Posts: 33
    You can always rely on Kimmage to drag even the most positive cycling story down into one about doping.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    The one thing that's disappointing me with Kimmage et al is how no one seems to have doing the Pippo -> Ferrari -> Rogers thing yet.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    Kimmage = Sad bitter man.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,398
    meh, like reading a Biking Bernie/The Yorkshire Man Post...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • avoidingmyphd
    avoidingmyphd Posts: 1,154
    ShavenLegs wrote:
    You can always rely on Kimmage to drag even the most positive cycling story down into one about doping.
    He has usually been right. And often (e.g. the cancer exchange) by saying stuff that lots of people around him know, but only he is prepared to pursue.

    Here, though, his key point seems to be that Wiggins needs to explain his team's doctor selection policy. Hmm.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,821
    ddraver wrote:
    meh, like reading a Biking Bernie/The Yorkshire Man Post...


    Really?

    Tl;dr for most of his posts TBH.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,398
    If I say they re definitely the same person, have I dobbed one of them in to a mod?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,821
    ddraver wrote:
    If I say they re definitely the same person, have I dobbed one of them in to a mod?

    Mod may be stupid.

    Mod is not that stupid however.
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 6,963
    As one responder says, it's a shame Kimmage twists the truth to suit a good headline, and ignores publically stated reasons for the change in tack over medical staff. He does his credibility damage by that.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    via @raceradio

    Problem w/ Leinders is he left Rabo in anger because he disagreed with new, clean, direction. Doesn't sound like a guy who embraces change
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,821
    iainf72 wrote:
    via @raceradio

    Problem w/ Leinders is he left Rabo in anger because he disagreed with new, clean, direction. Doesn't sound like a guy who embraces change


    I can't take raceradio seriously.

    I ceebs to filter out the 90% of bull he says.
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  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Rick, are you typing with boxing gloves on?
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,821
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Rick, are you typing with boxing gloves on?

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ceebs


    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... fid=284234



    ;)
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    via @raceradio

    Problem w/ Leinders is he left Rabo in anger because he disagreed with new, clean, direction. Doesn't sound like a guy who embraces change


    I can't take raceradio seriously.

    I ceebs to filter out the 90% of bull he says.

    He's amazingly accurate. Knew Bruyneel was nabbed at the airport before anyone else, knew the USADA thing was coming.

    He's pretty well connected inside cycling.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Jesus, did I stray onto a 13 years olds Facebook page.

    So what does this mean (and not the TBH bit, smart @rse)?
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Tl;dr for most of his posts TBH.
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,821
    iainf72 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    via @raceradio

    Problem w/ Leinders is he left Rabo in anger because he disagreed with new, clean, direction. Doesn't sound like a guy who embraces change


    I can't take raceradio seriously.

    I ceebs to filter out the 90% of bull he says.

    He's amazingly accurate. Knew Bruyneel was nabbed at the airport before anyone else, knew the USADA thing was coming.

    He's pretty well connected inside cycling.

    A lot of stuff he says never happens though.

    It's not quite a broken clock but pfft.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,821
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Jesus, did I stray onto a 13 years olds Facebook page.

    So what does this mean (and not the TBH bit, smart @rse)?
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Tl;dr for most of his posts TBH.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tl%3Bdr
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  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Jesus, did I stray onto a 13 years olds Facebook page.

    So what does this mean (and not the TBH bit, smart @rse)?
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Tl;dr for most of his posts TBH.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tl%3Bdr

    Rick, you are wasted here. You should be off commenting on youtube videos.

    :wink:
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,821
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Jesus, did I stray onto a 13 years olds Facebook page.

    So what does this mean (and not the TBH bit, smart @rse)?
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Tl;dr for most of his posts TBH.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tl%3Bdr

    Rick, you are wasted here. You should be off commenting on youtube videos.

    :wink:

    [american teenager voice with upward inflection at end of every sentence] Youtube comments are like soo totally a popularity contest. Like, you can like or unlike comments. That's so corporate and bad for the environment and poor people. I mean, what about people who are just ugly? [/american teenager voice with upward inflection at end of every sentence]]
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 16,955
    they have to be clean

    if sky doped it will come out and I dont think cycling or the tour will survive yet another false dawn scandal
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    Paul Kimmage made some fairly persuasive argument recently that Wiggins completely rejects him now. The above article comes scarily close to sugggesting wiggo went native a bit. The science in sport guys have made some very good argument that Brad is clean or at least is quite slow compared to Lance and Contador. Wonder what Wiggo would have done in 1993 if he were 30 and could see he could win tdf? Who really won the 2009 TDF? Many questions. Also, Chris Boardman anyone? No congrats from Chris either!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKBacb2V ... ata_player
  • rebs
    rebs Posts: 891
    Dave_1 wrote:
    Also, Chris Boardman anyone? No congrats from Chris either!

    are you trying to make something out of 1 peron not tweeting about another person?:P
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    mididoctors wrote:
    they have to be clean

    if sky doped it will come out and I dont think cycling or the tour will survive yet another false dawn scandal

    You could say the same thing about US Postal after Festina scandal.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 16,955
    rebs wrote:
    Dave_1 wrote:
    Also, Chris Boardman anyone? No congrats from Chris either!

    are you trying to make something out of 1 peron not tweeting about another person?:P

    chris is totally behind brad
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 16,955
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    mididoctors wrote:
    they have to be clean

    if sky doped it will come out and I dont think cycling or the tour will survive yet another false dawn scandal

    You could say the same thing about US Postal after Festina scandal.


    there has only been one false dawn....
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • andrewjoseph
    andrewjoseph Posts: 2,165
    Kimmage is only asking for what Sky promised: transparency and answers. He is not accusing anyone at Sky, just stating how things look. All sky have to do is clarify things.

    I think the team is clean, but there are some niggling questions.
    --
    Burls Ti Tourer for Tarmac, Saracen aluminium full suss for trails
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    mididoctors wrote:
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    mididoctors wrote:
    they have to be clean

    if sky doped it will come out and I dont think cycling or the tour will survive yet another false dawn scandal

    You could say the same thing about US Postal after Festina scandal.


    there has only been one false dawn....

    Wasn't the Tour in 1968 called the Tour de Health, after Tom Simpson death the previous year? I think there have been quite a few false dawns.
  • esspeebee
    esspeebee Posts: 174
    andrewjoseph wrote:
    Kimmage is only asking for what Sky promised: transparency and answers. He is not accusing anyone at Sky, just stating how things look. All sky have to do is clarify things.
    He's demanding answers that have already been provided, which is usually the mark of someone who's just desperate for a story. Sky have already clarified why they changed that particular policy, of not hiring doctors that had worked in cycling before. It turns out that looking after athletes performing at the limit of their endurance for three weeks at a time in extreme heat is quite a specialised field, and it helps to have someone with actual experience of doing that.
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    "until the rest day of the 2012 Tour when Brailsford admitted to The Times that Leinders had been employed by the team since 2010."

    He didn't "admit" to anything. It was known long before then that Leinders was employed by them.

    Very dishonest writing.

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