New indoor trainer advice needed please.
twonks
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A bit of a dilema that I may face come bonus time in January.
I'm a mtb'er at heart (Don't shoot please) but find myself road riding a fair bit on an old rigid mtb with slicks.
Was all set to splash out and buy a new road bike specific to the job, but the last one I had (Giant TCR C2) didn't really get used once the novelty had wore off.
My main aim for the road riding is simply to get fit (lose weight) and to enjoy 30 mile or so rides at a leisurely to quick pace. Nothing serious and no clubs etc.
This is fine in the English summer but in winter time I don't want to be road riding in the dark and some nights it is just a pain in the backside getting the mtb out and having to clean it and myself following every ride.
So, I am now thinking of a nice indoor trainer instead, which will be used all year round.
I fancy one that has variable programmes and maybe even a screen to watch (Like the Tacx things).
However, I have an older Tacx flow turbo and that was immensly boring to use so again is sat in a corner gathering dust.
Put simply, I need to have something interesting to keep me going through an hour or so on a trainer. I think the ones that replicate a race with differing inclines and terrains etc is a good idea, or even something like a Wattbike where I could immerse myself in correct form and get the most out of training with differing routines etc.
So, the big question is what trainer would people reccomend for up to say £1500. (Would stretch to the Wattbike if it was deemed the best option)
I know I could buy a good turbo to replace mine for £250 and get a nice road bike as well, but that isn't the question
Any thoughts and opinions / experience would be most welcome.
I'm a mtb'er at heart (Don't shoot please) but find myself road riding a fair bit on an old rigid mtb with slicks.
Was all set to splash out and buy a new road bike specific to the job, but the last one I had (Giant TCR C2) didn't really get used once the novelty had wore off.
My main aim for the road riding is simply to get fit (lose weight) and to enjoy 30 mile or so rides at a leisurely to quick pace. Nothing serious and no clubs etc.
This is fine in the English summer but in winter time I don't want to be road riding in the dark and some nights it is just a pain in the backside getting the mtb out and having to clean it and myself following every ride.
So, I am now thinking of a nice indoor trainer instead, which will be used all year round.
I fancy one that has variable programmes and maybe even a screen to watch (Like the Tacx things).
However, I have an older Tacx flow turbo and that was immensly boring to use so again is sat in a corner gathering dust.
Put simply, I need to have something interesting to keep me going through an hour or so on a trainer. I think the ones that replicate a race with differing inclines and terrains etc is a good idea, or even something like a Wattbike where I could immerse myself in correct form and get the most out of training with differing routines etc.
So, the big question is what trainer would people reccomend for up to say £1500. (Would stretch to the Wattbike if it was deemed the best option)
I know I could buy a good turbo to replace mine for £250 and get a nice road bike as well, but that isn't the question
Any thoughts and opinions / experience would be most welcome.
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You raise an interesting and valid point there !
I do love all things cycling, but do seem to get bored of road riding as a hobby. It is more of a means to an end to getting fit. Like all things in life, I'd expect that if I was good at it and could hold a nice average speed I'd enjoy it more.
Thinking about it, the main reason I want a trainer with varied features and analytical stuff is probably more to do with preventing boredom than it is to actually use the features properly.
Hmm, shall have to have a think.
And unfit and needs to lose weight :?:
Wattbike is nice kit but not programmable. Having the pre-programmed sessions like erg vids means longer indoor sessions are much more bearable.
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Iv'e already got rollers which are ok but there's just no resistance in them so I struggle to get a really good productive session, and I have a magnetic turbo but when I get it up to speed it just makes a hell of a racket through the house even with the specific tyre, so I end up cranking the resistance up high and use low gears to stimulate hill training, that's ok but I find takes a lot of motivation to get started training indoors. High speed spinning would just be deafening on it.
A customer review on Wiggle for the Tacx Genius suggests its very quiet compared to a normal trainer and so it maybe well worth the investment.
10$ a month for trainer road. A few quid for sufferfest vids which sync in TR. Why would anyone feel the need to spend £1000+
Amen to that.....
I like it............IWBMATTKYT.
Aware me about Training Road. If I have that sensor and the USB ANT+ stick can it determine my speed as well as cadence on a fluid trainer? And if so can you explain how please?
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You pair the devices in TR itself (which can include HRM's/powermeters/powertap hubs) and the software displays the values.You can also FTP test with virtualpower and update your profile so subsequent rides scale to it.
You can also set % of your FTP you wish to ride at.
USB Stick
Sensor
http://youtu.be/rqUxMrqnTE0
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Bidding on a GSC10 unit on an auction site currently lol. Seems like a perfect piece of software to spin away winter months.
Cycleops jet fluid pro turbo
Gsc10 cadence / speed monitor
Ant+ HR monitor
Trainer road on laptop
Ant + usb stick (from garmin forerunner fr60)
Most sufferfest vids
Ive only just started using trainer road, but it been great so far and def makes me push harder when doing the 'fest vids - because it sets you a target based on power (actual if you have a power meter or virtual if you dont). Early days but liking it so far.
You do need to be careful that your set up is consistent - tyre pressure, pressure of turbo against wheel etc.
How does Trainer Road synch with your speed/virtual power/sufferfest download?
I would be using Xperia phone for ant+ data.
This really sounds good but a little confusing.
cheers
Or alternatively you could sell all your bikes and start going to Zumba classes.
You can drag and drop SF videos into TR just like moving any other file around. Then the sensors picking up speed/cadence start and stop the video. You then just follow the SF instructions.
Told you I was confused... so
I need the usb ant+ stick for the laptop? and then good to go after getting the Trainer Road subscription.. I assume
Its just that the xperia supports ant+
It'd be kinda cool if TR had a smartphone app, then you wouldn't need to buy the USB dongle. I wonder are they considering that? Only drawback is that the vids wouldn't be very big, but equally, you wouldn't need a laptop to be able to use it.
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Nate from http://www.TrainerRoad.com here. Yes, we want to do an iOS/Android app this winter. The problem is that only that xperia phone supports ANT+ out of the box, so you'd need to buy a wahoo ant+ dongle on an iPhone device. That's until more cycling devices support BlueTooth Smart.
For a question about what hardware is required, here's our page that shows minimum requirements: http://support.trainerroad.com/entries/ ... rainerroad
If you guys have any questions/comments let me know!
-Nate
Now that's customer service! Product looks good guys.
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Subscription sorted... now all I need to do is connect up and do that 20 minute FTP test, oh joyessness
The Android app will be more than useful when it arrives.
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I've just invested a massive £80 in a used road bike and will use this until January time when hopefully a bonus wil allow me to buy the road bike I want instead of a new trainer (of any sort)
This second hand bike has a TACX qr as a rear skewer so that has made my mind up to get the trainer set up and use it and a combination of training software.
As for the comments about not getting out in the rain and dark, I do but not on a road bike.
Mud, wet and the cold is not an issue at all, but tbh I just don't fancy the idea of being on the road in such conditions. :roll:
Maybe this will change as I get more into road riding, but I can plan ahead and use the trainer I have (and Garmin) with minimal financial outlay.