Tour de France Stage 7 *spoiler*
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Some people saying it wasn't very interesting ? I think you might be watching the wrong sport , tennis or cricket might suit you better
Got to agree that Froome looks incredibly strong , wonder how long before he gets to lead a teamThe UCI are Clowns and Fools0 -
tremayne wrote:Dave_1 wrote:Froome was obvious last Autumn. He will win the TDF
Nope, I don't think he will. Wiggins will win the Tour and realistically, that's the way it's gotta be. Yes, Froome got the better of wiggo in the vuelta but there were reasons for that. If no further time trials, you might just be right. But with what's left to come, along with team orders etc, it's gomna be big bad brad for yellow,
I can't see Froome bringing back the 1.30 gap atmYou live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
tremayne wrote:Dave_1 wrote:Froome was obvious last Autumn. He will win the TDF
Nope, I don't think he will. Wiggins will win the Tour and realistically, that's the way it's gotta be. Yes, Froome got the better of wiggo in the vuelta but there were reasons for that. If no further time trials, you might just be right. But with what's left to come, along with team orders etc, it's gomna be big bad brad for yellow,
I know what I am talking about and you should listen to me. Froome will out TT Brad on Monday and win TDF0 -
jim453 wrote:I think Wiggo was under pressure there but he weathered the storm. If he can keep that up it's his to lose. Froome though was spectacular, like in the Vuelta, unbelievable to be drilling it on the front for his team leader and still being able to do that.
Wiggo needs to be asking him why he's saving so much for the line when there's a 'job of work' to be done.
Good last point - in post match interview Bradley admitted that he'd been yelling at Froome not to go quite so hard as they got near the top, he said he wanted to effectively to save some legs for the vicious last ramp.0 -
Dave_1 wrote:tremayne wrote:Dave_1 wrote:Froome was obvious last Autumn. He will win the TDF
Nope, I don't think he will. Wiggins will win the Tour and realistically, that's the way it's gotta be. Yes, Froome got the better of wiggo in the vuelta but there were reasons for that. If no further time trials, you might just be right. But with what's left to come, along with team orders etc, it's gomna be big bad brad for yellow,
I know what I am talking about and you should listen to me. Froome will out TT Brad on Monday and win TDF
Ok! But you'll be hearing from me if he doesn't!! I'll still be happy. I just want British Cycling to win this thing. Froome, Wiggins. Let's just get it done!0 -
Froome will take 22 minutes out of Wiggins and Evans in mondays TT, then falter in the mountains and lose half an hour, but bridge the gap in the final TT to win by 2 seconds...
^ That... is a thing that will not happen.0 -
Tom BB wrote:Dan Martin was over a minute and a half down.....
My guess is you won't see Garmin at the front tomorrow thinking they have a potential stage winner.0 -
People are upset at the lack of attacks that happened. didnt anyone see Wiggins attack yesterday?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzHmhgjL2pc
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Squaggles wrote:Some people saying it wasn't very interesting ? I think you might be watching the wrong sport , tennis or cricket might suit you better
Got to agree that Froome looks incredibly strong , wonder how long before he gets to lead a team
It wasn't very interesting. It was a very good performance and impressive, but in terms of racing it wasn't exciting. It brought back memories of the 2005 Tour stage to Courchevel in a way.
The race is still quite tight. After Monday that may no longer be true.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Not without some kind of career-changing treachery. He's no Aitor González though.Jez mon wrote:tremayne wrote:Dave_1 wrote:Froome was obvious last Autumn. He will win the TDF
Nope, I don't think he will. Wiggins will win the Tour and realistically, that's the way it's gotta be. Yes, Froome got the better of wiggo in the vuelta but there were reasons for that. If no further time trials, you might just be right. But with what's left to come, along with team orders etc, it's gomna be big bad brad for yellow,
I can't see Froome bringing back the 1.30 gap atm0 -
iainf72 wrote:Squaggles wrote:Some people saying it wasn't very interesting ? I think you might be watching the wrong sport , tennis or cricket might suit you better
Got to agree that Froome looks incredibly strong , wonder how long before he gets to lead a team
It wasn't very interesting. It was a very good performance and impressive, but in terms of racing it wasn't exciting. It brought back memories of the 2005 Tour stage to Courchevel in a way.
The race is still quite tight. After Monday that may no longer be true.
It was exciting for Sky fans. Otherwise, it was difficult to get excited.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
Could have happened like that in the early decades of the Tour though.nweststeyn wrote:Froome will take 22 minutes out of Wiggins and Evans in mondays TT, then falter in the mountains and lose half an hour, but bridge the gap in the final TT to win by 2 seconds...
^ That... is a thing that will not happen.0 -
Froome couldn't take the power stages - as other have said the time trials etc. He needs a little more power to be an all rounder.
And, he made a relatively short climb look easy. Try several... long ones.0 -
cristoff wrote:iainf72 wrote:Duff as in no attacks. It was just winding the pace up - A fine tactic but not that interesting to watch.
Did he say not interesting to watch?????
:oops: :oops: wowzers!
That is straight out silly -- watching the big guns go pop is not duff. Sky destroyed a number of GC contenders today. Sanchez, Menchov, Martin, Levi, Klodi, Valverde, etc. -- pretenders, who are not contenders.0 -
Indurain destroyed all the contenders. It didn't make him interesting to watch.0
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Klodi tweets...One thing,i dont know what a bullshit they write in the RSNT press realese,but i had good legs today, only the last 4k i was somehow blocked.
Hey Klodi...you had crappy legs and by the way only the last 4k count. Team Sky crushed you...and Frank. Horner must of been kicking himself being ordered to stay with you on the climb.0 -
iainf72 wrote:Squaggles wrote:Some people saying it wasn't very interesting ? I think you might be watching the wrong sport , tennis or cricket might suit you better
Got to agree that Froome looks incredibly strong , wonder how long before he gets to lead a team
It wasn't very interesting. It was a very good performance and impressive, but in terms of racing it wasn't exciting. It brought back memories of the 2005 Tour stage to Courchevel in a way.
The race is still quite tight. After Monday that may no longer be true.
Disagree with 'it wasn't very interesting'.
Thought it was a great battle of attrition.Mens agitat molem0 -
cristoff wrote:iainf72 wrote:Duff as in no attacks. It was just winding the pace up - A fine tactic but not that interesting to watch.
Did he say not interesting to watch?????
:oops: :oops: wowzers!
Keep up. When Liquigas do it (badly) at the Giro its a race of attrition. When Sky do it its dull.
Green jersey was chiptastic but now its all summerofsagan.0 -
RoadPainter wrote:Just below 2nd hairpin having lunch, will be strolling past greasedscotsman soon (I have Union flag as cape). Glad to hear there's some Schatje-ing going on!
Just got a maillot a poids, life is good.
The climb is v steep, the ramp about 500-600m from start of it is really evil.
Could be v good racing, if enough riders feeling OK
Oops, looks like I missed you! I moved up towards the 3km banner as there were some French kids trying to jump on my bike! Very impressed with the park n' ride they had there, did you use it? How was it?0 -
So Brad in yellow after stage 7. If he holds on tomorrow, and then extends lead in the TT (which he will need to look to do) it wil be one of the longest Yellow defences for a few years (if he defends until Paris). So is Sky stronger than USPS? Do they have the 'guns' for a 2 week defence? Will they let a break go to relinquish the Jersey for a few days?Rich0
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I feel duty bound to point out at this (early) stage that today was not the hardest stage of the weekend or of the next week or indeed the tour. The final climb while hard was not an alpine or pyranean stage. Sky did what they had to do - no doubt what they'd planned to do (with extra stage winning and KOM gathering thrown in) and it worked. This was no USPS for 3 solid weeks on every stage, it was 4 blokes for 4 km.
Just as interesting as the non-debate about how hard Wiggin's found that and what Froome's victory means for the Sky management i.e. a lot more interesting, is what effect the tactic had on the rest of the bunch over such a small distance.
It is setting things up nicely for tomorrow with the effect of today's efforts to be seen, lots of former GC candidates with time to make up and what Nibali and Evans will try and where (if) to take any time out of Wiggins and dent his and Sky's confidence. And then the test on Monday to see who really has got the legs after a nervous first week and two tough middle mountain stages. Should be interesting to see the time gaps on Monday night. I'm interested in how much that took out of Cancellara too.
Nobody cares what I think, but this is an internet forum so here you are: by Monday night Wiggins and Evans to be about 30 seconds to a minute further apart (in either direction) than today and to put time into everyone except for Froome and Menchov (who is going to ghost around the route to Paris and 4th place).
I also think that the yellow jersey is just a thing that Sky have accumulated through executing their plan and while important and albeit it comes with some extra responsibility, I don't think it will change much for them at this stage. The real issue is what the GC looks like on Monday night and if Wiggin's still has yellow what the others do to take it back. Basically it's all far too early to get worked up about - it is interesting and all will be revealed.
I've got a boil in the bag hat to eat should I be wrong. Which I am. By the minute. Alright by the second. Okay, you got me every eye blink.0 -
ukpostals FTW
they have to defend till the end or let a very contrived break go.0 -
iainf72 wrote:Squaggles wrote:Some people saying it wasn't very interesting ? I think you might be watching the wrong sport , tennis or cricket might suit you better
Got to agree that Froome looks incredibly strong , wonder how long before he gets to lead a team
It wasn't very interesting. It was a very good performance and impressive, but in terms of racing it wasn't exciting. It brought back memories of the 2005 Tour stage to Courchevel in a way.
The race is still quite tight. After Monday that may no longer be true.
I found it very interesting and quite exciting , in fact I might go as far as to say I really enjoyed itThe UCI are Clowns and Fools0 -
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cycling5280 wrote:and Frank. Horner must have been kicking himself being ordered to stay with you on the climb.
Indeed, Horner seems to have kicked himself so hard that he managed to finish a whole minute and ten seconds behind FrankYou live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
Difficult to say if they are making that look easier than I thought or harder than I thought Scotsman.0
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Noone seems to be taking into account that one bit of bad luck like a chain drop in a TT and everything changes too. Only way to see what happens is to watch it. Nothing too surprising today, just a very solid Sky and Froome shining on the steep stuff (abeit short) compared to Wiggins, like we saw on the Angliru.
Some seem to think its Awesome, but that's just one of those new American-style overused words nowadays. I don't think we'll be watching or talking about that stage for years, but great result for the Brits today.0 -
As impressive as the Sky duo (and Evans) were, has to be said that most of the pre-Tour favourites were pretty atrocious. Most of them beaten by the likes of Taaramae, Zubeldia, Roche, Monfot, Brajkovic. Good climbers all, but not who you' d expect to be beating Samuel Sanchez on that finish.0
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Yep me too. It was fascinating to see who would be dropped next. As someone else has said up thread, Sky adopting the Liquigas Giro tactics, the difference being their GC contender was strong enough to warrant it.Squaggles wrote:I found it very interesting and quite exciting , in fact I might go as far as to say I really enjoyed it
Other random thoughts...
Given the relatively high finishing positions of Zubeldia, Monfort and Roche, I'm not sure that Sky were quite as brilliant as they looked, rather many of the climbers were not at their best for one reason or another. ***
That said, it's looking good for Sky but the race is not over yet by any stretch of the imagination. Hopefully the other teams will try some inventive tactics to combat the Sky train.
*** Beaten by Turfle0
