first bike <£600 budget

charliedontsurf

hello all ive decided i want a bike looking for a hardtail less than £600 if possible.

looked at hoodoo and rockrider 8.1 mainly but the hoodoo spec seems a bit sucky in comparison to the rockrider
and they are both fairly unatractive.

i had considered trying to build a bike but maybe its a little out of rech for my first bike.

ive also seen the canyon yellowstone 4.0 , virtus zircon 0.1 (crc have one cheap) also a cube aim disc and analog disc

i love the cubes looks.

whats my best path ? buy a hoodoo and upgrade everything over time as its the cheapest, buy the rockrider and swap out the frame fairly soon or something else

Help me bikeradar you are my only hope !

cheers

chez_m356

you cant get a better spec for the money than the 8.1, you could always wait a while,supposed to be a new colour scheme out sometime soon http://btwin.com/fr/vtt-cross-country/9127-81-2012.html, or if you could up your budget slightly, the boardman comp is worth a look

victoriac

If you like the Cubes, have you had a look at the Analog? Very nice to ride and looks great!

jaymodunn

I have bought a saracen zen 2 for your budget.

charliedontsurf

that 2012 8.1 looks much better than this years!

Good Old Bakes

charliedontsurf wrote:

hello all ive decided i want a bike looking for a hardtail less than £600 if possible.

looked at hoodoo and rockrider 8.1 mainly but the hoodoo spec seems a bit sucky in comparison to the rockrider
and they are both fairly unatractive.

Yeah, don't get a Rockrider mate. They're as ugly as sin and you'll be a laughing stock. I have one and it's humiliating having to burn past people on name bikes and out manoeuvre them to avoid folk seeing what I'm riding. That's why they're so highly specced you know - so that you're able to pull stunts like that to avoid the humiliation. I really, really, really wished I'd looked at something in silver and blue instead......

chez_m356

Good Old Bakes wrote:

charliedontsurf wrote:

hello all ive decided i want a bike looking for a hardtail less than £600 if possible.

looked at hoodoo and rockrider 8.1 mainly but the hoodoo spec seems a bit sucky in comparison to the rockrider
and they are both fairly unatractive.

Yeah, don't get a Rockrider mate. They're as ugly as sin and you'll be a laughing stock. I have one and it's humiliating having to burn past people on name bikes and out manoeuvre them to avoid folk seeing what I'm riding. That's why they're so highly specced you know - so that you're able to pull stunts like that to avoid the humiliation. I really, really, really wished I'd looked at something in silver and blue instead......

ever heard of paint ?

Good Old Bakes

chez_m356 wrote:

Good Old Bakes wrote:

charliedontsurf wrote:

hello all ive decided i want a bike looking for a hardtail less than £600 if possible.

looked at hoodoo and rockrider 8.1 mainly but the hoodoo spec seems a bit sucky in comparison to the rockrider
and they are both fairly unatractive.

Yeah, don't get a Rockrider mate. They're as ugly as sin and you'll be a laughing stock. I have one and it's humiliating having to burn past people on name bikes and out manoeuvre them to avoid folk seeing what I'm riding. That's why they're so highly specced you know - so that you're able to pull stunts like that to avoid the humiliation. I really, really, really wished I'd looked at something in silver and blue instead......

ever heard of paint ?

Ever heard of sarcasm...?

charliedontsurf

cheers for the help guys just hope the new ones out soon dont want to have to wait too long !

Good Old Bakes

charliedontsurf wrote:

cheers for the help guys just hope the new ones out soon dont want to have to wait too long !

In all seriousness mate, I love my Rockrider. Granted, its a bit garish but its an absolute quality ride and you can't see the livery when you're riding it and it's caked in mud.

charliedontsurf

oh i know but the newer one just looks that bit nicer to me

Anonymous

I would go down the 2nd hand route tbh prob get a lot better spec for your dollar.

The Rookie

charliedontsurf wrote:

virtus zircon 0.1 (crc have one cheap)

Only CRC will have a vitus as it's their in house brand!

chez_m356

Good Old Bakes wrote:

chez_m356 wrote:

Good Old Bakes wrote:

Yeah, don't get a Rockrider mate. They're as ugly as sin and you'll be a laughing stock. I have one and it's humiliating having to burn past people on name bikes and out manoeuvre them to avoid folk seeing what I'm riding. That's why they're so highly specced you know - so that you're able to pull stunts like that to avoid the humiliation. I really, really, really wished I'd looked at something in silver and blue instead......

ever heard of paint ?

Ever heard of sarcasm...?

yes, you just responded to it

OhAndFour

victoriac wrote:

If you like the Cubes, have you had a look at the Analog? Very nice to ride and looks great!

Cube Analog Disc comes in at £589. Really nice bike.

http://www.cube.eu/en/hard/comp/analog-disc-blackwhite/

drtobiasfunke

chez_m356 wrote:

you cant get a better spec for the money than the 8.1, you could always wait a while,supposed to be a new colour scheme out sometime soon http://btwin.com/fr/vtt-cross-country/9127-81-2012.html, or if you could up your budget slightly, the boardman comp is worth a look

Finally they got rid of that terrible paint job and rims.
Bike just got 100% better :P

felix.london

raceface gt wrote:

I would go down the 2nd hand route tbh prob get a lot better spec for your dollar.

Yep, me too. I'm a big advocate of buying used. When you can get something either twice as good (spec wise) for the same money or the same spec for half the price I find it hard to resist...but I understand it's not for everyone.

Also - just seems crazy to buy something new that you're basically gonna throw down mountains, over jumps & drops (badly in my case), through streams and mud and generally give as much abuse as possible. Just wouldn't feel right doing that with something new and shiny.

Clothes & electronics = new. Bikes & cars = used...but maybe that's just me, hey???

Good Old Bakes

chez_m356 wrote:

Good Old Bakes wrote:

chez_m356 wrote:

Good Old Bakes wrote:

Yeah, don't get a Rockrider mate. They're as ugly as sin and you'll be a laughing stock. I have one and it's humiliating having to burn past people on name bikes and out manoeuvre them to avoid folk seeing what I'm riding. That's why they're so highly specced you know - so that you're able to pull stunts like that to avoid the humiliation. I really, really, really wished I'd looked at something in silver and blue instead......

ever heard of paint ?

Ever heard of sarcasm...?

yes, you just responded to it

charliedontsurf

whats the 8.2 like ? not sure what year this one is but its brief spec is listed as
061 t4/t6 frame
Fizi:k saddle
Rock rider alu 2014 seat post
Rock rider comp handlebars and stem
Rock show reba front suspension
Shimano deore lx brakes and gear levers
Shimano deore lx brakes on discs
Mavic 317 rims with panaracer firexcpro tyres
Shimano deore xt rear mech
Shimano deore lx front mech
Truativ firex chain set

supersonic

Depends what the price is!

Cube Analog is pretty poor for the money really, bargain basement fork, heavy kit.

charliedontsurf

well its on an auction site so i dont really know till its finished its around £100 with 4 days left

supersonic

The spec is decent enough, if in good condition about £350 - £400 there. But remember you have no warranty or anything.

chez_m356

charliedontsurf wrote:

well its on an auction site so i dont really know till its finished its around £100 with 4 days left

i've seen the on you mean, its the 2007 model, the same as this

charliedontsurf

yep thats the one except it now has red tyres

the fork seems better than the current 8.1

im just unsure about going second hand

charliedontsurf

how bout this ? as far as i can tell the bits are a bit old now and it may be a bit heavy
Commencal Ramones 3
Frame: : Ramones LT hardtail frame
Rear Shock: : N/A
Fork: : Suntour Duro DJ D 130mm
Headset: : Neco 1"1/8 ball retainer
Shifters: : Shimano Deore
Rear derailleur: : Shimano Deore
Front derailleur: : Shimano Deore
Chainset: : Truvativ Blaze 2.0 24/36 w/rockguard
Bottom Bracket: : Truvativ Powerspline
Chain: : KMC 9s
Cassette: : Sram PG 950 9s 11-34
Rims: : Jalco double wall for Commencal
Hubs: : Commencal disc brakes
Spokes: : Stainless 64p 3x lacing black
Tyres: : Geax Sturdy 26x2,25/Saguaro 26x2.2
Brakes: : Tektro Auriga Comp 185/185
Brake levers: : Tektro Auriga Comp 185/185
Handlebars: : New Commencal 1,5" 6061 oversize 710mm
Grips: : Commencal Kraton black
Stem: : New Com FR
Saddle: : NEW SDG Bel Air special Ramones
Seatpost: : New Commencal no offset

£450

chez_m356

dont know much about that more dirt/jump i think, there's a video of the bike in action here http://www.commencal-store.co.uk/PBSCPr ... ID=9888960 though in the video, for some reason it seems to have rockshox revs "i think"? instead of the suntour folks advertised, maybe thats saying something ?

chez_m356

regarding the 8.2, in the ad the guy does say recently serviced at decathlon, if he's got proof etc etc could be a good deal at the right price, looks like its the 2007 version of the current 8XC

hainman

u should get the 8.1 for about 400 soon if the new model is coming in.i bought the 9.1 last year at this time for 600 then the new model price went up to 750 so keep yer eyes peeled on the website or phone them,i phoned and a guy said i have your size,i asked how much and he said 600 so went to shop but the price was still 700 so i said i had spoke on the phone to sales guy and he said it was going for 600 2minutes later he went away to check and came back to say it was infact down to 600....deal!!!

charliedontsurf

cool cheers might give them a ring

charliedontsurf

seen some nice forks but they say they are 15mm QR i take it i wouldnt be able to use them without changing the hub/wheels ? and would a 230mm tube length be ok ?

cooldad

Yes and maybe.