Wiggins' Heroes Quiz
Cleat Eastwood
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In the paper this morn in the pre tour excitement a list of Wiggos heroes; can you name some - there are 9. I'll post the full list later - no google cheating.
The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.
momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.
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Boardman?0
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Merckx
Joop Zoetmelk (? spelling ?)
Robert Millar
Tony Doyle
Chris Boardman and or Graham Obree
Greg LeMond
(ok I haven't got a clue who his heroes are and might have listed some of mine instead)0 -
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RichN95 wrote:He'll probably say Armstrong just to wind people up.
I'd enjoy that, just to see certain people on twitter spontaneously combust in an explosion of righteous indignation."I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)0 -
so far so good.
1. Tom Simpson
2. Miguel Induraun
3. Lance
4. #belgian
5. #belgian
6. Merckx
7. #Italian
8. #English
9.# Certaintly OIrish.The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
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Are they all cycling heroes?
If not then surely some sort of mod influence - Weller?0 -
Sean Kelly
Johan Museeuw0 -
And Sean Yates?0
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1. Tom Simpson
2. Miguel Induraun
3. Lance
4. #belgian
5. #belgian
6. Merckx
7. #Italian
8. Sean Yates
9. Sean Kelly.
2 belgians and an italian left.The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
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1. Tom Simpson
2. Miguel Induraun
3. Lance
4. DeVlaeminck
5. Maertens
6. Merckx
7. #Italian
8. Sean Yates
9. Sean Kelly.
an italian left....and you're right it is either coppi or moser.....but which one?The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
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MoserCleat Eastwood wrote:and you're right it is either coppi or moser.....but which one?Twitter: @RichN950 -
RichN95 wrote:
MoserCleat Eastwood wrote:and you're right it is either coppi or moser.....but which one?
You sir are....correct. well played.
The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
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On the other hand, Armstrong might really be a long-standing hero of his. He certainly didn't complain about it when Armstrong kept him off the TDF podium back in 2009, despite Armstrong's dodgy blood values in that race and all the evidence that had already come to light regarding Armstrong's doping history.inkyfingers wrote:RichN95 wrote:He'll probably say Armstrong just to wind people up.
I'd enjoy that, just to see certain people on twitter spontaneously combust in an explosion of righteous indignation."I love him," Wiggins said. "I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense. Even his strongest critics have benefitted from him. I don't think this sport will ever realise what he's brought it or how big he's made it.
"Cycling was in the dark ages before he came along, in many ways. You only have to look at the support along the roads, compared to what it was 20 years ago. The majority of that is because of Lance Armstrong. Obviously he has his enemies and people among the fans who don't like him, but they've all benefitted from him and his existence on the Tour."
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Cleat Eastwood wrote:1. Tom Simpson
2. Miguel Induraun
3. Lance
4. DeVlaeminck
5. Maertens
6. Merckx
7. Moser
8. Sean Yates
9. Sean Kelly.
Wiggins certainly seems to have a lot of heavy-duty dopers in his 'heroes' list. And to think that the 'old' Wiggins used to say things like:I think the older generation - when they came into the sport it was already rife in the Tour de France and they grew up with it - it was normality to them - they were in the late 90's taking drugs - now the sport's cleaning it's act up it's difficult for them to ever imagine trying to win having done what they've done in the past... These guys are looked upon as heroes to some young guys - but for me they're not the heroes of the Tour de France - they never were for me. I spent a lot of time in the group finishing an hour down most days and that's where the heroes are for me. Guys like Geriant Thomas, 21 years old - for the last two weeks I've watched him drag himself through the Alps and the Pyrenees on nothing but bread and water - for me - they are the real heroes of the Tour de France - not the guys on the million Euro contracts who are being done for blood transfusions and things like that.
Bradley Wiggins - Press Conference Transcript of the key questions at the press conference held by Bradley Wiggins on 27 July 2007 at Manchester Velodrome, following his return to the UK from the Tour de France.0 -
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Cleat Eastwood wrote:In the paper this morn in the pre tour excitement a list of Wiggos heroes; can you name some - there are 9. I'll post the full list later - no google cheating.
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If it is a 'wind up' it is getting to be a rather old joke, given that Wiggins has been praising Armstrong ever since he stopped being the 'old' Wiggins and became a serious TDF contender.greasedscotsman wrote:
Looks like you were right!RichN95 wrote:He'll probably say Armstrong just to wind people up.
It is rather amusing that every time Wiggins gives praise to the likes of Armstrong, or explains his transformation by saying something that is obviously false, such as 'losing 1kg will save you a minute on a 30 minute climb, it is dismissed as being a 'joke', or a 'wind up', or is put down to a lack of intelligence. Conversely, anything he says that his fans want to believe, such as 'I am clean' is taken as being the gospel truth spoken by an intelligent man. If Wiggins really is a 'wind-up merchant' and a 'piss-taker' it just might be that these are the true occasions when he is taking the mick!0 -
I'm a huge Wiggins fan but I have to say that I'm massively disappointed by the list of dopers on his hall of fame.
A little ominous I would say. Or is it actually pretty tough work to fund successful ex cyclists with peachy clean records?0 -
BikingBernie wrote:
If it is a 'wind up' it is getting to be a rather old joke, given that Wiggins has been praising Armstrong ever since he stopped being the 'old' Wiggins and became a serious TDF contender.greasedscotsman wrote:
Looks like you were right!RichN95 wrote:He'll probably say Armstrong just to wind people up.
It is rather amusing that every time Wiggins gives praise to the likes of Armstrong, or explains his transformation by saying something that is obviously false, such as 'losing 1kg will save you a minute on a 30 minute climb, it is dismissed as being a 'joke', or a 'wind up', or is put down to a lack of intelligence. Conversely, anything he says that his fans want to believe, such as 'I am clean' is taken as being the gospel truth spoken by an intelligent man. If Wiggins really is a 'wind-up merchant' and a 'piss-taker' it just might be that these are the true occasions when he is taking the mick!
No-one cares.
Just because someone mentions a rider who might have doped, doesn't mean you need to go off on one.
We get it. You think anyone who's vaguley dodgey probably doped, and you don't like women's races.
Anything of value you want to add? No?0 -
I genuinely pity anybody who has ever had to sit next to Bernie at a dinner party."I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)0
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Only the obvious observation that, whilst the heroes of the 'old' Wiggins were certainly not 'the guys on the million Euro contracts who are being done for blood transfusions and things like that', the heroes of the 'new' Wiggins are, by and large, a bunch of big-time dopers.Rick Chasey wrote:Anything of value you want to add?
Make of that what you will but, as tremayne has pointed out, this is a huge disappointment for many who are / were a fan of the Wiggins, me included. Not that the 'forum police' on here seem to be prepared to allow anyone question just how Sky and Wiggins have turned themselves into real contenders. I fact attitudes on here with regards Sky seem to be about as one-eyed as they used to be on American forums with regards to Armstrong!0 -
You tread dangerous ground saying things like that on here.tremayne wrote:I'm a huge Wiggins fan but I have to say that I'm massively disappointed by the list of dopers on his hall of fame. A little ominous I would say...
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You certainly seem to, otherwise why reply? :roll:Rick Chasey wrote:BikingBernie wrote:
If it is a 'wind up' it is getting to be a rather old joke, given that Wiggins has been praising Armstrong ever since he stopped being the 'old' Wiggins and became a serious TDF contender.greasedscotsman wrote:
Looks like you were right!RichN95 wrote:He'll probably say Armstrong just to wind people up.
It is rather amusing that every time Wiggins gives praise to the likes of Armstrong, or explains his transformation by saying something that is obviously false, such as 'losing 1kg will save you a minute on a 30 minute climb, it is dismissed as being a 'joke', or a 'wind up', or is put down to a lack of intelligence. Conversely, anything he says that his fans want to believe, such as 'I am clean' is taken as being the gospel truth spoken by an intelligent man. If Wiggins really is a 'wind-up merchant' and a 'piss-taker' it just might be that these are the true occasions when he is taking the mick!
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BikingBernie wrote:Only the obvious observation that, whilst the heroes of the 'old' Wiggins were certainly not 'the guys on the million Euro contracts who are being done for blood transfusions and things like that', the heroes of the 'new' Wiggins are, by and large, a bunch of big-time dopers.
Make of that what you will...
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BikingBernie wrote:
You certainly seem to, otherwise why reply? :roll:Rick Chasey wrote:
No-one cares.
Because I want to let it be known that I'm bored with your constant whining about doping when it's periphery at best.
What you say you've always said before somewhere, because it's always about the same stuff.
Someone mentions Indurain without giving some enormous caveat - you immediately go off on one.
Someone mentions Lance in passing - suddenly you're on about his bloody omerta and his cash and doping.
If it's actually relevant, as in, relvant to the dicussion rather than to your own doping chat agenda, no-one would mind. It rarely is. This being a classic case in point. You're trying to fabricate a doping discussion out of something that just isn't relevant to it.
Fine, Wiggins likes people who have a question mark about them. So what? It's been said, so move on.0 -
lets face it , it is pretty hard to name 10 cycling heros from the past who haven`t doped. hopefully future riders wont have that problem .0
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BikingBernie wrote:Only the obvious observation that, whilst the heroes of the 'old' Wiggins were certainly not 'the guys on the million Euro contracts who are being done for blood transfusions and things like that', the heroes of the 'new' Wiggins are, by and large, a bunch of big-time dopers.
Would that be the "old" Wiggins who was a fan of Tom Simpson, whose drug-related death led to doping controls being introduced into the sport?0
