The men who made us fat
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Anyone catch this last night? Was really interesting especially the reference to the book Pure White and Deadly.
It will come as no surprise to many on here that the target of this was corn syrup and sugar and how lobbying by food associations representing them have made fats the enemy without looking at the problems these easily absorbed energy sources play in obesity.
Frightening was the mannequin woman with the soulless eyes from the american beverage association, flatly denying that there is a link between the sugars used in soft drinks and obesit. Reminded me of the lobbyists who claimed that cigarettes had no link to cancer.
It was also frightening that Fructose was mentioned, which is of course in many of our energy gels. Are we putting ourselves at risk to ride long distances?
It will come as no surprise to many on here that the target of this was corn syrup and sugar and how lobbying by food associations representing them have made fats the enemy without looking at the problems these easily absorbed energy sources play in obesity.
Frightening was the mannequin woman with the soulless eyes from the american beverage association, flatly denying that there is a link between the sugars used in soft drinks and obesit. Reminded me of the lobbyists who claimed that cigarettes had no link to cancer.
It was also frightening that Fructose was mentioned, which is of course in many of our energy gels. Are we putting ourselves at risk to ride long distances?
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+1 eactly !
Thing that got me was how they were blamming the advertising....how else does any business survive without it !?
...sorry hope I didn't spoil it to much ?!
I once read in a book on nutrition ( damned if I can remember what it was called though ) that if sugar (sucrose) was a new food substance discovered today it would be immediatley banned by almost every food and drug administration in the world due to its toxicity to the human body!
Saw this article in relation to it. Presumably covers the same stuff.
People are on average 3 stone heavier since the '60s.
Nail, head.
A lot of food is contaminated by sugars, but a lot isn't. I rarely eat ready-meals and cook nearly all of my food from scratch, including pizzas. I eat chocolate and occasionally crisps.
People ask for advice, understand the advice, then ignore the advice because they don't like ths sound of it. Then blame an organisation for making them fat.
The war on fat in food is odd as well. Natural fat in food is much healthier than artificially added sugar. A lot of the healthy stuff is found in the fat.
I've not watched the programme yet, but the related article in the Grauniad implies that food companies have been feeding people misinformation for years. Just saying "you need more willpower" rather over-simplifies the case that there is (maybe) a massive lobbying industry out there which is making sure that even the governments are giving out bad dietary advice.
Eating too many calories makes you fat, the only role sugar or fat or anything else "special" has in it is that it makes food taste better so you're more likely to eat more.
Ronald MacDonald
Gregg
John Smith
Colonel Sanders
Mr Wimpy
(That woman-Stella Artois)
Dr Pepper
Will (or lack of it) Power.
The above post may contain traces of sarcasm or/and bullsh*t.
Agreed. I went on a bit of a lads holiday the other week. Put on 4lbs thanks to being on a continuous IV Stella drip.
I was gutted. I knew it would drop back off in time as I settle back into the normal lifestyle - healthy meals, not drinking a gallon of lager a day etc. But that wasn't good enough for me, so I cut back a lot in the past week or so and now I'm back down at 70kg give or take 2lbs depending if I've been to the toilet or not!
Will power. Some of us have it; some of us do not.
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Will power or lack of will power may be what determines whether YOU are fat or not.
Doesnt apply to everyone though, theres loads of reasons why more people are over weight these days.
The men who made us fat should actually read the men who made themselves fat. People don't get fat overnight. They get fat over a long period of time. Clothes stop fitting. They look different to photos of themselves 2 years ago. There are a lot of obvious clues, just no willpower to do anything about it.
Some people are fat for other reasons (apparently, don't know what they are though unless the body makes calories out of thin air). Most aren't.
I'll give a sedentary lifestyle and laziness as a starter. Still down to the persons choice.
+1. It's a bit of a hackneyed soundbite, but "not all fats are bad" (olive oil and other unsaturated vegetable fats, fish oils etc.).
David
From that article I posted:
Here's the study.
http://www.earlybirddiabetes.org/about.php
The main cause is always a mix of two. Overactive knife and fork and sitting on your censored - Lack of education
edit: Neither sugar or fat are directly to blame they're easy targets.
Mental issues
Social issues
Economic issues.
They all tie in together really though.
Where would Eric Pickles fit in this? Poorly educated? Mental? Broken Family? Poor?
Personally, I just think he loves cake and can't say no to a big fat slice of cake.
Perhaps he over eats because he's depressed about being a fat tory?
Fats and Sugars yield more energy in the first place and the body finds it easier to assimulate and store them if they arent depleted than other nutrients .
We all have a varying basal metabollic rate, once you get 35+ this decreases by approx 5% every year or so and your are less likely at 35+ to be partaking in regular exercise or sport than someone below 35 so its a double whammy.
The other massive problem with these foods group ( because in moderation they are essiential) is that post 35 they will also lead to you having more of a predispositon to Diabetes and Heart disease.
I ve just come back from a Holiday in Sicily, the food was excellent. Fresh Pasta and Seafood, and the supermarkets were stacked with fresh produce which would have never made it onto the shelfs here because it wasnt a perfect shape or size .
Half of the additives are not just for taste, but in processed foods they are there to achieve maximum shelf life.
I always try to eat things which are as close to their natrual state as possible, whenever possible.
Saying that though there where some big fat mammas in Sicily and they all smoked like chimneys.
Chapeau!
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She even said that because McDonalds, Mars and Cadburys are sponsoring the 2012 Olympics that most of us assume that they must be healthy .. *bertstare*
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