Radioshack tour short list

cycling5280

Rick Chasey wrote:

Back problem is a problem - and Horner will crash anyway, so it seems a wasted seat with him in it.

I'd imagine Horner wouldn't do domestique duties either. Having two to look after is enough.

So who has the wasted seat?

yourpaceormine

Ned. Boulting as tweeted a link tonight suggesting the team's participation at le Tour is now uncertain due to all this Lance et al business

cycling5280

The team is done. Radioshack fired their top marketing folks back in March for sponsoring a pro cycling team. No sponsor renewal there and we all know Leopard whatever can't attract any sponsors when the Schlecks were good and now they suck. Frank is going to quit half way through the Tour because he misses his brother and he's not getting paid. Cancellara is going just to talk to other teams. Horner is not even there. No one is going to have a chance at a stage win because Johan still believes they can win the overall.

dave_1

Bruyneel will stay away and members named, but I am sure ASO will not punish Schlek, Cancellera, others for something they couldn't possibly be involved in.

inkyfingers

Dave_1 wrote:

Bruyneel will stay away and members named, but I am sure ASO will not punish Schlek, Cancellera, others for something they may not be involved in.

Fixed that for you. This is pro cycling, it doesn't pay to make absolute statements.

dougzz

inkyfingers wrote:

Dave_1 wrote:

Bruyneel will stay away and members named, but I am sure ASO will not punish Schlek, Cancellera, others for something they may not be involved in.

Fixed that for you. This is pro cycling, it (probably) doesn't pay to make absolute statements.

dave_1

inkyfingers wrote:

Dave_1 wrote:

Bruyneel will stay away and members named, but I am sure ASO will not punish Schlek, Cancellera, others for something they may not be involved in.

Fixed that for you . This is pro cycling, it doesn't pay to make absolute statements.

forum etiquette is we reply to people but not change what they said. Show some respect pls

inkyfingers

Dave_1 wrote:

inkyfingers wrote:

Dave_1 wrote:

Bruyneel will stay away and members named, but I am sure ASO will not punish Schlek, Cancellera, others for something they may not be involved in.

Fixed that for you . This is pro cycling, it doesn't pay to make absolute statements.

forum etiquette is we reply to people but not change what they said. Show some respect pls

Oh come on, I made it clear that i'd changed what you'd written. I wasn't trying to be misleading, I wasn't even trying to be serious. Probably should have added a smilie, but I try not to use too many of them or posts start to look like they were made like a 12 year old.

dave_1

inkyfingers wrote:

Dave_1 wrote:

inkyfingers wrote:

Dave_1 wrote:

Bruyneel will stay away and members named, but I am sure ASO will not punish Schlek, Cancellera, others for something they may not be involved in.

Fixed that for you . This is pro cycling, it doesn't pay to make absolute statements.

forum etiquette is we reply to people but not change what they said. Show some respect pls

Oh come on, I made it clear that i'd changed what you'd written. I wasn't trying to be misleading, I wasn't even trying to be serious. Probably should have added a smilie, but I try not to use too many of them or posts start to look like they were made like a 12 year old.

fair enough, but some threads get very long with multiple pages so if we change people's words and it gets quoted over and over, it might not be what the original poster meant if the "fixed that for you part" is deleted from quotes.
re the topic, i am not for a moment suggesting Schlek, Klodi, Cancellara have not doped in the past but they were not in Armstrong and Bruyneels team, entourages in the years 1999-2005, so just kinda meant that really..Cancellara would be missed at TDF and he hasn't really done anything wrong in his career yet I think

Jez mon

Cancellara has worked with Cecchini IIRC

Noclue

Jeez, seems like the team is tearing itself apart at the moment, whilst i'm not a huge fan of the Schleks i think the tour would be better with them (well Frank seeing as Andy is out) but at the moment all i can see happening, if the shack do keep their invite, is all their riders will be trying to do deals with other teams to try and secure a contract for next year and they won't get a stage win or podium place.

inkyfingers

Noclue wrote:

Jeez, seems like the team is tearing itself apart at the moment, whilst i'm not a huge fan of the Schleks i think the tour would be better with them (well Frank seeing as Andy is out) but at the moment all i can see happening, if the shack do keep their invite, is all their riders will be trying to do deals with other teams to try and secure a contract for next year and they won't get a stage win or podium place.

Wouldn't that make them more likely to want to ride well and increase their value? Albeit probably not with a great deal of "teamwork".

frenchfighter

Horner is now riding the Tour.

Others:
Fabian Cancellara, Tony Gallopin, Andreas Klöden, Maxime Monfort, Yaroslav Popovych, Fränk Schleck, Jens Voigt and Haimar Zubeldia.

rick_chasey

Glad at least Canellara's riding.

No Boonen, Andy OR Cancellara would be a disaster.

frenchfighter

Well Fabu was the only one 100% guaranteed. You are right though, unless you have Jens lighting up the breakaways.

timoid.

frenchfighter wrote:

Well Fabu was the only one 100% guaranteed. You are right though, unless you have Jens lighting up the breakaways.

Reckon he can still do that at what 40? I hope so, but I doubt it.

frenchfighter

I think it was Romandie this year but he was absolutely tearing it up with LLS. Something great. Defo harder for him but he has the desire:

And if somebody would come up to me and ask, “Hey, Jens. Feel like going into the break today?” Well, you know the answer I’ll give.

“Does a bear shit in the woods?”

sonny73

Fuglsang reacts to not being selected: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12155 ... squad.aspx

“It does not take a genius to see that the team is not running as it should.”

TMR

cycling5280 wrote:

Frank is going to quit half way through the Tour because he misses his brother and he's not getting paid.

If I were Frank I wouldn't start the Tour if I weren't being paid. He's not riding for fun.

lostboysaint

Sonny73 wrote:

Fuglsang reacts to not being selected: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12155 ... squad.aspx

“It does not take a genius to see that the team is not running as it should.”

So Trek are picking the team (see the last paragraph!)

frenchfighter

Im not sure why these riders think they have a right to be at the Tour.

They should try and win some other races or at least perform in them.

A team is 30 odd riders, so 2/3 are going to miss out, simple.

frenchfighter

Fugslang palmares for 2012:

4 Trofeo Deia. Counts for nothing.
14 Tour of Oman. Counts for nothing.
1 Tour of Lux. Doesnt count for much.
25 TdS. This was your chance to shine a short period before the Tour in company of your competitors but you came 25th.

...

andyp

He worked very hard for Frank Schleck in Switzerland.

You really don't understand some aspects of this sport do you?

ddraver

frenchfighter wrote:

Fugslang palmares for 2012:

4 Trofeo Deia. Counts for nothing.
14 Tour of Oman. Counts for nothing.
1 Tour of Lux. Doesnt count for much.
25 TdS. This was your chance to shine a short period before the Tour in company of your competitors but you came 25th.

...

Still second best of RSNT though...

afx237vi

The only thing I ever remember Fuglsang doing in a GT is crashing into a parked lorry in the Vuelta. I'm not sure you could point at any of the 9 other riders RS picked and say he deserves a place more than they do. Maybe Monfort. They're both about equal in terms of over-ratedness.

TMR

afx237vi wrote:

Maybe Monfort. They're both about equal in terms of over-ratedness.

Except Monfort featured in 'Chasing Legends', therefore he is superior!

frenchfighter

andyp wrote:

He worked very hard for Frank Schleck in Switzerland.

You really don't understand some aspects of this sport do you?

Obv you need domestiques and obv some people have no palmares but are super high in demand.

Fug is prolly paid a decent salary and isnt employed as a domestique. During a Dauphine a cpl yrs back he was touted as being a super talent.

Dont get me wrong - he is a good rider and has a decent palmares over the years.

frenchfighter

Ps. I have no photos of Fug. That isnt a good sign.

EDIT:


Id take him over some of the names on that list tho.

edhornby

Tony Gallopin has been picked by the DS' of whom one is Alain Gallopin......

inkyfingers

Lots of people on twitter banging on about RSNT's treatment poor old Fuglsang when in actual fact they had already given him the team leaders role for the Giro only for him to get injured and have to miss it. Looking at his career to date it's questionable what exactly he's done to deserve much more than a place as a useful domestique in a GT.

Lots of people letting their (understandable) objections to RSNT cloud their judgement.